Tuesday, December 15, 2015

HEADS SHOULD ROLL !


AED UNIT USELESS WHEN NEEDED FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY @ ATHENA HS

  • Nurses & security guard relied on CPR!
  • Employee who suffered heart attack is in intensive care unit at hospital.

WHOSE JOB IS IT TO ENSURE AED IS MAINTAINED & OPERABLE?

Does anyone know?

32 comments:

Anonymous said...


Odd thought. Maybe security guards should be physically up to the tasks? Naa, crazy idea.

Big MEOW said...

Look Pussicat, the damn State wrote the stupid law in 2001. GCSD provides AEDs as the Law requires. The District understands the word "maintains" in the law to mean the school Custodian checks off a box on a form affirming the damn thing is still hanging on the wall and hasn't been ripped off by some student.

This is an Sports District, and we got our hands full keeping the little balls in the whistles issued to Coaches. Do you really think GCSD has anyone on payroll smart enough to read the instructions for the AED? We rely on the voice prompts from the machine to tell us what to do. Is it our fault the AED didn't tell the Custodian it was sick and not working?

WHAT do you expect from us? We are followers, not leaders, except for the Coaches. Why don't you ask the fireman on the Board these questions? He should know about AED crap from what he learned as a UNION Fireman, and HE should have brought it to the Bored's attention so they could send me a MEMO. NOOOO, he didn't do that. How would I know about that crap?

Now go play with the browinies in your litterbox and leave running the Greece Central Sport District to my capable hands. I don't need to be upset with crap like this. No Athletes were injured, and that's the important thing.

Kat

Anonymous said...


1 Section 1. Section 917 of the education law, as added by a chapter of
2 the laws of 2002 amending the education law relating to requiring
3 certain public school facilities to retain on premises at least one
4 functional cardiac automated external defibrillator, as proposed in
5 legislative bill number A.8779-A, is amended to read as follows:
6 S 917. On-site cardiac automated external defibrillator. 1. {Public
7 school facilities which accommodate one thousand or more persons} SCHOOL
8 DISTRICTS, BOARDS OF COOPERATIVE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES, COUNTY VOCATIONAL
9 EDUCATION AND EXTENSION BOARDS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS shall provide and
10 maintain on-site IN EACH INSTRUCTIONAL SCHOOL FACILITY automated
11 external defibrillator (AED) equipment, as defined in paragraph (a) of
12 subdivision one of section three thousand-b of the public health law, in
13 quantities AND TYPES deemed by the commissioner in consultation with the
14 commissioner of health to be adequate to ensure ready AND APPROPRIATE
15 access for use during emergencies.
16 2. Whenever public school facilities pursuant to subdivision one of
17 this section are used for school sponsored or school approved CURRICULAR
18 OR EXTRACURRICULAR EVENTS OR activities AND WHENEVER A SCHOOL-SPONSORED
19 ATHLETIC CONTEST IS HELD AT ANY LOCATION, the {administration of} PUBLIC
20 SCHOOL OFFICIALS AND ADMINISTRATORS RESPONSIBLE FOR such school facility
21 OR ATHLETIC CONTEST shall ensure the presence of at least one staff
22 person who is trained, pursuant to paragraph (a) of subdivision three of
23 section three thousand-b of the public health law, in the operation and
24 use of an AED. WHERE A SCHOOL-SPONSORED COMPETITIVE ATHLETIC EVENT IS

SCATS said...

To 7:59PM ~~ That IS an odd idea. Why didn't I think of it? Hmmm ... TY.

To 8:39PM ~~ That law doesn't mention anything about possessing a key to access it, but it does mention "functional." I guess at least having one decorate the wall in a box fulfills the legal requirement.

Big Meow said...

That guard was subjected to and passed the same physical condition evaluation Sports District bus monitor Karen did. In point of fact, the Guard scored higher on evaluation testing than Karen did.

It wasn't in his job description to jump in and break up fights between young punks the Sports District is mandated to have hanging around our fine buildings to qualify to compete in sporting events. If he would have done his job and guarded the Fire Extinguisher and balls he wouldn't have had the Heart Attack. He went beyond his job description and suffered consequences beyond the District's control. Karen stayed within her job description and did not have a Heart Attack. GCSD employees who stay within their job descriptions rarely have Heart Attacks.

You want to do something for this guard laying comfortably in a hospital bed collecting Workman's Comp, start a dam Go Fund Me thing. I don't care what you do puttitat, as long as you stay out of my business. It's the Holiday (approved term) season and I have parties to attend as well as a hair appointment and a nail appointment. My schedule is FULL. I don't paw around in your litter box, and you don't need to be pawing in mine.

DON'T force me to address this issue again unless you want to be assigned to mousing in the Jr High boys locker room.
I am the BIG Kat on this block, not you
Kat

Anonymous said...

Congratulations 2:09 and 8:27your comments are representative of the spirit of Christmas in Grrrrrece NY

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what the problem with the AED was? Did it not power up? Did it not have patches? Etc?

SCATS said...

To 5:30AM ~~ The tone is set by the POWERS THAT BE ;)

To 8:38AM ~~ I've heard there were several issues, including getting a key to retrieve it from its locked box on the wall.

Big Meow said...

Look, the Law says we gotta have the AED & maintain means we gotta keep it. Millions of kids lived through school before those things, we could spend that money on balls, but some politician says we gotta have it.

How the hell do you expect us to keep it on the damn crappy wall if it ain't locked there people? Your damn monsters would have that thing in a pawn shop in under an hour if we didn't lock it. You got any idea how much the SD spends paying AED qualified employees so you can have your silly community meetings in SD buildings? Gotta be one so you can use OUR building, it's LAW.

Get over it, The guard screwed up sticking his nose in a place it didn't belong. It ain't the Thingamabob's fault and it damn sure ain't the Sport Districts fault, and it damn sure ain't my fault. Go play with your pine trees, I have a vacation to get packed for.

And Scats turn that damn robot thing off. I'm a human for cripe sake.

Kat

Anonymous said...

Read the WHAM story, how the hell many Nurses are we paying for in that building?

I sure hope they locked the drug cabinet before they went waddling to help the Guard guy.

Anonymous said...

So was there actually something wrong with the AED or was it just locked? Is it District policy to keep them locked? Who has keys? Was there a incident that led to them being locked? Most AED's in public places have very annoying alarms when the door is opened to retrieve it.

SCATS said...

To 8:35PM ~~ It didn't work as it should. AND it was locked up, too. Seconds count in these situations.

Anonymous said...

Ok like I asked how did it not work as it should? From what I'm getting here is it sounds like I heard from someone who heard from some one else who heard from someone who was there. If your going to say it didn't work as it should, tell me the facts.

SCATS said...

To 11:46AM ~~ It did NOT work and it has been reported that was the case. What the issue/s were have not been elaborated. No one has said that it did work, or that it saved this man's life.

Anonymous said...

The Truth will never be known - because the resultant lawsuit would be huge and the District must protect itself. Why are there no media interviews of others present who were truly the first on scene - those who assisted before nurses and security actually arrived! If this District wants to prove the position they have put forth in media blitzes, then they must also provide supportive facts such as: the AEDS(two used?) data downloads, the results of non District personnel interviews, the timeline, video, and any other supportive facts.
FAILURE TO PROVIDE THESE FACTS IS EVIDENCE THEY DONT EXIST AND REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING STINKY HERE.

SCATS said...

To 5:37PM ~~ They gave their pre-scripted "exclusive" interview to WHAM. That tells me all I need to know. WHAM always does the district's bidding.

Anonymous said...

Ask the Principal or is he just another kiss-ass that does what all those women in higher office want him to do. He has been relieved of his manhood if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

There's always the old Rock Wall statement that the issue can not be talked about because it's a personnel matter.

Anonymous said...

Folks...you are all missing the point here...the man is alive because of the response of the trained medical professionals, including the nurses employed by the district. Processes and machines fail sometimes but the individuals who responded must be commended. My thoughts and prayers are with the guard's family for a speedy recovery. Happy Holidays.

SCATS said...

To 8:28AM ~~ Actually, not true. They did their job as best as they could given that the LIFE-SAVING EQUIPMENT FAILED. If you were in his shoes (or on his stretcher) would you want to rely upon CPR instead of the AED at such a critical moment?? I wonder how many broken ribs he has ... unnecessarily broken at that ?

Anonymous said...

He's alive. Broken ribs are a welcomed side effect if I am in his situation. If this happened in his driveway shoveling snow, the outcome would likely have been different. Thankfully the nurses kept him alive until EMTs arrived.

SCATS said...

To 2:54PM ~~ Now YOU MISSED THE POINT. With a FUNCTIONAL AED unit, no broken ribs! (Or potential lawsuits!)

Anonymous said...

The question seems to be was the AED the necessary life saving system in this case?

An AED does not and can not perform CPR.

An AED would have been of no value to the patient if CPR was necessary.

Do the taxpayers not spend money teaching CPR to students?

How many paid school employees are CPR Qualified?

Sorry folks, but you go an hour from Rochester and your life well may be saved by some 16 year old farm kids staffing a Fire Department Ambulance. They CAN and WILL get you to the Hospital alive.

Lets call this one as it is; MORE STUPID brought to you by Greece Central Sports District. GCSD should be on their knees offering thanks 16 year old members of the Alexander FD Ambulance team weren't visiting. Their learned skills would have embarrassed GCSD on camera with interviews of well schooled kids.

Dirk Diggler said...

User error?

SCATS said...

Dirk ~~ They aren't talking.

QUESTION ~~ Is it appropriate to keep this piece of equipment locked up? Doesn't that take time away from helping the individual? How many have keys? Is there always someone with a key nearby/on duty?

Anonymous said...

Where is the data? I have asked multiple times about what the comparison of data from the supposed failed GCSD AED and the supposed 2nd GVA/NGFD AED show. And what MCHD interviews of witnesses provides in terms of time line, professionalism, and administrative letters of record in employee files from the resultant investigation?
The man is alive. Thanks to all who saved him! But who's gonna take the hit when lawsuits begin to appear for negligence, failure to perform, and obstruction?
There is way too much posted fodder, accusations, and two stepping by the District to think this is not a real problem for their AED program, one senior security, one director of security, some nurses, a custodian and others for any marginally competent attorney to really make life h3!!.

SCATS said...

To 5:13PM ~~ Most telling of all is GCSD's failure to deny a problem happened.

GCSD said...

Look pussicat; that employee should have known he was too sick to come to work that day and stayed home to prevent spreading his illness to others in District employ. We are a Sports District, and need our employees in top shape when they are at work. Lord knows our teachers and other professionals stay home at the slightest sniffle to protect both employees and athletes.

Why is it the District's problem some goob guard who is more than old enough to know he ain't 100% ready, willing and able to work comes in anyhow to make a few bucks and falls down on the job? It's not like we collect State Aid for him being in the building.

Just drop it, I'm on VaCa, and plan to have fun. Besides, the sick old goob ain't something I can address because it's a personnel matter.

Have a happy holiday, if that's your choice, or not as your whim strikes you, and if it's in your tradition may your presents be what you want.

Super Kat

Anonymous said...

Get over it people.
You don't see a bunch of taxpayers complaining in this story.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/12/08/teen-charged-in-assault-on-st-paul-high-school-teacher/

Greece needs to get tough. Taxpayers need to get ready for flying UNION teachers learning wrestling moves.
Toughen up Buttercup!

Anonymous said...

What is a hot rod ranch?

Anonymous said...

The hot rod ranch is somewhere town and county employees work at for super bill to get promotions?

Anonymous said...

The Hot Rod Ranch is Bill Reilich's personal car collection and museum located at 299 Swamp Road in the Town of Sweeden. It is protected by Doyle Alarm the company that bought Reilich's alarm company when he had to divest.

It is where many truck loads of County asphalt millings stored at Mount Kintz Memorial Recreation Center were hauled by R&W to expand the museum parking lot after it was announced the millings were free to anyone who could haul them. Oddly loading only seemed available for R&W trucks. All loading was scheduled through Kirkiepoo's office.

There is nothing to see at Hot Rod Ranch unless you are an invited guest or the Tax Collector.