Friday, August 14, 2015

GREECE COP FIRED!


John Fogarty, 33, charged with 4th degree stalking & harassment after investigation of a "domestic situation"


Ex-Greece Cop, John Fogarty ~ WHEC

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh my,
The tradition continues.

Here we go again now,
Catch us if you can now.

Anonymous said...

Seems odd that the town would have the ability to immediatly fire him, or any Officer, without due process. Unless of course he was serving a probationary of some sort. He was charged, not convicted.

SCATS said...

To 9:12AM ~~ Yup, and there's a restraining order against him. I'm pretty sure no other local PD will hire him now.

Anonymous said...

Wonder who did the background investigation on this pos. With all of the testing, psych evaluations, The academy, Field training evaluations and other "observables" during the selection and training process It is inconceivable to me that this type of character flaw was not discovered. It is apparent that somebody is not doing their job. Lets recap just lately we have had several Police Officers in this town including the Chief of Police convicted of serious felonies. The one question I have is was this guy a transfer, was he a problem somewhere else. In my opinion when you have Police Officers involved in training new Police Officers and, these individuals are overseen by retired Police Officers it is apparent that something is terribly wrong with the process. Persons with character defects such as this are able to complete the process and be hired into a position of power and responsibility such as the position of Police Officer. The job is hard enough without this kind of stuff over and over. If you think people are losing respect for the office of police officer they probably are so straighten it out already.

Anonymous said...

He was on the job 7 years so it was Baxter who hired him.

Anonymous said...

To 3:12: Is anyone high enough to understand what you wrote?

Anonymous said...

I don't know how much a background check 7 yrs ago might be indicitve of these current charges. Stalking and harassment isn't ever ok. But I also thougt immediate firing was harsh for not being convicted yet.

SCATS said...

To 10:20PM ~~ As you already noted, what he did is NEVER permissable. The last thing GPD needs is another Pignato.

Anonymous said...

This could be as simple as the cop getting in a shouting match with a former girlfriend? Is the Information available anyplace?

Anonymous said...

Under civil service rules he is entitled to a hearing by an arbitrator . That is, if he asks for one. If he doesn't he's a goner .the town has gotten away with several dismissals because the officer through his union reps and lawyer didn't ask for one. As I recall even Rahn took it on the chin when Parrinello sold him out and never had a hearing that was promised. The problem is that even if the hearing officer sustains the charges and recommends punishment the town can still fire the cop regardless .the cops know this.

Anonymous said...

Relic can not. Fire anyone nor can he hire anyone. The law says that can only be done by the Town board who is the sole hiring and firing authority. In the case of Greece , I guess since in effect Relic is the town board it really doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree SCATS! I'd just like to know more details being that he was immediately fired and to my knowledge of law enforcement, there usually is a process involved. Maybe it was because of the PIGnato scandal the firing was immediate.
Then again, my knowledge of law enforcement comes from my family of police officers who are actually good cops.
And no, they aren't GPD officers. Not even in NY actually :)

Anonymous said...

My opinion is that the Chief and Supervisor did the right thing. When a person takes the job they swear an oath. The oath states that they swear to uphold the laws of our state and our country. Police Officers are given power over us. We break the law we get arrested by them. Violate the oath that you swore lose your job and go to jail.
Seems simple to me.

SCATS said...

To 1:08AM ~~ Doubtful it was just shouting when STALKING was one charge and a restraining order gotten.

To 10:56AM, 11:01AM & 11:40AM ~~ It says there was an investigation. Maybe that sufficed. Maybe this cop knew there was no reason to fight it. MAYBE getting fired let him off-the-hook for something worse than we will ever know. This is Greece ... where backroom deals are the specialite du jour ;)

Anonymous said...

New York Stalking Laws
Stalking
Penal Code § 120.45. Stalking in the fourth degree. 1999.
A person is guilty of stalking in the fourth degree when he or she intentionally, and for no legitimate purpose, engages in a course of conduct directed at
a specific person, and knows or reasonably should know that such conduct:
1. is likely to cause reasonable fear of material harm to the physical health, safety or property of such person, a member of such person's immediate family or a third party with whom such person is acquainted; or
2. causes material harm to the mental or emotional health of such person, where such conduct consists of following, telephoning or initiating communication or contact with such person, a member of such person's immediate family or a third party with whom such person is acquainted, and the actor was
previously clearly informed to cease that
conduct; or
3. is likely to cause such person to reasonably fear that his or her employment, business or career is threatened, where such conduct consists of appearing, telephoning or initiating communication or contact at such person's place of employment or business, and the actor was previously clearly informed to cease that conduct.
Stalking in the fourth degree is a class B misdemeanor

Pretty damn easy charge to make against the male in a former relationship SCATS.

SCATS said...

To 2:21PM ~~ It's MUCH easier to claim he "abused or battered" her.

Anonymous said...

How the mighty have fallen--

He should have stuck to playing music in Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Anonymous said...

Again, I agree. Who knows what really happened. I forgot for a second it's Greece.

Anonymous said...

And wait until you see who the ex girlfriend is.

SCATS said...

To 2:33PM ~~ Why not just tell us??

Anonymous said...

WHY isn't the Information available?

HOW does an Information disappear from Public Records?

I smell sum ting wong.

What politician's pal holster sniffer was playing boinkey boynk with the cop?

SCATS said...

To 4:53PM ~~ Because it hasn't been MADE available. Read this weekend's D&C about local PDs and how "transparent" some are compared to Greece. Greece is VERY tight-fisted, always has been. Remember, the more they feel the need to control, the more DYSFUNCTIONAL they are ;)

SCATS said...

I just heard an update on this story. It turns out this creep stalked the victim for THREE YEARS! Also, he pulled her over WHILE ON DUTY & dressed a cop, as part of his harassment.

Is he related to Pignato???

Anonymous said...

Took 3 years to be caught? What was going on in between ? Why 3 years? Anything they do wrong which is a lot. It takes them quite a while for it to come out to the public. I am sure their is more that had gone on since Rahn but kept hidden.

Anonymous said...

This dude was one of the last cops hired by Auburger before it hit the fan with Pig, Joseph Rahn. Baxter had nothing to do with this
Mercenary from Geneseo , 30 miles from Greece. He doubled his salary and happily made the 60 mile 390 trip even in the dead of winter.
Another one of little Caesar's pay to play hires gone horribly wrong and another stain on the town of Greece courtesyof the little big man who
has returned to the obscurity he came from.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised you're not posting her name.

Anonymous said...

The TRADITION lives on.
There once was a Greece Cop named Bobby.
He rode a motorcycle up and down Ridge Road.

He also had an arrangement with the owner of the Maple Leaf Motel.
Bobby gave many women their choice, follow me to the motel or get a ticket.

Bobby wore out the bed in that motel room, and the Town missed a lot of fine revenue.

Anonymous said...

Not so.the town only got.5% off the fine from the state . Your fairy tale is just that and no more and you know it ,Tiny Tom.

Anonymous said...

This guy had it made. If it's true he doubled his pay and. Benifits including lifetime health care. Now because of increased testosterone levels.
He blew it all. Absolutely mind.boggeling . It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some people will go in search of the Golden Fleece .

Anonymous said...

Tell ya what, I don't see it one bit different from how them girl cops we got treat men. Year or so back, my brother Larry and I went by the park to shag the kids back to the house cause supper time was comin on and it turned sorry real quick.
Me and Larry was attacked by a girl cop who drove right across the grass to get to us, not that we were doing a dang thing wrong. Wasn't our fault some woman dialed the 911 claiming there was 2 nekid men chasing kids in the park, that woman would have put her dang glasses on she'd have known we was both wearing bathing costumes, but her being vane probably prevented her from seeing.

That gal jumped out of that police car so dang quick the wheels were still rolling I tell you. Next thing I know other cops are runnin at us, and poor Larry is on the ground with that girl trying to yank his arm back so she can cuff him. Larrys got the frozen shoulder from a snake bite years back and usually has that arm slung, but on a hot day, well you get the picture. Poor Larry was in agony and crying like a child. The other cops come up and one asks me if I seen the nekid men? Looked at him sort of strange and asked what nekid men. Then I said how Larry's a cripple, and that girl was hurting him, so they got her loose from Larry and got Larry back on his feet, and I tell you that there girl cop was pissed.

She was always on Larry's or my tail for a few months after, reminding us to keep our mouths shut. I tell you a woman of such temper ought not be carrying a gun and roaring around in no dang police car. She even went by Larry's place and made him blow in a tube thing cause he was riding his power mower with a beer clamped in his bad hand.

Anonymous said...

Geez, and I thought 12:18 fairy tale was way out there but yours tops his by light years and then some.WOW,!you even left SCATs speechless on that whopper.

Anonymous said...

To quote Kimberly and Beck referencing Reilich "like him or not he sure knows how to take care of business!"

SCATS said...

To 4:05PM ~~ That's about as meaningless as it gets.

Anonymous said...

4:24 so are most rumors reported here.

SCATS said...

To 7:03PM ~~ In reality, very FEW rumors get reported here and we're proud of that record :)

Anonymous said...

Don't be surprised if he gets a LOT of MONEY for this. Town hall violated contract and Rules by not going through the DUE PROCESS steps. Remember this when it happens people.