Smarter CATS BLOG with "SCATS" - Smarter Citizens for Accountability in the Town & Schools
Anothe day in the GCSD, another reason why we moved.
7:29 PM- and the school district you are now in has never experienced any fighting or violence? I doubt it. It is everywhere.
To 2:09PM ~~ While I know you are likely correct, I believe there's a big difference in frequency and cause. GCSD sweeps it ALL under the carpet, making it a regular part of the school day here.
A "rumble"? That's a bit dramatic, I think.
To 9:04PM ~~ Not at all. Apparently, you've forgotten about the afterschool "meet me on Olympia Drive (or Maiden Lane)" gang fights of the past.
Nope. Not so far this year. Not at all last year. No, there's not been any fights or violence in our current district in the past 2 years. But Greece? Almost daily.
I have said it before.Fights have been going on in Greece schools since their inception.The fact that now everyone can see it due to social media makes them just more visible.We had gangs in the 60's and the only purpose was to act tough & back it up.There was no security, no 911, no instant movies that spread like wildfire.Like it or not fighting is natural. Good Bad Stupid or Smart it is natural.
To 11:46AM ~~ So then, we're wasting money on SRO's today, because we had fights in the 60's and survived fine without them, right?It bothers me that the UNDERLYING CAUSES of these fights is NEVER DEALT WITH.
SCATS -- 60's -- That's when I was in high school, and yes I am fine. The point you missed is that there has been fighting since the beginning of time. Let them fight it out. There will be a new respect for each side. Most fights are over in minutes. 2 minutes of fighting takes a lot out of you believe me. If you stop it too early there is no winner or loser. Most people start a fight knowing someone will be there to break it up quickly. That is why a lot of fights start when the participants knows there is going to be an audience.
To 2:35PM ~~ I could not disagree more! "Letting them" fight doesn't work. Think back a few years ago when there were SUCCESSIVE fights on 3 days at one of the high schools. Each day, it got bigger until it drew in FORMER STUDENTS to the mix. With accessibility to weapons added on, the last thing we need is a homicide on school grounds. The root issue needs to be dealt with by the adults. That's why we have them there!
C min Scats times and the cultural differences that exist today in our schools did not exist 20 or 30 yrs ago I worked security back then and we had fights back then also. As someone said they happen at school for peer effect and the knowledge that it would be of short duration because it would be broken up by security and teachers.The worst group then and I'm told by current employees it still is are girl fights. They have a habit to last an entire school year between two girls. With the Boys it was one fight and it was over with and quickly forgotten and seldom repeated .As far as dealing with the root cause of these disagreements goes trying to figure that one out today is mission impossible of sorts. Kids are no different than us adults and will engage each other for a multitude of reasons some of which only makes sense to them and silly to others Fight are a part of growing up and learning that there is a much better way to resolve personal conflict and difference of opinion
To 5:45PM ~~ Fights created by RACIAL TENSION have been an ongoing issue in Greece schools since the early 90's, if not before! Admin. refuses to acknowledge it, just as they refuse to use the "g" word.The girl fights are more common at middle school, the boy fights in high school. The causes HAVE changed.
GCSD needs to gain control and they need to do it NOW. Fortunately there is a workable method that will create jobs in the process, and they won't need to be high paying jobs with benefits either.GCSD has available minimally 100 graduate Athletes who have gone as far as they can go in higher education, not to be confused with education on getting HI, and are currently both unemployed and unemployable doe in large part to their high and HI skill levels.We need to bring the Hockey Pucks and Duh Football Playas back to employ their well learned techniques roaming the halls and classrooms keeping order. Sure, there might be some blood on walls and floors, but out janitorial staff is adept at dealing with blood spills, and the present students need to learn they MUST graduate before they can be violent other than on the ice and ball fields. Present students need a goal to work toward, and seeing their predecessors patrolling and controlling the halls can be that goal. We damn well know the present system of Jail Hacks and off duty cops ain't getting the message across.It's past time to put some fear into the students.
Rumbles and fights caused by racial tensions? Seems a reaxh, if you ask me.
I agree this generation of kids need to fear and respect the law, rules and regulations. Unfortunately this generation only respects and fears two things. They are PAIN and the THREAT OF PAIN. Two things forbidden in our society Hell you can't even spank your own kids without being charged with assault. It's no different in your school district whose rules of engagement with students forbids physical force necessary to deal with some of these animals roaming the halls of your schools.These kids know this and have no fear of the two things that will get their attention and respect. In the process they make fools out of those employees charged with safety of our kids. Guards that were either retired law enforcement or working part time, would quit because they felt compromised in their abilities to deal with these inmates.Until the school officials decide to take off the gloves and develope an aggressive approach to this problem, the inmates will continue to run the jail.
To 8:37AM ~~ First of all, we didn't ask you. Secondly, what flavor Kool-Aid has GCSD been dispensing your direction? It's been very effective! Thirdly, going back to the 1990's Olympia HS has experienced ongoing troubles that the district was charged with "sweeping under the rug" at that point in time! Fourthly, as this BLOG has recorded over time, many of these rumbles involve diverse groups who have themselves referenced the district's unwillingness to address the racial tensions until another fight erupts.To 11:24AM ~~ Ain't gonna happen! Doing so would require the teachers to step-up AND DO SOMETHING! That requires union negotiations and MORE $$$.
Bring that badass hockey thug & his gang er I mean team back, beat the little punks back into proper submission to authority in the hands of dullards er I mean educators.Make the little shitz pay for parking too, and locker rent.Kick ass into submission!Lock em in assembly rooms with no phones and make em listen to long hair music.Take their pot away too by god.They stay in that room till they're ready and able to sign up for the Army, and the Army is willing to take them. The boys too!
I didn't need to be asked to look up the definition of "rumble" to read that this does not qualify. A rumble is a "street fight between rival teenage gangs." I wasn't aware that comments are only welcomed when invited.
To 10:05AM ~~ Just a few years ago, a RUMBLE did happen after school on Olympia Dr. between competing hoodlum student groups. It was all over the news. Just because they don't call it what it is doesn't mean it doesn't exist. OPEN YOUR EYES.
Lol. The Army won't takes these misfits either. I think they have a policy that rejects DROP OUTS automatically. Society appears stuck with them until they end up locked up or dead from street violence that is most likely gang related.
Did Chris Sloane get ousted from Olympia? It seems as she was given a "new position " at district office. Rumor mill has it she was removed from her position because of poor relationships with staff at Olympia.
Good riddance. Everyone knew she was the cause of all the turmoil. Maybe now the school will start to heal and become what it should be because of all the wonderful people that work there.
Perhaps the Arcadia rumble occurred cause the security staff is unsupervised by another double dipper, are always hiding in an office, and has their radios turned off. The guard taken out on video does great at collecting massive overtime ($22 OR MORE PER HOUR) working many many EVENTS, but really seems to fail at the necessary intervention here performing his normal job description. Just do a search on SEETHROUGHNY to see what Jr. makes!
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