Wednesday, June 01, 2016

WHY Are Greece FD's Dispatching Calls?

Isn't this WHY we pay for 911 services?
Time to eliminate this job at RRFD, too.

Anonymous TAXPAYER said...
At 0757 this morning North Greece Fire Department made its last radio dispatch transmission from NG Fire Headquarters at Latta and Mt Reid.
This action transferred all Fire Dispatch for N Greece to 911 Center.

The media release says the Comissioners did this to save spending $100,000 on new computer and radio equipment. It does not mention any salary saving for Dispatchers who will no longer be needed at N Greece FD. That salary saving should be considerable since NGFD will no longer be dispatching for NGFD, Barnard FD, Lakeshore FD and GVA.

Lets not even talk about how much money was spent by NGFD buying expensive radio and computer equipment over the last 5 to 10 years during which the Dispatch function could have been served by 911 Center.

How much will North Greece Fire Taxes go down?
NOT 1 damn cent is my bet.     6/01/2016 3:12 PM


Anonymous said...

Other reports today indicate elimination of dispatchers at N Greece will save the Department $600,000 per year on employees eliminated.

Gee, a real Vol Fire Department, like Hamlin, Morton, Walker could buy 2 possibly 3 Pumpers for $600,000. At least 2 Fire trucks and a new clam truck.

They wouldn't even need the trucks built by RD Murray or sold by Churchville Fire Equipment either. Not even a fancy pinwheel LED light on the grill.

Oh wait, Hamlin, Morton, Walker doesn't have IAFF Members on staff.

Anonymous said...

another useless,worthless,meaningless, derogatory ,uniformed comment posted by Scats.

Anonymous said...

RRFD hasent had their own Dispatchers in about 8 years.

Anonymous said...

There are several good reasons why they didn't hand over that important function to the county 10 or yrs ago. One very important one in particular dealing public safety and saving lives and property . See if you can name that one. It s really not that hard as it was reported several times by the media.

SCATS said...

To 9:09AM ~~ I'm sorry you feel so poorly about what you wrote. Next time, try holding your tongue (pen).

To 12:06PM ~~ I saw one on duty shortly after Hurricane Sandy struck. That was just 4 yrs. ago.

To 1:17PM ~~ What do you mean by " See if you can name that one."?? I thought the PURPOSE of 911 services was "to save lives & property." Believe it or not, Greece doesn't have a corner on that activity. Try watching the news.

Anonymous said...

True but in the past it didn't always work that way. I did read the news back then when serious mistakes were made that put lives in danger.Your supposed to have a sharp memory if you read the news prior to starting your site you would remember them. And those were the only ones made public and reported in the press at that time.

Anonymous said...

RRFD turned over their dispatching the 911 center sometime prior to June of 2010

SCATS said...

To 2:58PM ~~ By all means, please refresh our memories with a few examples. I have no idea what direction you are talking about.

To 3:47PM ~~ Then please tell me WHO was the guy in the blue FD shirt sitting at an elevated "desk" (or counter) surrounded by radio equipment?? WHAT was his position at RRFD?

Anonymous said...

He's a radio dispatcher. I think you will find that all departments served by 911 still maintain a local radio dispatcher to communicate directly with on scene personel. Much more efficient then tying up 911 operators with relaying on scene information back to HQ. And visa versa.The GPD has a dispatcher on duty from 9-5 weekdays for the same purpose. This person also serves as the front desk operator and takes calls for various functions in the PD .they have the ability to contact cars on a separate frequency for other purposes .

Anonymous said...

Could of been anyone of the on duty firefighters working whatever day you apparently saw a guy in a blue Uniform shirt sitting at an elevated desk surrounded by radio equipment

SCATS said...

To 5:42PM ~~ TY for giving us just another glimpse at why NY State's taxes ARE TOPS in the US.

To 6:25PM ~~ You get an F for that meaningless response.

Anonymous said...

From 6:25pm. Not sure any other way to answer your question. RRFD no longer has a dispatcher. All of the jobs are dispatched from the 911 center. The firefighters in the station are able to listen to the radio's but there is no communication from the fire station to the trucks on the road. I hope that I have dumbed it down enough that even you can understand.

SCATS said...

To 8:01PM ~~ Now let me dumb it down for you. The person I saw sitting there WAS WORKING THE EQUIPMENT, not eating lunch.

Anonymous said...

5:42 not sure where you got that information but you are completely wrong about GPD having a dispatcher. They haven't had those in about 20 years. They do have a front desk officer for people who walk in to make a report. There is no other frequency the front desk person would use to contact cars. Simple there for taking reports during business hours.

Anonymous said...

8:01. Yes, it's true all fire, ambulance and police calls are dispatched by 911. However your assertion that the bases of those departments have no way of communicating with their on scene equipment is incorrect .What would be the point of just listening to chatter by on scene personnel? Hell, I do that all the time with my own scanner.
There's a good reason for the ability to communicate with them.The 911 operators are for emergency calls and not miscellaneous requests for information, notifications, etc, requested by on scene personnel relative to the job.

SCATS said...

It appears that many of you "experts" don't have a clue either LOL

Anonymous said...

Wrong GPD does maintain limited radio contact with their cars. Not dispatchers at the reception area.

Anonymous said...

3:20 sorry but there is no officer in the reception area anymore. There is a radio there but it's not used as a dispatcher would use one and is pretty much just there to listen to. Your terminology of limited radio contact is odd I've only heard that term used in military when radio silence is being used. So not sure what you mean by it.

SCATS said...

To 8:57AM ~~ BIGGER PICTURE: Taxpayers footed the bill for a duplication of services in Greece!

Anonymous said...

Get ready IAFF Members, it's happening downstate.
Your greed is pissing people off here, the "elected Comissioners" may not be able to keep protecting those jobs you love.


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