Wednesday, October 21, 2015

GPD Promotions Include New Deputy Chief


At tonight's Greece Town Board meeting, Chief Phelan swore in Brian Larkin as a new police officer and four members of the department were promoted. The promotions included Casey Voelkl to Deputy Chief, Chuck St. John to Lieutenant and Sengova Sandi and Bryan Root to Sergeant. 


 

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amazing what all the promotions you can get when your daddy is a former Brighton Chief. Boy Wonder doesn't deserve his promotion. Pays to suck up doesn't it scats?

Anonymous said...

Isn't that just SPECIAL.

Why do they all look like they need sither a tailor or suspenders to get their pants right?

Did everybody other than MeChief and the AA guy get complementary haircuts in the Tax Office and need to shave their head for the picture?

Anonymous said...

Greece, the Father & Son Police Defartment.

The tradition continues.

Degnin & Cubiotti spring immediately to mind.
Greece benefited from Baby Joseph and Piglet too.

Rahn sent his baby boy to Irondequoit to screw up.

Greece is a nice little family business.

Anonymous said...

No doubt promotions were rewards for thier outstanding work they did on the Holiday Inn fire cold case investigation. Unfortunately their efforts resulted in new evidence that the D A would not even try to get an indictment in an election year. One would think that if she had the slightest chance to at least get an indictment , it would be a feather in her hair going into her reelection bid. I think it would be fair to conclude that after having the case dumped in her lap over 3 months ago, she had little or nothing to present to a Grand Jury to make the case for an indictment based on circumstancial evidence without looking foolish.
Unfortunately for the Town of Greece, this black mark unsupported by evidence, will forever be a stain on the reputation of the town forever.
Two powerful town officials, will forever be responsible for this horrific tragic accident carrying the label as an arson homicide as it will haunt this town forever because of the decision made by these officials to be designated as such even no evidence supporting this designation existed at the time it took place and as a result of the recently completed current investigation.
I believe history will support these facts and rightfully place the blame at the feet of these two individules who acted as they did due to personal and political motivations.

SCATS said...

To 3:53PM ~~ You just can't stop reading this BLOG, can you Joe? lol

Anonymous said...

Would the forensic scientist please identify themselves? The ATF laboratory in Virginia concluded arson in 2011. Regardless of how you feel those are the facts. Much of the case was never released obviously, but that information was made public.

SCATS said...

To 7:13AM ~~ You must realize that a few old-timers just can't let go of their beliefs, not even in the face of NEW evidence brought forth by modern TECHNOLOGY ;)

Anonymous said...

I am not trying to stifle descent!! However, if someone is going to disagree with the forensic analysis done at the ATF laboratory they better have the proper qualifications to do so!! Therefore, a PhD in Thermodynamics or Forensic Chemistry would be an expectation. The unfortunately reality is that much of Greece logic has absolutely no scientific basis!! Because someone holds a "Greece title" that doesn't make them a scientist. Especially when they are stating baseless assumptions that directly contradict real scientific conclusions.

SCATS said...

To 12:45PM ~~ I was AGREEING with you!

Anonymous said...

12:45 you don't need a Ph.D. To know that the combination of MEK and Acetone vapors in a relativity small contained area will by their own chemical composition result in an explosive spontaneous combustion as was the situation that existed at the time of this fire...Check it out yourself on Google. As far as the Virginia Lab goes, I don't recall them ever identifying the substances they anyalized as being the cause of the fire. I suspect that they were sent samples of both solvents to analyze and obtained the obvious result. In addition it would be prudent to be aware of the fact that this fire was declared an arson long before the laboratory analysis was revealed. That conclusion and designation
was determined less than 24 hours after the fire by those in charge at the time. The ATF involvement was after the fact as a CYA action.

SCATS said...

To 1:42PM ~~ Re: " I don't recall them ever identifying the substances they anyalized as being the cause of the fire."

Baxter told us they did.

Anonymous said...

No matter whether or not you believe this fire was an arson or not, one fact is becoming more and more obvious. The alleged. Suspect will NEVER be charged with committing the crime The reason, the inability of the cops to gather enough evidence to make even a circumstantial case against him that would result in an indictment let alone a conviction. If the evidence were there it's a safe bet that the DA Would have moved on this case by now especially this being an election year. If this was a crime as alleged, I think that no one will ever be charged or convicted of committing this act.

SCATS said...

To 3:35PM ~~ I think what's become more obvious is the POLITICS INVOLVED! This DA wouldn't dare take action DURING AN ELECTION YEAR! My God, have you forgotten she did the Monroe County "party flip" just earlier this year??

Anonymous said...

Ai beg to disagree regardless of her political double cross , if there was a viable case here , it would better serve her political ambitions by moving forward and at least get an indictment prior to the election. By not moving forward , I believe it would be fair to conclude that a viable
Situation did not exist thus no movement on her part. Add to that the fact that the local media appears silent on her lack of action giving her a pass .

SCATS said...

To 5:43PM ~~ LMAO @ silence of local media!! They are SILENT on nearly anything meaningful! AND they are often CONTROLLED BY THE POLITICIANS, too!

Anonymous said...

OK I GET IT Scats. You are finally coming to terms with the fact that Bud Phillps is never going to be arrested, charged, indicted and convicted as the person responsible for the fire and the resulting deaths. It is obvious to me that you will continue to believe this fire was the crime of arson and multiple homicides.Thats your right to be entitled to firmly believe your opinion dispite the differing opinions of others.
Having said that, I will return to my opening remark regarding the fate of the prime suspect
Confronted with the stated results of the alleged suspect, it's time to project your personal beliefs as to why this didn't happen as it should have in your personal thinking, it's now time to affix the blame on why this did not happen as you.thought it should. So whose to blame in your mind that kept this from happening as you saw it? The answer is beginning to emerge That answer, the POLITICS OF MONROE CO.Why not, they are as good a target as anyone else to blame for justice not being served.

SCATS said...

To 11:37AM ~~ What the heck do you mean by "Confronted with the stated results of the alleged suspect ..." ??

The last part of that sentence requires understanding the first part!

Anonymous said...

That comment refers to the info contained in the first sentence of my comment not actual fact. I can see the problem and could have better connected the sentence in question with my first sentence .

Anonymous said...

To 10/26/2015 1:42 PM

As an attorney, specifically a prosecutor, and more importantly defending my client - I would ask why MEK was on the site of an alleged FIRE, ARSON, MURDER. That has always been a nagging question for me. A non natural occurring chemical with little value to a hotel/motel chain!? But critical to the manufacture of film.

SCATS said...

To 5:15PM ~~ THAT is the $64,000 question!! It makes for a wonderful accelerant though.

Anonymous said...

MEK is routinely used as a wax dissolving stripper by large commercial operations. It is used to remove access wax build up on floors . Too many layers of wax tend to give floors a yellowing color. Therefore, before that happens MEK is used as a wax stripper because of its wax dissolving properties prior to a new coat of wax being applied..

Anonymous said...

Did you seriously think that Doorley would do anything? What a joke she is!!!

SCATS said...

To 11:09AM ~~ My wife would love it if you'd come over & clean the floors!

To 1:21PM ~~ She's a HUGE disappointment! Look at the Charlie Tan case/trial and you'll see incompetance, inconsistencies and wasted time & money.

Anonymous said...

1:42 you need to revisit Chem class.
Butanone a/k/a MEK is an effective and common solvent and is used in processes involving gums, resins, cellulose acetate and nitrocellulose coatings and in vinyl films. For this reason it finds use in the manufacture of plastics, textiles, in the production of paraffin wax, and in household products such as lacquer, varnishes, paint remover, a denaturing agent for denatured alcohol, glues, and as a cleaning agent. It has similar solvent properties to acetone but boils at a higher temperature and has a significantly slower evaporation rate. Butanone is also used in dry erase markers as the solvent of the erasable dye.

MEK also occurs in trace quantities naturally.

Your reference to MEK being used in film manufacture is the wrong fork in the road. MEK is used in manufacturing VINYL films, NOT the film Kodak made.

SCATS, you can call MEK a "wonderful accelerant" BUT using MEK in that manner for Arson would very likely kill the arsonist in place. MEK flames off at a much faster burn rate than gasoline, damn near explosive, and would have delivered a shock wave which would have been highly noticeable, probably blowing windows out of the building.

You also need to remember this was a large construction site at the time of the fire, and MEK was then readily available in Rochester as a surplus solvent. It could have been on the job as either a component of paint remover or as a solvent being used to soften flooring mastic. Such occurrences were not unusual in that time frame, unlike the current OSHA controlled environment.

There still remains the nagging QUESTION; Could the trace MEK residue have come from the mattresses that were stashed in the South stairway?

SCATS said...

To 2:14PM ~~ Re: "SCATS, you can call MEK a "wonderful accelerant" BUT using MEK in that manner for Arson would very likely kill the arsonist in place."

I can and do call it the same despite your rhetoric. A cigarette can be flipped from quite a distance.

Anonymous said...

Reach across the litterbox to the laptop and research the burn speed of MEK -v- gasoline.

Also check the vaporization temperature of MEK -v- gasoline.

With that in mind, visualize pouring time over an area, vaporization during that time, burn speed and initial fireball from MEK mixed into the confined atmosphere, as you ponder where you want to flick that cigarette from. Even a very fast cat would have ignited fur.

You want to meow about using a book of matches and a 100mm cigarette for a time delay now?

How about meowing about why Wonderful Wonderfall was removed from the Mall right after Wilmorite was made aware of how hot all that Glycerin rolling down the fish line could become with the addition of 1 chemical?
Fires regularly occur due to human oversight failures.
Experts don't generally have all the answers until experiments yield comparables.

Anonymous said...

Lots of ideas but has anyone actually read the ATF report? I don't believe it has ever been released. So after all who here really knows WHY they determined the fire to be arson or what materials were actually tested. There might be some very solid evidence that was sent to the lab. Perhaps who actually set might be the only X value in the equation.

Anonymous said...

Hey KittyCaty, since it's Haloween, how about we have a captioning contest for that picture of MeChief and his band of incompetents?

Maybe we can draw maps to the house on Dorsey where MeChief grew up and studied to be a SuperCop at Dada Chief's knee. If you stop by that house a man pretending he was once a cop will give you candy.

SCATS said...

To 8:41PM ~~ Upon posting it, I ALMOST captioned it "Men In Black."

Feel free to call it whatever you like. I got candy to hand out to the progeny of fellow tax payers.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps revisiting Chem 101 is necessary for someone posting here.

Burn rate is not constant - environment, dilutants, and volumes/density are factors. Natural gas will only explode under certain air/fuel ratios - that's why your stove and furnace works and doesn't blow up!!!

Kodak made film with three types of support. Mek is instrumental in the manufacture of the two still currently produced. The third went away when the plant experienced a major explosion and fire many tears ago.

Remember the Force - it seems greater than you young Jedi Jackass!

Anonymous said...

All these smarter than you comments about the chemistry of MEK while enlightening and interesting reading, seems to back up the volatility of this substance under certain conditions . However, the facts about MEK and Acetone only leads to one conclusion regarding the Holiday Inn fire since both were found in the primary burn area of the building a relatively small confined area. The city arson investigators concluded that these two chemicals were the cause of the fire on the night of the fire.
I'm no chemist but I did do some reading on the web regarding the possible volatile interactions of these compounds when located in close proximity to each other. Accordingly, the vapors of the two combined in a small confined location, create a potential explosive condition with a low flash point. The article stated that static electricity would be enough to cause them to ignite. That would mean that any kind of small spark eminating from the turning on or off of a light switch , short circuit, dry environmental conditions causing a small amount of friction, could produce a reaction. Of course a cigarette or match would work too.
Since containers containing these two substances were found at the origin of thr fire, it would be fair to conclude that either one or both contributed to the origin of the fire either by spontaneous combustion or human activity. Obviously, human activity has been blamed for this combustion and a crime of murder by arson.

SCATS said...

To 9:41AM ~~ Anyone uneducated enough to store such things like that deserves the arson charge!

Anonymous said...

Any Town Building Department stupid enough to allow storage of flammable materials in a stair tower of an occupied building during construction so the contractor doesn't need to rent another storage trailer is clearly negligent.

If that screwup can be swept under the rug, the Town avoids liability for its screwup.

Anonymous said...

12:32. You have hit the nail right on the head. The town building department had just did a fire code inspection a week before and noticed two violation. One, a blocked fire exit door, the other ,cleaning supplies under a stairwell. They past the hotel given a promise from management to correct the problems ASAP. they never went back to check and on the night of the fire, both conditions still existed with exception of the cleaning supplies under the stairwell which had burned.
That's why the hasty rush to judgment by town officials to label it an arson rather than a naturally caused fire. It had become a question of liability by the town or criminal act which made a big difference when it came to future law suits and big bucks. This under the rug job was rhe biggest ever committed by any administration in the town and will take some doing to top this by future administration cover ups. The biggest outcome, they got away with it and still continue to do so. . The biggest losers, those who died and the reputation of this town on into eternity. The winners, the elected and appointed officials of Greece who were and still are the criminals in this successful cover up.The only coverup that came close, was the Auburger cover up in the Joseph/ Pignato scandal.

SCATS said...

To 2:01PM ~~ If I were to believe your version, it leaves me unable to understand why Bud suddenly stopped "cooperating" ...

Anonymous said...

Scats from the source. Bud cooperated for quite awhile. Remember, the official designation attached to him at this time was" a person of interest". When it became obviuos to him that even though that designation continued to be applied for many years, when Baxter reopened the case under pressure , it became obvious to Bud that even though not labeled as such, his status had changed to that of a " suspect".
At that time he sought legal advise and was told by his attorney that he also believed the investigators now considered him a suspect. This now changed the legal ground rules regarding self incrimination and he was told not to cooperate with cops anymore for obvious 5th Amenment reasons. Actually, he should have long ago asked the cops if he was considered a suspect at which time they would be obligated to tell him he was. This would have ended his cooperation at that moment.

SCATS said...

To 9:31AM ~~ LMAO! Such nitpicking and the terminology isn't even legit. Sometime ago, I researched the "person of interest" phrase vs "suspect" tag. Guess what I found? "Person of interest" is a phrase coined BY THE MEDIA, and has NO LEGAL BASIS at all. For all intents & purposes, they are one in the same ;)

Anonymous said...

WRONG! You and your sources are dead wrong. Any attorney would agree. A person of interest may be questioned by police without being
Mirandized unless he asked a very simple question like"am I a suspect? If so I want a lawyer. Now the cops must do one of two things in addition to stopping the interrogation. At that time they have but two answers. Yes you are a suspect and grant his request for a lawyer. And await the arrival of the attorney before asking another question and read his Miranda Rights. Once the attorney arrives he will ask if his client was under arrest.and Mirandized. If the answer is no he is not than this interrogation is over and we are free to leave at once.
In reality in Buds case that night when he was grilled.over 14 hrs straight, the cops broke two of his rights. One, not to be questioned for longer than 4 hrs without being arrested, Mirandized or told he was free to leave. That being said, He could have ended that interrogation at any time by asking the relevant question.
In Buds case, I the mind of the top official at the scene that night when he found out that he called in the fire and was first on the scene, he was the only suspect and was Quilty of setting the fire even before it was labeled an arson.

SCATS said...

To 4:04PM ~~ No, I am not wrong! Look it up yourself. A suspect has meaning under the law & a legal definition. Person of interest does not and is thought to have been created by the media about 20 yrs. ago.

Anonymous said...

"Person of interest" and "Officer safety" are both convenient phrases employed by the Popo to avoid the inconveniences of not only Miranda but Ryan as well, which is a more stringent NY Ruling.

Cops have hours of training on the use of the proper words to employ so Miranda & Ryan don't attach to the sucker in handcuffs for "Officer safety". I'll gurandamntee most of the population ceases thinking straight the instant they are cuffed, and lacks the mental capacity to ask if they are a suspect. The "officer safety" crapola was allowed by the 9 robed wizards in DC as a way around Miranda.

Books are written, including one by the father of a Convicted former Greece Cop on how to get around the rules and conduct interrogations.

Always remember, the cop writes the report based on what he thinks you said. Unless you have your own recorder running, and the cop can't erase that recording, his version will wander as far from reality as a Greece Assessor's Property Inventory.

There is plenty of available room operating within the restrictions of Miranda and Ryan for a cop worthy of his pay to conduct investigations and bring suspects to the Bar of Justice. There is currently no incentive for most cops to make the effort, so they munch doughnuts and fake it.

SCATS said...

To 10:58PM ~~ Again, there is no legal definition for "person of interest" as there is for "suspect."

Anonymous said...

Ergo Mr Paws, "Person of interest" shall be employed to indicate the subject under discussion up until the moment of arrest, when said subject shall be cuffed up, placed into a custodial situation, read the Miranda card, given a complementary ride to the Police facility (after calling media), perp walked and processed. As part of trhe processing, said individual SUSPECT will be given a properly filled out Miranda form, again read the Miranda Warning, and asked if he/she speaks, understands, and reads American Standard English ( a stretch for most GCSD Graduates) and requested to sign the form so questioning can continue.

The entire process hinges on that one little word, SUSPECT. The use of the word SUSPECT by the Police, DA, Town Official or even Media can change the status of the person being looked at, and bring about Miranda.

The majority of persons in Law Enforcement will go to great lengths to avoid a person becoming a SUSPECT until it is absolutely necessary and all paperwork is completed and signed off by a Boss. A whole new environment and clock begins with that single word, SUSPECT.

Anonymous said...

The term person of interest did not exist at the time of the fire. It was not the media that created that terminology. It was in reality created by PDs to satisfy probing media questions about possible suspects. Other than the donut crap 10:58 makes one good point. If a cop slips a pair of cuffs on you, you are technically under arrest as he has just taken your freedom rights away from you. Person of interest on police reports has appeared in some cases in place of "persons with Knowledge or PK. Remember, Bud was never cuffed or arrested but he was still illegally detained in part by his failure to ask the question. AM I CONSIDERED A SUSPECT OR AM I UNDER ARREST. IF NOT THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER AND I AM FREE TO LEAVE? See ya!

SCATS said...

To 2:52AM ~~ Where are you quoting from??

To 8:54AM ~~ I agree that term didn't exist when the fire happened. I disagree about the media's role in creating/using the phrase. Again, look it up. It goes back to the Olympic park bombing era.