Wednesday, December 02, 2015

Top Cops Visit Media @Marketplace Mall


Seen on the noon news on WHEC today ~~ One of the Greece PD's Deputy Chiefs and his side-kick Jared Renee. They appeared for an interview regarding the Pirate Toy Fund.

Couldn't they wait until later this week when the televised segment will take place at Greece Ridge mall?

Were they paid for their time & excursion?


67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Coincidentally, Rene is the son-in-law of "Gary the Happy Pirate" Smith. Rene is married to Gary's daughter, who also coincidentally, is the Director of Operations for Smith's Pirate Toy Fund, which Rene was apparently promoting while on duty. Can you say personal benefit and conflict of interest?

SCATS said...

To 7:16PM ~~ VERY interesting!! TY for the heads up.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least 2 Greece Cops are doing something good, even if they are doing it on taxpayer time.

Damn sure can't find much comparable to say about the rest of the Town departments.

Why do all command staff have to have a sidekick along? Can they not be trusted alone?

SCATS said...

To 9:47PM ~~ With your attitude, we can all anticipate another huge increase coming to our assessments next time around.

Anonymous said...

SCATS even without 9:47's attitude, we can all anticipate another huge increase coming to our assessments next time around.

Were you in the nip jar that you anticipated differently?
Are you back purring Nip for my cats, beer for the dog & Shrimp for the welfare graduates of GCAD?

Have you donated to Shoplift with a Cop 2015?
NO, sending the contents of the litterbox to MeChief doesn't count.

SCATS said...

To 1:21AM ~~ Good point. Meowa culpa!

Anonymous said...

I see nothing wrong with Greece Police showing up at charity events during work hours. If anyone hasn't noticed, they do have tons of idle time anyways and we as taxpayers keep funding a 100+ police force when it is not needed. Expect another town wide reassessment as the piggy bank is starting to run dry with the 2% property tax cap in place. They will continue to over assess properties as they know homeowners have little to no recourse but to shut-up and pay. Also, wait and see what the real cost of the new Police Headquarters will be, not the released preconstruction estimate............

SCATS said...

To 1:04PM ~~ You see nothing wrong with it even after stating they have too many cops?? With fools like us, no wonder they constantly pull this crapple ... and we think Sheldon Silver is corrupt ... Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

Anonymous said...

1:04 has a point. We don't need a 100 man PD. In fact we don't need one at all. We need to turn it over to the 252 Sheriffs Rd patrol. All we need to do s get the required signatures for a referendum to abolish the department forcing the town board to take that action. I'm sure O Flynn could spare 15 or 20 of his men to patrol Greece. Why not, we are already paying for sheriffs services with out receiving any return.Talk about savings to us taxpayers, it would be HUGE. How does a savings of 30 cents on every town tax dollar you now pay to pay for those 100 cops sound to you. Now that's what I call real savings that would have a huge impact on your town tax bill. About 30% less then we are know paying every year.So if you would feel comfortable with 20 cops divided into three shifts,, equating to about 3 to4 cops per 8 hr shifts for thr entire town counting days off, vacations and illness,Hell , let's do it.

Anonymous said...

To Scats: I was only being facetious regarding cops at charity events during working hours. The point being that they are overstaffed, so they have the luxury for "fill in activities" such as this and this is only one example of many that the supervisory brain-trust have no issues with..................Overstaffed with average salaries over $100K, you're right, us taxpayers are the suckers!

Anonymous said...

1:04 how many cops do you think a town of 100,000 people need? That ratio is far below the national average. Greece is a huge Town which could be a city. Rochester has about 215,000 people and about 500 cops and a smaller geographical area. Perhaps if the county had a 311 type service for non emergency calls I could agree but since we don't I think 100 is maybe low.

Anonymous said...

2:25 It's obviuos you have clue as to tthe staffing requirements in a town like Greece. Those requirements have increased because of influx of former city dwellers moving into the south east quadrant, You mention the $100 K salaries. That figure contains about 20% of their base salaries. In overtime.
Greece, likes well organized police department has a policy stating the number of officers that must be on duty during each 8 hr shift in the interest of public safety and officer safety. When sick time, vacations nor male days off., it requires adjusting work schedules like canceling a cops day off or what they normally do, two officers on duty will cover the shortage by slitting an 8 hr shift shortage. An so officer about to complete his 8 hr shift will agree to work an additional 4 hrs with an officer 3rd shift coming in 4 hrs earlier, thus covering the man power requirements.
What this tells me is anything, they are short handed and under staffed. You see, it is a fact that it's more cost efficient to use this method rather than anotherhire a full time officer who would also be entitled to the benefit package that goes with the position. The benefit package equates to about 40% of the officers base salary.. From an administrative point of view , it makes good sense.

Anonymous said...

National standards is 1 officier for every 1,000 people. We should have 97.

SCATS said...

To anyone attempting to read & understand 3:59's comment ~~ If it doesn't make your eyes hurt, it will make your brain throb.

To 4:30PM ~~ TY for a succinct & intelligent remark!

Anonymous said...

4:30 pm. Yep but that's Patrol Officers. Greece has about 65 actual patrol officers so they need about 30 more to be at the national average.
3:59 pm post makes sense to me. Basically it's cheaper to pay less cops more in Overtime then hire additional officers because of the benefits. So the income they make is a lot of over time but it's still cheaper for us tax payers
2:25 not sure how you think they are overstaffed? I thought Rene was in charge of community services so that would fall under his job title so his "fill in activity" as you put it does not affect the actually cops working the streets.

Anonymous said...


I guess Greece add 400 cops in a few years?

Greece Town, NY

Total Law Enforcement 104

Total Officers 98

Civilian Employees 6

Officers per 10K residents 10.1

Total per 10K residents 10.7

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/police-officers-per-capita-rates-employment-for-city-departments.html

SCATS said...

To 9:25PM ~~ There is not a single word about work with charitable groups, or going OUTSIDE THE TOWN to engage in such activities on the list of duties on GPD's site: Crime prevention presentations, assistance with special events, and assistance with "quality of life issues". It also serves as a liaison with schools and community groups with the Town of Greece. The unit directly oversees our School Resource Officer program, Animal Control Office, Crossing Guards and the Greece Police Explorer Program. The Community Services Unit also works closely with Greece Neighborhood Watch groups and the Police Athletic League.

Of course, it also fails to mention putting a slug into the belly of a resident napping on the floor of his home on an otherwise quiet Sunday afternoon.

Anonymous said...

Does it say anything about terminating the breathing of a fellow who owned a bar down on Manitou Beach at Skinner's Landing SCATS?

How about blowing a junkie kid out of his shoes at the Mall?

Maybe they were out there in another County promoting some get busted in Greece thing, you know, get BUSTED and you get a complementary Happy Meal on the way to Booking. Might be a way to get a better class of criminals to come to Greece. Job insurance and such.

Do we still have a Police Athletic League?

SCATS said...

To 2:42AM ~~ According to the town website, PAL is still cranking.

Anonymous said...

How come Irondiquoit gets to vote on a new library and Henretta gets to vote on a new Community center but Greece gets no vote to on a PD HQ ?

Anonymous said...

I was able to under stand the points raised by 3:59 even though it had some unintended gaffs. Basically what he or she said is factual. Having worked in another suburban town administration , it was standard budgetary proceedure to budget for more police officer positions than you actually intend to hire. The point made in that post was on the mark regarding the paying of overtime to cover shortages rather than hire additional full time officers. Every municipality does this in their budget preparations. In other words,budget for 4 new officers and only hire one or two usually toward the end of the budget year.This would result in a budget surplus more than enough to cover anticipated overtime short falls contained in the budget. In some circles it's classified as " Budget Bingo". The same method is employed in equipment items. For example, budget for 4 replacement cars and only purchase two. This is standard practice for anyone responsible to put forth a budget.
So does that necessarily mean we are being overtaxed? Not really because those surpluses can be used to cover unanticipated costs in other areas by the use of budget account transfers. Your school district does this routinely. The only fault I find in this practice is that rarely if at all, are these surpluses applied to the revenue side of the following years budget.

SCATS said...

To 7:37AM ~~ CONGRATULATIONS!! You've "Discovered the Promise" ... the promise called corruption.

SCATS said...

To 8:21AM ~~ You asked: "So does that necessarily mean we are being overtaxed?"

Your answer is inaccurate. Try tracking Greece home sales for a neighborhood for a period of at least 4-6 weeks. Watch for the initial asking price vs. the assessment vs. the final sale price. THEN TELL TO TELL US HOW WE AREN'T BEING OVERTAXED .

Anonymous said...

Scats My comment was meant to deal with budget to budget conditions and surpluses created in doing so. Sure, and I won't disagree with you, properties in Greece and other towns are consistently over assessed in order maintain the assessed value of the entire town. In the case of Greece, I believe the assessed value of properties in the town is around &400 B. Since all other taxing authorities use this figure to establish yearly taxes, it is important to maintain that figure. Since the county never raises property taxes fixed a $8.99 / k forever, I n order to maintain services whose costs have exceeded that figure, increased property assessments is a back door way to cover the shortfall. It's amazing to me how many taxpayers don't under stand that this amounts to a tax increase in reality.
J

SCATS said...

To 11:20AM ~~ It's a VERY STINKY way to maintain that figure! Not to mention, homeowners make up for all the COMIDA & other giveaways the powers-that-be decide on. Additional tax INCREASES come in the form of NEW FEES added to tax bills ... they have a variety of methods of raising taxes without actually "raising taxes." Very clever.

Anonymous said...

So you really think a web site will have everything and only the things some one does. He is community service so I think that would include a lot more then the web site lists. I am all for anything the cops can do above and beyond for charity. I have no problem with them leaving our town. Most of the criminals are form outside our town. I also like how everyone thinks their taxes pay the cops salary. A small percentage of your tax goes to salary. More of our taxes go to public assistance type programs so let's focus on the crap people getting disability or food stamps or welfare are doing they are the real burden on our taxes. We should have every right to see what they are up to. Also if you get star or star plus we should be able to see how you maintain your house since my taxes are paying for your house!!!!

SCATS said...

To 5:33PM ~~ Your "logic" is faulty ... by your own words. If the crooks are COMING TO GREECE to do their crimes, we need our cops IN GREECE to prevent &/or resolve them!! Sending them to Marketplace Mall doesn't do us a damn bit of good. They could have done their gig at Greece Ridge Mall TODAY! The Pirate Toy fund moved there for Fri-Sat.

I agree with your sentiment about those on welfare or STAR plus. EVERYONE, even you, should be getting STAR. STAR is like pretending we are getting a "sale price" when every year is offered at "sale price." Not taking basic STAR would be ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Here we go again now- Is this another OVERTIME bonus for members of the BLUE Union?
A little stocking stuffer from Uncle Bill on the secure floor of Town Hall perhaps?

Created: 12/05/2015 12:05 PM WHEC.com

Local police officers helped ring in the holiday season for children on Saturday morning.

This was part of the annual “Shop With A Cop” event. Greece Police officers and community members spent their morning on a shopping spree with kids at the Wal Mart on Dewey Avenue.

The event included shopping, toys, crafting, and lunch. Even Santa himself made an appearance at the event.

Saturday’s “Shop With A Cop” marks the event’s eighteenth year.

Anonymous said...

2:11. Time for a reality check. NO overtime for this event. All cops are off duty volunteers. You might find that hard to take, but our local cops do a lot of pro bono work. The PAL. Is another example.

SCATS said...

To 5:46PM ~~ I want to be clear about this. Our point has to do with the fact they WENT TO HENRIETTA to support this when 2 days later, they could have done the exact same "good deed" at the mall in Greece. That would have been at less time, gas & other expense to the community they seek support from.

Anonymous said...

I understand your position, but an important component of any PD is public relations. I see nothing wrong with those officers assigned to that
Public Relations or Public Safety Units attending functions such as this to show our towns support for this event.
I'm sure if you attended the one at the Mall, you would have observed officers from other Departments there for the same reason. I'm afraid you are nitpicking a little bit relative time and gas.

SCATS said...

To 8:01AM ~~ Yup, nitpicking adds up over time and budgets. A spray park here ... police time there ... a picnic under the pavilion ... it ALL adds up!

And then they b*tch about 2% tax caps!

Anonymous said...

Scats You know what also adds up? There isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

Anonymous said...

Primary reason for last years town wide reassessment was to keep the coffers as fat as possible as they are now handicapped by the 2% tax cap. As far as I am concerned, the tax cap should be -2% each year, not +2%. I reviewed hundreds of reassessed homes and could not find a single one with the assessment reduced. That is totally impossible! The town made a futile attempt to control cost, indicating it has taken action to reduce head count. I did not hear of any reductions in the Greece PD or Fire Personnel. Town officials are wimps dealing with the Police Union. Even if there were a token few let go, the tax rate/burden would not change one bit as the real cost driver is total compensation (base pay, overtime, 20 year and out pensions and health care for life. The overtime scheme is slowly bankrupting us as they exploit this to the limit knowing that pensions are calculated on base pay plus overtime. It is ludicrous to believe that there is no abuse of overtime for the explicit purpose of raising pension payout, for life!! I say let them leave after 20 years but pension distributions starts at age 60 or over. Better yet, get rid of the pensions altogether and have them fund their own retirement, same as most of the public they serve.

Don't believe that the Greece PD is overworked. NY State published statistics tell the story, even with Rochester PD's 5x ratio, Greece has significantly less crime to deal with, especially violent crime! It appears that a disproportionate amount of time is spent on shoplifting and/or similar category property theft crimes......

Crime Rate Statistics for 2014
Greece, NY (100 Police Force) Rochester PD (500 Police Force)
Murder 1 32
Forcible Rape 13 112
Robbery 48 698
Agg Assault 86 848
Violent Crime Total (148) (1690)

Burglary 295 2125
Larceny 2073 6058
MV Theft 61 673
Property Crime Total (2429) (8846)

Anonymous said...

No one in Greece government is complaining about the 2% cap. As a matter of FACT they are not even coming close as the last three budgets had a ZERO percent increase toward the cap.

SCATS said...

To 8PM ~~ Please read 6:53PM's comment ... and nevermind the guy behind that curtain ;)

Anonymous said...

To 11:51 and now more "free" stuff at the puckel ball court...........building, lights & frame to hold the ice etc, etc

SCATS said...

To 9:43PM ~~ AND SECURITY ;)

Anonymous said...

6:53 sounds like maybe you should've taken the police test instead of complaining about what their benefits are. You sound jealous. So work 20 years but you can't collect until your 60? That makes no sense. This is the system they were hired under. The system has been changed so many new hires have to work 25 years and do contribute towards their pensions.
Your crime stats really make no sense just because the city has more violent crime means nothing as far as being busy goes. shoplifting takes up a lot of the cops time as well as the other property crimes. Not to mention all the non emergency 911 calls they have to respond to. Busy is busy regardless of the level of crime being dealt with.

Anonymous said...

In other GPD news; Do not sleep nekid on the floor of your house in Greece unless you want to get shot and go to prison.


Created: 12/07/2015 7:22 PM WHEC.com

The man accused of pointing a gun on police in his Greece home pleaded guilty on Monday.

Thomas Manza pleaded guilty to menacing a police officer and criminal possession of a controlled substance.

Officers responded to Manza's home in November 2014 after reports of two loose dogs. Police say when they arrived, the front door was open, water was running and Manza was on the ground sleeping with a shotgun to his side.

Investigators say Manza woke up and pointed the gun at them and one of the officers shot Manza. Manza was taken to the hospital where he was treated.

Manza will be sentenced to two years in state prison on January 14 along with two years' post release supervision.

SCATS said...

To 4:54PM ~~ You must be kidding me! There is NO shoplifting in Greece! Remember, the new Walmart would be free of such problems. Part of Discovering the Promise ;)

To 8:19PM ~~ I heard he got a plea deal. I sincerely hope he sues the pants off this town for that UNWARRANTED INVASION of his home. I still shake my head over the fact that only one month later, another guy was charged only with "tampering with evidence" after driving around the body of his dead girlfriend on Christmas Eve. He gave her the drugs that resulted in her doing a Whitney Houston in the tub. Their tot was left home alone while daddy moved mommy's body from room to room and then to the car for a quick drive down Maiden Ln. How the heck can taking the body for a ride was ALL he gets in trouble for??

Anonymous said...

To 4:54 PM: You are correct, I am complaining and rightfully so regarding tax payer money extorted via union contracts that our elected leaders keep signing. I will state it again, they are a spineless bunch of hypocrites. This is a significant contributor the highest property taxes in the country based on percentage of home assessed valuation. Break the unjust contracts! Oops, I forgot, that they have no competition like a private business, so they have no motive to become more efficient. Detroit went bankrupt due to these types of money grab contracts and at that point they became worthless paper! Who in the real world can start collecting pensions and full health care after 20 years of service and possibly as early as age 45? How many would leave after 20 years if the pension payout did not start until age 60? This is not just a Greece PD, but a NY State tax dilemma. Overtime abuse to boost final pension payouts is not new, supervision have no ethics and should be criminally charged allowing this continue year after year after year! The public cannot afford this. AS evidence, tens of thousands have and will continue to leave/retire to tax friendly states due to the astronomically high tax environment here.

You say the system has changed, Now new hires need to work 25 years and contribute towards their pensions. This doesn't sound like significant reform, only a small measure to pacify the public. How much do they contribute to their pensions and healthcare? Do you know where that data is? I also have real heartburn when a School Superintendent and some Police Officers (Amityville, NY) pull in more money than the Governor! It is a total joke and the suckers are the taxpayers.

My crime statistics make perfect sense since it is accurate information. Fact, Rochester has significantly higher violent crime rate. That means those officers are at much more risk statistically and much more responsibilities resolving crime issues. Pay should be commensurate with risk. Paying $100K a year for taking shoplifting reports and fill-in busy work should not sit well with Greece taxpayers! Overall, I think the Greece PD does a great job and should be fairly. The tax burden on the taxpayer is to high to ignore and all facets of government spending needs to be reigned in. Start with the following 3 steps, End of Story!

1) Overtime added to pension calculation has to go - base pay only.
2) Restructure retirement: phase-out pension and replace with matching 401K or similar plan.
3) Retirement pension payout starts at age 60.

SCATS said...

To 10:55AM ~~ Re: "Fact, Rochester has significantly higher violent crime rate. That means those officers are at much more risk statistically and much more responsibilities resolving crime issues. Pay should be commensurate with risk."

First of all, RPD rarely happens upon the scene of any actual crime while it is taking place. They tend to wait until it's over, then go in to do clean-up. We know this from video taken a year or so ago showing the hoodlums essentially rioting, even shooting off a gun in the streets as a night club crowd dispersed late one weekend night. RPD cordoned off the street until the trouble-makers dispursed back into the 'hood.

By comparison, GPD will enter your home without a warrant and shoot you in the belly if your dogs get loose. I'm not sure they deserve more pay for that either!

Anonymous said...

10:55 by your own admission cops get paid for what may happen or what they may have to do. You can't have 3 cops working and hope nothing big comes in. I see nothing wrong with their pay scale. The civil service system is set up the way it is. Anyone can take the tests and be a cop or fireman or any civil service job. New York has the pension system covered very well in fact many states are trying to copy our system so they don't go bankrupt. I don't want that job for any amount of money. Work weekends and holidays no thanks. Dealing with the public who is recording everything just hoping they do or say something "wrong". Every shooting is shown one sided by the media and the cops side is never explained and if it was no one cares kinda like the moron who got shot when he was passed out high on drugs and left his dogs out and his stove on. Then he pointed a gun at a cop and he got shot. Scats doesn't want to see their side or chooses to ignore it. I wish cops used more force on these animals. If you are a criminal your rights should be reduced. I have yet to see any 100% innocent person shot by the cops some may have been excessive force but I know I will never get shot by the cops because I'm not a criminal and listen to what they tell me to do! Is amazing how differently people see things I'd say pay them more and stop welfare, DSS and meidcaid. That would really save me money.

Anonymous said...

Ain't it awesome how those never faced with doing any dangerous job, or facing any real threat while doing their job have so many opinions about how someone else with a far riskier job should perform their duties.

I have a suggestion for all of you posting here who seem to have none of those real experiences that might enlighten those of us with that experience. Please enlighten us by posting your unproven methods of handling those unknown situations of someone with a gun, knife, other weapon, or possibly pretending to be sleeping on the floor with a loaded shotgun at their fingertips!

Most of you don't and can never know the adrenalin, pounding of your heart, the fear of death, or the thought that if its not them, it will be my family mourning the loss.

Complain all you want - there are far more families praising our PD's, military, and first responders for saving our loved ones than those condemning us!!!

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget that IAFF members employed by the City work for a lower rate of pay than Greece IAFF Members get.
City Firefighters also respond to more calls per shift than Greece IAFF Members do pretty much year after year, and do so with lesser equipment.
Several City Firefighters I know have called the pay in NGFD & RRFD obscene.

It's all part of the promise you discovered when you moved to Greece.

SCATS said...

Shame on you, 4:51PM!! ~~ It has NEVER been claimed that Manza was "high on drugs" as you claim! Making up details to prove your point makes YOU part of the problem.

Shame on you, too, 5:26PM !! ~~ You have NO CLUE who works in a "dangerous job" and MANY who read and comment here have seved in the military, often during periods of war! Your final statement gave you away when you claimed to be among the first responders. If you don't like your job, its pay or how you're perceived by the community, by all means feel free to get a real job ;) (No need to write your hate-filled rebuttals. You aren't capable of making your argument without violating the policies of this BLOG related to name-calling, etc.)

To 5:41PM ~~ You are absolutely correct!

SCATS said...

BY THE WAY ~~ Had GPD done what they SHOULD HAVE DONE before entering Manza's home, there would be little to no argument from most. In the U.S.A., a search warrant is REQUIRED PRIOR TO conducting a home invasion by the cops!

Anonymous said...

http://www.lawofficer.com/articles/print/volume-4/issue-6/investigations/seven-exceptions-search-warran.html

For 2:11AM, examine this link for exceptions to search warrants. Focusing on the first exception in this article, which lists exigent circumstances for its first exception.

SCATS said...

To 5:04AM ~~ We already rehashed the whole "welfare check" concept a year ago. In your link, it mentions life-saving situations, or where the cops or community were at risk under "exigent circumstances." NEITHER OF THOSE APPLIED IN THIS SITUATION! In fact, the only folks "worried" about his welfare were the cops who hung out around his property for well over an hour before deciding they needed to get back to the football game they were missing.

IT is NOT illegal to sleep naked on the floor of your home with a shotgun beside you! Weird? Perhaps. But NOT illegal.

Anonymous said...

This rediculous argument is starting to take on the characteristics of ."wrong if you do or wrong if you don't,"We know what the cops did in this situation. The blog administration has taken the position that they acted "wrong"by unlawful entry to the residence.Others have said they were not wrong and justified in their actions. Since I assume anyone commenting on this event was not present at the scene as things took place,.we only have media accounts and the police statement of what took place in defense of the actions taken to go on.
Based on what we know, I look at it from a different point of view.
Let's suppose the cops faced with rather unusual visual circumstances that existed, decided to not enter and get back to the ball game. Sometime later, the father arrived home and found his son laying naked on the floor with a shot gone by his side, he then discovered that his son was dead a victim of crime and had been shot to death. His reactions would have been predictable including a call to 911. Now comes the shocker for him. He learns that in fact the cops had been there earlier and after observing the unusual circumstances they could from out side, decided to leave without entering the house without discovering what had taken place. It's not hard to imagine his reaction. This would now be an example of " wrong if you don't." One can easily see the reaction in the community, the media and I'm sure the Scats blog.For if it happened in this manner, this blog would have eviciserated those officer for not entering the house and possibly rendering assistance to the victim and save his life. Therefore, it is my contention that given what the facts were at the time, they would have been wrong if not entering with just cause as has been pointed out by a previous commenter. The only fault I find with the actions of the officers if reports of waiting two hours to make the decision to enter are correct, they waited too long to take the proper actions they finally decided to take.
.

SCATS said...

To 2:09PM ~~ LMAO!!! And IF they found him dead after waiting the two hours before entering, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE??? Dead is dead!! The FACTS tell us that two loose dogs are NOT enough to raise such alarm as you have fabricated, especially since the dogs had been loose on prior dates.

Since you want us to believe you are some grand prognisticator of the truth, please oh please tell me what my wife wants me to get for her Christmas gift! I'll be forever grateful!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Reply to following interpretation:

Shame on you, too, 5:26PM !! ~~ You have NO CLUE who works in a "dangerous job" and MANY who read and comment here have seved in the military, often during periods of war! Your final statement gave you away when you claimed to be among the first responders. If you don't like your job, its pay or how you're perceived by the community, by all means feel free to get a real job ;) (No need to write your hate-filled rebuttals. You aren't capable of making your argument without violating the policies of this BLOG related to name-calling, etc.)

I can't offer excuses because I sometimes have trouble expressing myself due to my TBI. And I won't because however you choose to view me or my opinion I know who I am, what I've done, and the value to those I served. I don't expect thanks or apologies for myself - I am however looking for respect for those others doing a job today that you all seem too bent on destroying without the training,facts or experience necessary to do their job.

Anonymous said...

A new husband?

Anonymous said...

I appreciate the service our GPD provide, however, I would like to remind everyone who are brainwashed into believing that Police Officers have one of the most dangerous jobs need to look at the real facts regarding job related deaths. The workers in the occupations below face the biggest life risks, day to day. Also note, many in the jobs I listed below also earn far less, less benefits and don't have the option to collect a pension after 20 years like Police Officers!

Based on worker death rates (per every 100,000 workers in a given industry), here are the most dangerous jobs in the U.S.:

1.Loggers (91), who face risks like falling trees and machinery accidents
2.Commercial fishermen (75), whose risks include drowning and being injured by commercial fishing equipment
3.Airline pilots (51), whose primary risks involve crashes and plane equipment failures
4.Oil extraction workers (47), who face risks of machinery malfunctions, motor vehicle accidents, etc.
5.Roofers (41), whose primary risk is falling
6.Garbage collectors (33), who can be hurt by garbage trucks, trash compactors, etc.
7.Mining machine operators (27), who face risks similar to those experienced by oil field workers
8.Truck drivers (23), whose primary risk is getting into a crash
9.Farm and ranch workers (23), who can be hurt by larger livestock, heavy machinery, etc.
10.Electrical line repair workers (23), whose primary risks are being electrocuted and falling
11.Construction workers (18), who face a range of serious risks, including falling, being hit by heaving objects, etc.
12.Taxi drivers (18), whose risks include traffic accidents and violence/attacks.

Anonymous said...

GCSD Valedictorian 2:09

Mr Paragraph is your friend.
Please retype your submission keeping Paragraphs in mind.

I'll be damned if I go crosseyed like your Language Arts techyur did.

Santa said...

SCATS- she wants one of the electric litterboxes for you to use.

The poor woman has taken enough of your crap to last a lifetime.

Santa

SCATS said...

To 5:58PM ~~ TY for the laugh!!

To 11:18PM ~~ You should see the ones that get rejected!!

Anonymous said...

11:18. CROSSEYED? TECHYUR? I hope you live in a glass house. And if this 'was INTENTIONAL then Scats is guilty of violating a recent policy change ..

Anonymous said...

2:09. In Spite of the insults, I agree with your reasoning.And yes, they did the right thing but should have taken action sooner. Even though they were on an unrelated complaint,with what they encountered relative to the call,called for action on their part. Cops are faced with these kind of situation I'm sure many times. Situations that call for common sense decisions on their part in a relatively short period of time.its a tough demanding job that sometimes certain situations require split second decisions and affirmative action. I doubt any of us expressing opinions on this topic would be able and willing to do.I for one would not.

Unfortunately , what they encountered upon entering , was a bizarre unexpected scene which resulted in a shot gun pointed at them resulting in the justifiable but unfortunate shooting of the resident . Also , and in hindsight ,considering the facts as now known,they would have been better off walking away but existing circumstances dictated the action they took at the time.

SCATS said...

To 7:47AM ~~ You are sadly mistaken. There's been no recent change. God forbid that folks attempt to correctly SPELL, PUNCTUATE and use proper grammar on a BLOG that often deals with EDUCATION!

To 10:06AM ~~ How the heck did you learn to place periods so randomly throughout whatever you write? It is DISTRACTING, and sometimes very confusing.

As for the cops, I truly believe they spent two hours trying to FABRICATE a reason to gain entry ... not out of concern. If it were based upon actual concern, there'd have been NO DELAY. If they could wait two hours, they could wait for a warrant. PERIOD.

Anonymous said...

A warrant for what? The law is clear on this subject. No warrant needed in this instance. Besides the door was wide open. When cops get a request from someone to CHECK ON THE WELEFARE , NO WARRANT IS NEEDED IF THE CIRCUMSTANCE AT THE SCENE INDICATE THAT INSTANT ENTRY IS NECESSARY TO POSSIBLY SAVE A LIFE WITHIN THE HOME OR THEY RECEIVE PERMISSION FROM A RELATIVE TO MAKE A FORCED ENTRY..If the cops on the scene had a problem with making the entry, they should have called for the Watch Commander to make the decision.Scats this not to say that if the cops see a front door or any door open, they have the right to enter that house. In this case exigent circumstances existed that justified their action. END OF STORY.? I doubt it because I'm sure you will find someway to have the last word so be my quest and do your thing.as usual.

SCATS said...

To 2:13PM ~~ TY for once again proving that he who yells loudest on the internet likely KNOWS the least!!

FACT: There was NO request ... NONE ... NADA .... ZIP ... for the cops to conduct any "welfare check" on the day they entered Manza's home !!!! THEY DECIDED to call it "a welfare check" AFTER they made their illegal entry.

Again, this guy has the right to keep his door open ... his water running (as long as he pays the bill) ... etc. etc. etc. ! They had no right to enter just as you stated: "Scats this not to say that if the cops see a front door or any door open, they have the right to enter that house." But then you turn around & argue the opposite view, geesh.

Anonymous said...

Scats I added that sentence in hopes of denying you an opportunity to jump all over my open door statement. I see now that it did no good as you manage to spin it as you did , a tactic used many times in the past to dimish the credibility of a commenter who posts an opposite view of the position being taken.
I'm sure sensible readers of this site understand my point and will give it some thought regarding another possibility as to why things were done as they were in this instance.

SCATS said...

To 6:55AM ~~ LMAO! It's not that I spin your words - you do that quite well yourself! It's that you can't find a way to make a logical argument that sticks against my statement that NO REQUEST FOR ANY WELFARE CHECK WAS EVER MADE! It was an after-thought to get a warrant once they entered when they KNEW they shouldn't have! Given the two hour purported time lag, it is not justifiable, and I'm pretty sure you KNOW this :)

END OF ARGUMENT, unless you can add something NEW to the debate which is doubtful.

Anonymous said...

Scats I've been watching this tennis match and have a question. If indeed the entry was illegal wouldn't that be a crime? If so why weren't the cops arrested and charged? If it was illegal then anything that took place in the house was not justified . As I see it when one of them shot the guy on the floor that too was a crime. Why weren't they charged with assault or something? Very confusing to me .

SCATS said...

To 1:15PM ~~ When have you seen a cop arrest/charge another cop, especially around here?? Remember Nick Joseph, Gary Pignato & Co? Nobody crosses that thin blue line!