Friday, February 19, 2016

Reilich Tackles Zombie Homes




13WHAM reports: Proposes amendment to require any bank or lender foreclosing on a property in the Town of Greece to give immediate notice and provide a cash bond of $10,000 minimum. This will secure the continued maintenance and safety of the property.
Failure to comply with the proposed amendment would be punishable by a fine of $5,000.
Reilich said the newly proposed amendment would effectively be the strongest effort by a local municipality in Monroe County to combat the problems associated with vacant structures or zombie properties.
SCATS ~~ How widespread is this problem in Greece? 
PLEASE, TELL US if there is a zombie home near you! Provide the address and we can compile a list to get a handle on the issue.
   
According to Ch. 8 news: Greece has 170 foreclosed homes and another 92 facing foreclosure.

85 comments:

Anonymous said...

SCATS WHATS YOUR ADDRESS?

SCATS said...

To 2:15PM ~~ You KNOW I live next door to you ;)

Anonymous said...

Not sure if that is even legal? Why not pass a law saying banks can't foreclose at all in the town so we can all stop paying our mortgages. Also how is he going to decide what maintenace is needed inside of a private house and what security? Sounds nice as a headline but how will it work.

SCATS said...

To 2:25PM ~~ This is closed, clubby & corrupted Greece politics. Since when do we let laws, rules, policies to get in our way?

Charlie Hubbard said...

I applaud Mr. Reilich for trying to address this item. As we all know 'you can't 'fix' a problem until you first admit there 'is' a problem. The solution may not be perfect (need to learn more) but at least Mr. Reilich is trying. Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

I agree lets poop on this and not give it a chance. Do nothing and we will criticize you. Do something and we know it will fail before it's enacted. So we'll criticize it too. We won't let anything that happens in town hall be good. I hate this town and want it to be no good so I can be right. Or left, I mean right, no no I can never be right I mean wrong, oh never mind this town sucks!

SCATS said...

To 4:16PM ~~ Who peed on your Wheaties? I see no criticism, unless asking questions is your slanted definition of criticism. That's OK though. I'll let you go ahead and twist words into some. Then you'll feel better!

PS ~~ It's about time this problem get dealt with, here & elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I for one see very little I like about this administration BUT I do think this is a good thing....Lets give it a chance!

Anonymous said...

Why bother unless it's to create a new job for one of the King's faithful or the Tax Collector's kids?

The Town is well aware of a former Use Exception Permit property presently owned by an unregistered absentee landlord who added a bathroom without Permit, and rented the property to a new business without any of the required Hearings. WHO is getting paid off on that?

Bankers end run laws all day long on foreclosures, they'll just ignore this crapola.

The King is just diverting attention from one of his failures.

SCATS said...

We've decided we will just collect addresses instead of posting them. So if you want to share the address of a zombie home in your area, no need to worry that we'll be calling attention to it. Please keep that info separate from other comments you wish to see posted.

Anonymous said...

Does Greece have a PROBLEM with vacant homes? Town hasn’t said there’s PROBLEM. Is it PUBLIC HEALTH problem? Is it PUBLIC SAFETY problem? What is the PROBLEM? By what law does Greece have jurisdiction? Quoting two numbers (170 and 92) on tv doesn’t a problem make.

Anonymous said...

Who owns the homes? Owners should be responsible, not banks. Sounds like Bernie Sanders has come to Greece!

Anonymous said...

That feeling of power and the smell of money is irresistible for some politicians!

Anonymous said...

Do you have a P.O. Box?

SCATS said...

To 11:03PM ~~ Reilich is saying it's a problem through his actions & statements.

To 11:26PM ~~ You have a point! It seems like there's NO personal accountability any more.

To 1:41AM ~~ You can post it in a comment as others have. We're making a list on the side.

Anonymous said...

D&C/McDermott says public hearing March 15th. When will public see proposed rules?

Anonymous said...

Reilich says we’ve been working on this since I took office. Hmm, right behind coffee bar in library, pickle ball courts, pavilion, splash park, 2,000 ft water slide etc. Nice to know it’s has been so high on Greece priorities for 2 yrs!

Anonymous said...

Another missed opportunity for Greece Democrats.

Anonymous said...

“It is our commitment in fostering continued pride in our community and our neighborhoods that we are taking an aggressive approach in dealing with these vacant and abandoned properties”, so says Supervisor Reilich on WHAM.

So in 25 months with an AGGRESSIVE approach, Reilich has taken a count – 170 foreclosed and 92 facing foreclosure. At this rate, he can use this issue for re-election to a second term! And a third!

Anonymous said...

Welcome to step #1 toward ASSESSMENT enforcement. It used to be if you didn’t cut your grass, the Town could cut the grass and add it to your tax bill. Soon, if you don’t keep you home up to your ASSESSMENT, they’re gonna come in and make improvements… then charge you for the work.

It’s only in fairness to your neighbors that this is done. Yep, and of course the supervisor can brag at election time about keeping the tax rate low.

SCATS said...

To 8:11AM ~~ Try FOILing them, but don't hold your breath!

To 8:39PM ~~ Well, in his defense, he had to make Greece "great again" first ;)

To 8:43AM ~~ Are there ANY left??

To 11:04AM ~~ He used his fingers AND his toes!

To 11:29AM ~~ I'm not seeing them do any maintenance on the zombie properties near me. Shouldn't they be??

SCATS said...

Reilich admits that zombie homes impact all others in the neighborhood: "If approved, Greece's regulations would take effect immediately and would apply even to homes already sitting vacant. Reilich said the town has identified at least 170 homes in foreclosure within the town and it knows at least 90 of those are unoccupied.

"It may be a small percentage of the parcels in town — we have 33,000 parcels — but if you live next door to one of these or have one in your neighborhood, you know it affects all of the homes in your neighborhood," he said.


SCATS said...

Keep that quote handy for the next round of reassessments. You'll be needing it!

george hubbard said...

To: SCATS,

1. McDermott/D&C reports Greece will hold public hearing Mar 15.

2. Ques: Wouldn’t hearing be more efficient/effective if Town Board presented/handed out, in addition to description of proposed “Foreclosure Maintenance Bond” (FMB) approach, a summary also of alternatives that were considered and passed over in preference for FMB... and reasons why?

3. Public likely can not offer objective opinion on individual BEST approach (all by itself) to reduce zombie houses, but can offer opinion on which approach is comparatively BETTER among two or three.

Comments invited.

Geo H.

Anonymous said...

Greece is GRATE again!

It's been GRATING on my ass since King Willie got elected.

PLEASE Democraps, FIND A CANDIDATE!
Run a friggin campaign against Bill Roadblock.

Qualifications for a Dem Candidate would include
Breathing
Moving
Able to LISTEN & HEAR
Alert & Oriented
SOBER
Not another Union stooge from a defunct Union
Not washed up


Oh crap, we're stuck with Roadblock forever.

SCATS said...

To George H. ~~ Of course, almost any other process would be better! While Reilich claims he's been working on this, it's the first we've heard a word about it. It's a continuation of the CLOSED, CLUBBY & CORRUPT GOVT GREECE HAS BECOME COMPLACENT ABOUT.

Anonymous said...

George H what is your best solution? What are your three ideas please share.

Anonymous said...

Upon closer inspection you will find most of these properties fall into three ownership categories. Banks who hold the paper, realestate
Companies who bought the properties, absentee owners as investments in rental properties or house flipping..the rest of them are estate
Properties or properties owned by the Federal Government through Medicare reimbursement for owners in nursing facilities
I will be interested in seeing the town get engaged with the Feds, the big banks and politically active local realestate firms enforcing any new regulations. As it is if they enforced the current property maintenence codes, this action would not be necessary. Another bit of grandstanding on the part of Reilich Nothing more than peeing on the problem until the heat is off.

Anonymous said...

once foreclosed the houses belong to the banks unless they are auctioned off, One of the problems stems from the fact that the banks think it is cheaper to leave the house empty then to put money in to get it to code or just don't think houses will sell for enough. The time to intervene with the owners is before foreclosure and to see if there is a way to help them hold on to their houses or help them repair them.

Anonymous said...

What exactly is "corrupt" and "closed" about the current Greece government?

Anonymous said...

If Town can already cut grass/trim shrubs and add charges to town tax bill, why is amendment for Foreclosure Maintenance Bond necessary?

Anonymous said...

SCATS 3:50pm You're getting close... oh so close... CORRUPT GOVT GREECE like you can’t imagine.

Notice what has been said... and what has not been said. What Mr. Reilich has said is all about problems (implied cost impact) for neighbors/neighborhoods. He never mentions cost impact for TOG (Town of Greece). And he won’t because TOG makes money on zombie homes! When addresses become public, it will be clear.

Stay tuned.

SCATS said...

To 6:55 & 9:02PM ~~ I agree they OUGHT TO BE ENFORCING CURRENT CODE. It kinda makes me wonder WHAT THE HELL the code is for, if not enforced in these situations!

To 9:02PM ~~ Name three things that aren't. It was closed under Auberger, but at least the Town site had some useful meeting & other info on it. That's ALL been scrubbed clean. Clubby because they are ALL "yea" men. Corrupt, because much of what is acted upon is discussed with no outsiders present. Pretty much like the BOE ;)

To 10:11PM ~~ I suggest people cut out the article from today's D&C and save it for evidence when they go to fight their assessment next time. I bet if you go all the way to small claims court, the judge will listen intently as you read Reilich's quote.

Anonymous said...

To: 9:02pm ~~ TOG quietly profits from zombie homes while superisor rails against zombie homes. That’s morally/ethically corrupt.

Anonymous said...

To: 9:02pm Issued bonds to finance new police headquarters without public vote. Not even GCSD does that!

Anonymous said...

I don't need to name anything. I'm not making accusations of nefarious conduct. I looked at the website. While I think it can be improved in appearance and organization, I was able to locate essential information. What was it you weren't able to find? Did you contact the town to ask for it or request it be included? Not everything can be included on a website because of storage and practical

Clubby? As best I can tell, what you are saying is that the Supervisor surrounds himself with people that are in complete agreement with him or he places only men in positions of authority. The latter isn't true given the Deputy Supervisor is a woman and I think at least one department head is a woman, as well. I'm just not sure what you mean by "clubby" and what you view as the consequences of that social orientation (if it exists at all).

Finally, "corruption" is not a characteristic of what you see as "closed door" decision making sessions. Does every decision made in a workplace include the participation of all the workers? Also, what decisions are being made in this vacuum that you think are missing from the detailed Town Board minutes/agendas?

I just hear you make these reckless accusations without providing ANY concrete examples or facts to substantiate them or persuade the reader to take them seriously. It just seems you really don't like living here. There are alternatives for you.

Anonymous said...

This will only be enforced in specific zip codes, just like the rental property registry.

Anonymous said...

On another note, Lovely Val is featured in a local magazine. No where in it does she mention her master's degree. LOL.

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george hubbard said...

9:02pm
1. I tried to make political contribution to my councilman’s campaign for 2013 election.

2. He could not accept check made to him... it had to be made to Monroe County Repub Committee... supervisor and 4 council people all running as a group.

3. When I can’t contribute to local candidate running to represent me, but have to contribute to 3 other candidates who won’t represent me, that’s closed. Too closed!

Geo. Hubbard

Anonymous said...

8:39am I agree many positive things have been done in this town over two years. I did not vote for him but I will in the future.

Anonymous said...

9:02pm__Greece - too much about what’s good for PARTY… too little about what’s good for PEOPLE!

SCATS said...

To 9:16AM ~~ Is there evidence that happened? It sounds illegal.

To 9:49AM ~~ YOUR COMMENT WASN'T POSTED! If you can't get "SCATS" correctly spelled, then you don't deserve to be heard regarding code enforcement.

To 10:39AM ~~ LMAO! Congratulations! You've obviously drunk the Kool-Aid - there is NO CURE! The town website had MUCH more info BEFORE its recent makeover!

Just as an FYI ~ The Town Govt was previously tagged as "CLOSED, CLUBBY & CORRUPT" by a D&C editorial when Auggie ruled. I've seen NOTHING but actions that make it even more so.

To 10:43AM ~~ Would any of us really be surprised??

To George H ~~ OMG! That's ridiculous!!! I wonder if that's legal?? Did you inquire?

To 12:38PM ~~ Will you pay my over-inflated property tax bill?

To 12:47PM ~~ BINGO!!

Anonymous said...

To: 8:39 Please name some of those positive things and who is going to pay for their upkeep in years to come. Remember "always look behind the curtain"

SCATS said...

BLOG Admin. has deleted & reposted the following comment with the exact street address removed.

Anonymous said...
He is full of BS..... Don't look the other way Reilich, the poster child for a Zombie property is #xxxx Latta Rd (corner of Latta and North Greece), right across the street from Antelli's property! It has been boarded-up, rat infested and abandoned for at least 20 or more years! What a piece of crap and a hell of an eyesore! it is over 9500 sq/ft. In what decade is the town going to move forward to force rehabilitating the building or tear the damn thing down! Worse part is that the town still has this deprecate building assessed for over $200K while the shinny brick firehouse/auto repair station across the street is assessed for $130K.

Why doesn't Reilich put as much emphasis on attacking our "Zombie" property tax rates? He is full of BS.... How in the world is he going to monitor interior and exterior deterioration without trespassing or breaking and entering?

To SCATS: I've tried using property condition as part of contesting my unjustified over-assessment and they keep saying they do not use property condition in their assessment models. They say this because they have no way to determine condition and expose them to the reality that they cannot determine a fair market value assessment for any home, period!

2/21/2016 11:01 AM

SCATS said...

To 1:05PM ~~ I think you meant to 10:39AM. I'll bet you my catnip mouse you won't get a response ;)

Unofficial NonSpokesman said...

The Hotel DeMay at N Greece & Latta was PARALIZED as a favor to an unnamed local Politician when he wasn't able to buy it and profit after Ma Demay died and the hotel was sold by her estate. The Politician knew Hess wanted the location, so it was blocked and will remain blocked until hell freezes or the right owner buys it.

Similar situation at the NW corner of Latta & Flynn which was Hess's second choice location. You want gas in NG you have exactly 1 place to pick from.

When a complaint is called in about building or property condition you get the canned "Unless we can see it from the street" crap. Oddly the same people who can't see beyond the car window to enforce code can and do use satellite pics to assess property values. 30 years ago the Town paid for an airplane to fly & photograph. Today they use satellite pics to find the porch you added or shed you put up without a Permit.

http://www.maplandia.com/united-states/new-york/monroe-county/island-cottage-beach/
Center it on any property and zoom in. The Town has better resolution but you can see 1 meter for free thanks to google.
Better not look though, politicians don't want you to know what they can see.

Anonymous said...


CLUBBY because all town council members are beholding to Boss Bill for their full time republican appointed jobs. Town lawyer is also boss at County Leg, old receiver of taxes is now in Leg. and old Leg member is now Receiver of Taxes, DPW chief was promoted from town council and Bill is in charge of local and state Repubs.
CLOSED because spray park, pavilion, pickle ball courts, ice rink with lights, electronic sign. GPD Hq, coffee shop, move of historian's office and new park pavilion were all decided with no prior public input, not even neighbors were informed. At least the coffee shop idea died a quite death. And info has been removed from Town web site ( I will admit there are no reporters working for the papers anymore which Bill must love). Only information in Greece Post or D&C is from Town press releases.
CORRUPT Can't say much about corrupt 'cause second floor is restricted to invite only , but if it smells like a duck...........

Anonymous said...

The contribution comments by GH are perfectly legal The local Republicans have always used a PAC to finance campaigns for their candidates. It has to do with the reporting regulations required by State and Federal laws. When you contribute to a PAC, they are not required to disclose your identity or amount of your contribution. They in turn can divide the PAC monies among the candidates without the disclosure of amount each received. Done the way George tried to do it, the benefactor must be identified as well as the donor and amount on the individule candidates required reporting schedule of funds raised during his campaign. So s a result there is less reporting required by establishment of. Political Action Committee or PAC. This of course has many more benefits and implication regarding the electoral process in as much that the PAC administrator can direct funds to candidates facing a greater challenge than others he considers having a safe position.

Anonymous said...

This is 9:16am with clarification.
Posting should have read, “Issued bonds to finance new police headquarters without VOTE BY PUBLIC.” $13M Police HQ is a capital expenditure.

SCATS said...

To 1:46PM ~~ TY for the interesting link! You are correct about complaining, although they MIGHT ask if they can walk onto your property to view the neighbor's, if that's what your complaint is about. The few times I've ever called code enforcement, it would have been easier pulling teeth from a rhino. Even after they came out to look, they argued ... "Ive seen worse ... that's not so bad ... " etc. etc. etc.

To 2:05PM ~~ Not to mention that they must ALL vote the same way with NO public discussion.

To 2:16PM ~~ I looked up the law as well. You are correct. I think it's time to make this a campaign issue. If I want to support ONE person and not the entire slate, then maybe more of us should withhold funding ANY of them. This fits right in with the CLOSED, CLUBBY & CORRUPT theme, too.

To 3:13PM ~~ TY.

Anonymous said...

TO 1:46: Towns and County have access to Pictomertry. Much better than any Google map. They can measure the size of your patio and even the height of a fence and they can overlay property lines and utilities. Lots of cool stuff most of us don't know about.

SCATS said...

To 5:43PM ~~ Will drones be next?

Anonymous said...

2:16pm I am not aware of one PAC that is used locally by County or town candidates. If you know of one please share.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Greece assessor's must be sleeping at the wheel because I know of dozens of properties with structures, even two story garages that do not appear on taxable tax records! I can prove this with black and white facts. One thing for certain, at least for now is that cannot assess the interior of your home, if you have gold plated fixtures, major improvements like a $40K modern kitchen or a finished basement. I am sure that they are trying to figure out how to gain access into your home so they can raise your assessment even higher. That may be next as revenue generating options are getting slimmer with the 2% tax cap in place and last year's town wide reassessment tax grab completed.

SCATS said...

To 5:57PM ~~ You've never heard of the Monroe County Republican Committee?

To 6:25PM ~~ I've seen omissions from the tax files, too. Then there are the ERRONEOUS files they refuse to look into when you give them the info! As for interiors of your home, I think a drone down the chimney equipped with night vision capability will do quite nicely.

Anonymous said...

SCATS: After 45+ comments posted on this thread: a) Clearly no one wants a zombie house in their neighborhood, b) There’s no generally agreed definition for zombie, and c) There’s no defined problem in Greece, but there is a lot of emotion.

Meanwhile, Reilich offers the STONGEST EFFORT to combat an undefined problem. If he can keep the serf and the peasant taxpayers worked up over the banks, he's safe.

SCATS said...

To 9:31PM ~~ I'm fairly certain he's NOT pleased that 55+ comments have been made on this thread. He'd prefer none, don't you think?

Official NonSpokesman said...

Greece Democrats better get ready (Giggle emoticon here)

Next Stupidvisor race Bill Roadblock will point out how he solved the Zombie home problem in Greece.

Roadblock will be on a par with that Beartrap OVomit fellow who solved the problem of Americans without Health Care.

21st Century Poly Ticks- solving problems that don't exist!
Because We CAN bullshit you

Anonymous said...

Scats you said: To 5:57PM ~~ You've never heard of the Monroe County Republican Committee? Let me educate you, Sorry that is not a PAC. Don't mean to embarrass you on your lack of knowledge but it is not a PAC or Political Action Committee. It is a political party under election law, two separate animals. I practice law with a specialty in election law.

Anonymous said...

5:57. The Greece Republican committee has used the PAC system since it past muster year ago and it's worked very well for them as you can see their success. Success in the face of scandals that in any other town in this county would have resulted in current office holders being driven out of town on a rail.
One of the reasons the Greece Democratic Party has failed is the fact that they do not use thr PAC format. Each of their candidates have to raise their own funds through personal donations and various fund raisers .they receive zero financial aid from the County Committee.
I can recount one election cycle when the Greece Republican Committee raised over $40,000. And because Auberger faced no competition. That money was diverted to Ward Candidates to assure their reelection. Thus guaranteeing a 5-0 town board.
I also recall that as a member of the Greece Committe, I witnessed one candidate for office suggest forming a PAC by polling all monies raised by individule candidates to pool all monies to defeat Auberger and get one or two wards on the board. I then watched in dismay as this person was shot down by the leadership as being unrealistic in his approach. The result was a resounding defeat in a scandal ridden year that was to be the best chance they would ever have to seize control of the town government. The result was again 5-0

SCATS said...

To 11:01PM ~~ There are umpteen "committees" the Republicans hide behind ... "Housekeeping Committee" ... "Re-Election Committees" ... yada, yada, yada. Since you profess to be so well educated on the topic, By all means, PLEASE DO TELL US THE EXACT NAMES OF THE LOCAL REPUBLICAN PACS."

The fact that an individual was unable to support his/her candidate of choice without supporting the others is extremely distasteful.

Anonymous said...

Talk about political corruption, I happened to drive by the site of the new PD and was treated to a stomach wrenching of epic proportions
When I was confronted by the name of the contractor on a all too familiar sign informing me that Christa zdevelopment was the builder. Hang on to your wallets folks as this is the same firm that ripped uS off in the 2000 GCSD CIP to the tune of 2.5 M in work change orders with the help of Steve Walts. I intend to foil for a copy of his agreement with Reilich to do the project and then compare it with the final bill he gives the town when completed. I fully expect it will be significantly higher for the same reason as well as others. This firm was at one time being investigated by the Feds for a method all to familiar to how business is done on a county wide political process called BID RIGGING.

Anonymous said...

I do election law litigation, I commented earlier but apparently SCATS did not want to print my truthful statement but would rather rile all parties up. The Monroe County Republican party and the Greece Republican party do not have any PAC's. They have campaign accounts as do all elected officials. The County Republican party also has a housekeeping account which can only be used for operating the office, payroll and clerical, no campaign dollars can be spent for any one candidate out of housekeeping. This is to separate larger donations as required by law. The County Democrats blend their contributions of non campaign dollars and campaign dollars in one account. Very risky and not the best way to define legal campaign dollars from non campaign dollars.

Anonymous said...

Sorry just saw you did post my earlier comments.

Anonymous said...

To 5:36 Did you notice there is no sign stating what is being built and who the supervisor is?

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the Town's magnificent prior deal with CrapStar Construction where sprinkler pipes were located in unheated space in the Senile Center. That resulted in frozen pipes and megabuck restoration of everything from carpet to drywall and back. Taxpayers ate that bill because Auggie wouldn't claim against CrapStar.

CrapStar is NOT a Monroe County Contractor. They have put together a nice system for doing public projects that uses captive engineering firms and architects to bypass safetys built into public construction. CrapStar owns the job before the first keystroke goes on the laptop. See if you can find the Clerk of Work on the job site. Bet on that person not knowing what a shovel looks like.

SCATS said...

To 6:18PM ~~ I not only posted your comments but I REQUESTED THAT YOU TELL US WHO ARE THE LOCAL REPUBLICAN PACs." I guess you rather rile up people with inaccurate allegations that I don't post your comments.

To 7:08PM ~~ I took a drive up that way several days ago and noticed the lack of a sign, too. A bit odd for the good ole boys of Greece.

To 7:10PM ~~ I'll hold onto my coins, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Christa is not the contractor. They are the construction manager. Their are six different contractors based on their specialty. Foundation, Steel, electric etc. I attended the public meeting.

Anonymous said...

I've tried to say twice there are no local Republican PAC's only one who has one is Lovely Warren. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Is construction at town hall telling to visitors and potential new residents about psyche of Town leadership... LIBRARY will stand in the SHADOW of POLICE HQ at the dawn of each new day. Priorities in Greece put POWER and AUTHORITY over LEARNING and KNOWLEDGE!

SCATS said...

To 8:10PM ~~ So tell us WHERE will the cop cars enter & exit? Will they have to sit at the light? Or will they be rushing out next to the light causing mayhem for anyone lacking lights & a siren?

To 10:45PM ~~ If you paid attention to Greece Central, you'd know EDUCATION, KNOWLEDGE & LEARNING are always last.

Anonymous said...

Christa is the GENERAL CONTRACTOR and responsible to get the job done on budget. He held rhe same position with GCSD and did well X ceding his $39M contract by 2.5 M in clear violation of State Education Law by Walts et al. The State audit slammed the district for exceeding the amount approved by the voters in the 2000 CIP. Under pressure from the Feds, the company would recently reimburse the district 1M of that amount.

Anonymous said...

To 5:36 PM: I hope you succeed in Foiling the town regarding the accepted contract costs for the PD project. Reilich stated to the D&C that the total cost for the project is "$9.5 Million". Lets keep track of what the actual cost will be to the taxpayers.
To 8:10 PM: You say that Christa is in charge of the project and has authority to oversee the project. It is not clear to me who actually selected the contractors, Greece or Christa? Who will be responsible for authorizing cost overruns? I come up with $316 sq/ft ($9.5 million/30000 sq/ft) I'm assuming the building has no basement and if the cost per sq/ft is actually a complete cost including new furnishings, computer systems, moving expenses, etc. What monetary savings and safety improvements are gained with this new station to justify the expenditure? Maybe I missed a news article that expounded on some of these questions.

Anonymous said...

If the bidding on construction was anyplace near legit, the plans and RFQs will be at Rochester Builders Exchange.
If it was done in the usual CrapStar manner, all bidding was handled quietly in house under their FastTrack system.

There is nothing to see here. In a few years when the failures become obvious, LeChase will be able to document them for a fee. LeChase knows what they are doing, and are worth their fee.

Anonymous said...

Just read an article about Henrietta. One of the reasons stated by their supervisor for their low taxes is that they don't have a police department. Do they have that much less crime that they don't need one or does the Sheriff just do a damn good job in that town and others without a police dept ? Are we that much better off with our one expensive police dept? and don't we still pay for the Sheriff patrol anyway ?

Anonymous said...

A General Contractor is selected thru( chuckle , chuckle) by the bid process by the town . He in turn hires all the
Sub contractors necessary to do the project. Oversight is handled by the so called "Clerk of the works" who is hired by
The town. In theory this the proper way required by law. But after all, this Greece, Monroe County NYwho conveniently
Selects a Party Favorite as the general contractor and then is free to select sub contractors with political ties to the
Republican Party and their leaders. This is where things begin to get murky and convoluted with respect to whether or not
The most qualified sub contractors are hired or " favorite son" political hacks are hired that are politically connected get the job
Over more qualified contractors that do not have that prerequisite standing. It's simply business as usual in Monroe county
corrupt politics . Something we just witnessed regarding the husband of Our Ms Brooks.

SCATS said...

To 1:39PM ~~ Yes, we still pay for a sheriff. If we used MCSO instead of having our own PD, we wouldn't need to maintain TWO precincts, pay 100+ cops plus numerous administrative staff, etc. Just think, if we got it down to ONE FD as well, our taxes might not be among the highest around! I'm sure that Henrietta has at least as much crime as Greece does. Just like us, they have a large mall and a big retail presence.

Anonymous said...

To SCATS: Henrietta's combined property and school taxes are at least 25% less than sorry ass tax rate. Just think how much of the unjustified tax burden can be trimmed by a significant reduction in PD and FD overhead costs! We would not need to build and maintain a new $10,000,000+ PD station either..............Much of the overindulgence, frivolous spending and overstaffed positions such as we have stems from our emboldened power hungry political leaders and union bosses.
Zombie homes in the headlines is just a distraction maneuver by our chief honcho........

SCATS said...

To 3:50PM ~~ Methinks you are correct regarding the diversion.

Anonymous said...

Over 60 contractors bid on six sections of the job. A public bid opening occurred with 100 people present. Half of the contracts awarded for being the lowest price were union. Know what you speak of, at least one of you please. Why is it SCATS that every time you allow a post to appear you give your opinion on the comment? You're not that smart.

SCATS said...

To 9:34PM ~~ LMAO! First of all, we haven't commented on every comment posted. Secondly, we've said next to nothing about the contractors & bidding for the police station. So, to answer your question: Yes, we ARE "that smart" AND we run the BLOG ... you don't.

Anonymous said...

Is Mr Reilich going to return the funds from the LDC committees from his pig roast when he was in the assembly as well as when he was supervisor? I saw Rivera and Lynch at his fund raisers.

I don't think the county chairman of a political parts should also be supervisor.
So much smoking mirrors...sooner or later the truth is going to come out.

Anonymous said...

11:39AM total BS and made up.

Anonymous said...

Have any Zombies been captured yet?

I'm escert of zombies.

Is zombie catching a job for them Special Pooleece?
Or do they just play in Special Olympics?