Friday, March 04, 2016

Neighbors Prefer Vacant Church To Charter School


WHEC-TV reports that Terra Science & Education, a Syracuse-based foundation, plans to buy part of the old Mother of Sorrows property in Greece and rent it to Rochester Academy Charter School.

The Greece Town Board approved a special-use permit for the property to turn the old church into a gymnasium.

SCATS ~~ What is the sudden attraction causing city charter schools to land in Greece? Is this trend favorable to the community?


27 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is not a RCSD school. Because it is a charter school, you do not have to live in the district to attend. The only residency requirement is to live in New York State.

Anonymous said...

It's prime real estate and very attractive to city parents who want to get their kids out of the ghetto. They think by uprooting them to the "burbs" it changes them. Newsflash....most of the time it doesn't. We don't need another city charter school!

Anonymous said...

It's prime real estate here in Greece. Parents in the city want to get their kids out of the ghetto. The city schools aren't successful so they are trying anything for their kids. However the reason they aren't successful most of the time are the parents aren't stepping up and making their kids go to school. City parents want out of the ghetto so why not go to the "Burbs"? We don't need any more city element than we already have in Greece. We don't need another charter school either!

SCATS said...

To 11:55AM ~~ Show me WHERE we stated anything at all about RCSD??? I know. You can't!

To 1:15PM ~~ Re: "Prime real estate" ... the end-users will be leasing it.

Anonymous said...

Disgusting racists comments fro m 2 out of 3 so far. Besides where did you get the notion that Greece is not a GHETTO.? If it was prime realestate ,it would have sold long ago.Given the lay of the land there, if you were a developer, what possible value would you place on that property to make a buck.

Anonymous said...

Whould the neighbors rather the old church/library and old school remain vacant. We know the real reason....they don't want the city element in their neighborhood. This plan would be an improvement to the site.

Anonymous said...

Charter schools must be viewed with caution, While some maybe good there are many that are poorly run have unqualified teachers, poor curriculum and don't deliver the results claimed. Over time there have been a lot of examples of charter failures or of cherry picking students and leaving the rest behind. I don't know whether the action of neighbors are based on racism or reasonable concerns but charters are often not a good deal.

SCATS said...

To 2:36PM ~~ Racist comments?? WHERE??? Calling a ghetto a ghetto is not racist. It's living in reality! BTW, one definition of ghetto is: "the poorest part of a city."

To 2:47PM ~~ Methinks you are correct! I make that ascertion based upon the fact that a school formerly operated on the MOS's site. God forbid should anyone have to hear the voices of children!

Anonymous said...

One positive fact about charter schools and consistent with the views of this site, teachers unions do not exist in these schools.

Anonymous said...

What the hell happened to Wegmans buying the Church to turn it into a storage locker for ashes of dead people? That deal was supposedly complete and approved.

Come to think, 710 Latta Road, also owned by that group of Wegmans is for sale after they restored the place and turned it into offices. The Hardware Store they opened in Hilton is closed too and back for rent.

Something odd is going on.

Anonymous said...

One neighbor commented on Channel 10 that this project should not happen and the old church should be saved because it "belongs to the community". No it does not, it is owned by the MOS parish who can not afford to keep it up. Turning an old unused library into a gymnasium would save the the building rather than leaving it to rot doing nothing. I do understand that there are good and bad charter schools but turning an empty school into a charter school should not be an issue to the neighbors.

Anonymous said...

SCATs c'mon how would you interpret " we don't need any more city elements in Greece than we already have". Also your interpretation of Ghetto would apply to significant areas of Greece right now. .i know it . You know it. And certainly those who live there know it.

SCATS said...

To 6:01PM ~~ There are lots of ways to interpret that! It doesn't have to be related to skin color or ethnicity.

SCATS said...

To 5:50PM ~~ Wegmans?? News to us! WHEN did that deal get done??

Anonymous said...

To 5:50 The State nixed the idea of a columburiam. The State would not approve a private corporation operating one.

Anonymous said...

I know if my kids weren't grown, I'd be sending them to a charter school or other private school alternative. Greece schools are not what they used to be. That old tired line from Greece about "student learning is the goal" is a load of BS!

Anonymous said...

Sep 2013 D&C article about it.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/lifestyle/2013/09/06/our-mother-of-sorrows-in-greece-is-like-a-beacon/2750339/

It ain't the Grocery Wegmans, cousins of the grocers.
They are the same group that bought the old Thayer house & barn at Latta & Greenleaf and rehabbed it. http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/18518613/710-Latta-Rd-Rochester-NY/

Also have a Hardware store in Hamlin & a condo development over by Olcott.

SCATS said...

To 7:08PM ~~ That slogan is ridiculous!

To 6:51PM & 9:12PM ~~ TY. I hadn't heard about that.

Anonymous said...

"Student learning is the goal" is the dumbest slogan I have ever heard....Learning IS the purpose of a school. It's like saying General Motors, making cars is the goal"

SCATS said...

To 10:41PM ~~ What do expect from a group of "educators"?? Worse yet, that slogan was kept AFTER they rewrote the strategic framework!

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any information about the group that is running this charter? I have never heard of them. What is their outlook and their aim, Since charters are run independent of any local school boards I would like to know about any group who opens a charter here and what control citizens have over their agendas

Anonymous said...

If you are interested in an article criticizing the Discovery Charter School operating out of Hoover Drive read this http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/01/24/charter-school-money-encompass-discovery-contracts/73849832/

SCATS said...

To 8:03AM ~~ We're working on that currently ... COMING SOON!

To 11:57AM ~~ TY, very interesting article, but it appears to have little if anything to do with the players involved at the Paddy Hill property.

YOU WILL BE SURPRISED.

Anonymous said...

Scats RE 11:57 has to do with the way charters are stealing taxpayers money and enriching themselves. We need to have a serious discussion about charter schools

Anonymous said...

They currently operate a charter school in the city and have outgrown the space. One thing I like is they wear uniforms which in it self is a certain level of discipline. Not who has the best designer clothes on!

SCATS said...

To 1:56PM ~~ I'm sure there are a few good things about them. However, you might want to read the new BLOG we posted today about who is BEHIND THE CURTAIN of the RACS as well as the D&C article linked by 11:57AM about the Discovery School on Hoover Dr. There's much more to these stories, not the least of which is how the taxpayers end up footing overpriced leasing agreements for underperforming schools that lack oversight of all sorts.

SCATS said...

For ALL interested parties: Here is the link to the Planning Board's meeting minutes about Terra Science's application/request: http://www.greeceny.gov/files/Planning_/Minutes_03-2-2016.pdf