Smarter CATS BLOG with "SCATS" - Smarter Citizens for Accountability in the Town & Schools
AS MANY AS IT TAKES,! THIS SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO THE BAD GUYS. IF COME TO OUR TOWN TO COMMIT. A CRIME, WE WILL RUN YOU DOWN WITH EVERYTHING WE GOT AND THEN SOME.
I figured you'd have a gripe with this. If there was just a few cops and the guy got away you'd gripe about that too. In your eyes, the cops are never right.
To 6:14PM ~~ If it takes 30 cars/cops, or the 40-50 that others reported, then there is but one simple conclusion the logical will come to: WE HAVE TOO MANY COPS!!!Good thing they didn't kill some innocent bystander with this nearly HOUR LONG chase through the hoods of Greece. Then YOU would be whining.
To 5:21PM ~~ I suggest we build a wall ... :) Then no one will have to worry about a high speed chase that circles three times through the SAME neighborhood. The more cars involved, the riskier the situation becomes.
I agree, it was excessive. Not to mention the undercovers or plain clothes police vehicles who only had grill lights flashing. THAT, imo, was unecessary. I saw an angle of a video where a car that was stopped as 30 flew by started to pull out only to swerve to miss being hit by one of those all black cars with only front flashers going. After 30+ had gone by me, I'd have assumed it was okay to start going myself. Ooo wish I was there and that had happened! Ca-ching. My neck, my back!!
I agree with SCATS 100%. Way too many Cops! What the heck, were they all sitting idle drinking coffee when the call went out? Nothing else important going on? I head from a witness that the endless parade of Cop cars zooming by could have caused a major accident! No regard for public safety. Way too many joining in the chase....I heard conflicting stories, 30, 40, 50 cop cars? The first seven or eight lead cars in the chase would have been enough to safely apprehend the suspect!
Only requires 1 Boss from the City and 1 Boss from Greece to leash those Departments. The Troopers will just keep chasing till they manage to kill somebody like they did a few years back over West of here.From the Police side, it's paid entertainment. With digital radio no civilian will know if a Boss called it down or not.Wild West show. Must have been too windy for the SP Helicopter to play too.
You can speculate all you want and throw all the WHAT IFS but the simple fact no one got hurt. Other than some lawn jobs and garbage cans and damage to some police vehicles, no property damage. This guy needed to be stopped as he obvious had gone primal with an overwhelming fright flight syndrome and a total loss of reality. He had one uncontrolled able goal, GET WAY. In that state of mind, he would have taken out anything or anyone who got in his way. He had totally lost it and now had lost control and was driving a lethal weapon.HE NEEDED TO BE STOPPED No matter what resources were committed to stop himScats, regarding too many cops. Not true. If anything we need more.
To 9:25AM ~~ But for the grace of God, nobody got hurt! I was in that Walgreens lot one day prior and am damned giddy that I wasn't there in the midst of this avoidable mayhem. As someone else stated, if just ONE of those dozens of cop cars spun out, there would be an outcry like you never heard before! And you know it was overkill if we can afford 30+ cops to bring in one felon. I hear rumors today that three Dunkin' Donuts & two Tim Horton's located between Culver Rd & Latta/Long Pond are filing for bankruptcy today due to loss of business by the cops involved in the chase yesterday. (JUST KIDDING!)BTW, he wasn't "primal with an overwhelming fright flight syndrome" UNTIL HE WAS BEING CHASED BY AN ARMY OF POLICE CARS! As I recall, Baxter had a "chase only while keeping the public safe" order he stood by. Even then there were accidents.
Scats I disagree with your assessment of what caused this guy to completely loose it mentally. I doubt that had any idea of the number of cars chasing him. He obviously wasn't counting them as he went ballistic. All he knew or in fact mattered is the fact he was aware of the car behind him which stood between capture or escape. A rational mind aware of the extent of those in pursuit, would have realized the futility of his ability to succeed and give up. Once he decided to run in the city, he was a disaster waiting to happen and had to be taken out. The number of pursuers was irrelevant as far as he was concerned.
Baxter was fraud.and a politician . He knew how to manipulate the press and say the right thing even if he didn't believe what he told.them He simply told them what they and you And the rest of the public wanted to hear. It was the politically correct thing to do. Might I remind you he also told the press that they were close making an arrest in the Holiday Inn fire. Need I say more?
It was excessive and thank God no one was injured. I was one of the people who got a lawn job as did others in the neighborhood. Thought there was to be no high speed chases like this. Very busy and high traffic area of Greece and also neighborhood tract. Talked to a few people who said police were driving at a very high rate of speed in pursuit and others were racing down streets attempting to block off. It was like a parade of police cars and also thankful that this did not take place later in afternoon while buses were dropping off kids as I don't believe the cops would have backed off then either. They don't seem to have common sense to de-escalate situations anymore. Yes it does seem like we have way to many cops here in Greece and how do they justify all the overtime they get as most make in the 120,00+ range and if you don't believe me look it up on the town payroll. So just what is the chase policy?
To 9:12Listened to the whole thing unfold on my scanner! Spend a few KITTYBUCKS more and you can hear all - just like me. Community County wide threat! Strong Arm, violent multiple offender, drug addled, and looking to DIE!
To 12:02PM ~~ Let's face it, there were TOO MANY TO COUNT! Of course the number of pursuers is relevant! How can we afford to use what we are supposed to believe are limited resources (first responders) in such numbers and without limits to capture ONE LONE FELON??? Most of these cops were FOLLOWING EACH OTHER IN SINGLE FILE AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. When they stopped his car, at least 3/4 of the cops had nothing to do but WATCH.The bigger question is: In such a situation, what is the minimum number of cops/cars necessary to get the job done? And the follow-up question should be: How many calls to 911 had to wait longer to get a response because so many cops were chasing one drugged-out A-hole?To 2:20PM ~~ As if the DA and her political shenanigans don't figure into the picture big-time!!!To 4:27PM ~~ Me Chief hasn't made a peep, so we don't know if there is such a policy under his watch. Please let us know WHO/WHEN your damaged lawn gets repaired. I'd be calling the Town and asking ASAP ;)To 5:08PM ~~ Yup, a single bullet between the eyes would have done the job a lot more safely, not to mention inexpensively. Now we get to foot the bill for his NEXT rehab program.
The Great thing in this event the Children were all in School and no one was shot or hit by a Police Car. Should have never got in to Greece from the City. Not that deep in to the 4th Ward Apple grove in Greece.
Scats Your blog your opinion. Fortunately not all of us share your thinking about the status of law enforcement in this community. Anyone who follows this site is aware of your personal negativity and that of your supporters on this topic. Fortunately those of us in the majority don't share your views and appreciate the job our boys and girls in blue are doing in these most of difficult times to be a member of that profession that comes to work every day willing to take that BULLET BETWEEN THE EYES in defense of those they swore to serve and protect.
They screwed up the arrest from the start so Baxter is staying under the radar........ The initial planning to capture him at the initial location was tactically flawed - Good Police work? Someone at Baxter level needs to answer if this type of chase through residential areas is standard procedure?Wow! I have also seen the $120K+ salaries and am appalled! That's only salary and not the $$thousands more to outfit each officer, expensive vehicles (Idling for hours on end) and total benefits packaged making it possible to retire after 20 years of service with health care costs covered for life. The unions really do a great job sucking the taxpayers for all they are worth. The political elected elites that are supposed to manage our money are all gutless wimps! Out tax are already the highest in the nation. Based on the overall type and crime rate, there is a lot of fat that can be and should be trimmed........
To 8:50AM ~~ Yup, our BLOG, our opinion and yours too! Better stay vigilant since your "majority" is shrinking faster each day! Just watch the national news and almost daily, there's ANOTHER story of EXCESSIVE FORCE in the headlines. I was especially interested in the one this past week about the man they TASED TO DEATH in front of a hospital!! They actually dragged him in handcuffs back inside the cruiser to finish off what they started at the ER entrance. The taser logs showed the VICTIM received over 50 jolts before he died. GREAT JOB.To 11:03AM ~~ Ahem ... you have fallen behind. Baxter has been gone since Reilich gave him the boot. Phelan is the top cop now. I agree, this chase should never have gone on for so long. It's AMAZING no bystanders were maimed or killed.
It's not "our blog, our opinion." You decide what gets posted and what is rejected.
To 1:05PM ~~ There's more than one person running the BLOG, so it is OUR opinion ;)
Yep your right on this one. It's all about the media inspired war on cops. Your blog is an example. This is why nationwide there has been a 47% drop in applications for this position science last year. They don't want the jobs even if it pays $120 m . Being placed under a microscope by irresponsible reporting while performing a dangerous job is just not worth it. It won't be too long before more and more departments merge into one department. I was of the opinion this was going to happen anyway because of excessive duplication in services and the ever rising cost to run smaller departments. Now it appears it will happen due to a serious lack of manpower instead.
To 2:59PM ~~ Gimme a break!! We've outfitted these guys with MILITARY GEAR which they now use against innocent citizens in increasing numbers of incidents. Wanna go for a ride in the back of a Baltimore paddy wagon?? NO ?? I didn't think so!!!If they need to merge anyway, does it really matter why as long as the job gets done?
Well a big DOH Applegrove residents and GCSD Diploma holders!http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S3963014.shtml?cat=565Ask the nice reporter for the Popo report number, obtain the name of the Insurance carrier and initiate a claim. If the carrier don't pay file in Small Claims Court, take a copy of the Popo report with you to Court and the Judge guy in the black dress will give you the award, and the Insurance carrier will pay.Lets get with the program people.
As I suspected, I knew you wouldn't approve my post asking what the standard and criteria is for approving a post. You're a hypocrite and a coward.
To 10:31PM ~~ I've double-checked all files and have no record of any such previous comment. Sorry. While I doubt that it's related, the internet was out for a number of hours here over the weekend.
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