Wednesday, April 15, 2015

Bigger GCSD Budget = Higher Taxes


 Charlie Hubbard said...

Think property taxes are not high enough? Think property taxes are having a negative effect on any economic resurgence of our area and town? Think the increase in state-aid was enough to put an end to more school tax increases? Well you are wrong. Your school district and school board last night made it very clear that THEY are not interested in cost containment. THEY do not think that THEY should be a part of making our town a leader of economical resurgence.
At this point I will use just 2 items.
Enrollment 'down'!!!
Spending 'up' over $$$ 7.5 MILLION $$$ and of course 'higher' property taxes to pay for it. This is what was approved by the school board - the rational? - it's ok because other districts want to do the same thing.
Greece 'residents' will have their voice on May 19th.
    

4/15/2015 7:14 AM
SCATS ~~ Yup, enrollments will be down another 150 (projected) but an extra $7.5 million is needed!?!? WHY??? This enormous $217+ million budget does NOT include buses or capital improvements!
    

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

All 3,000 of them

SCATS said...

To 2:29PM ~~ If that's all it takes, so be it. Everyone has their opportunity.

Anonymous said...

I warned you suckers!
Don't cry now.

No Stadium =
No education
AND
Empty wallets!

When I'm done you won't even have beer to cry in unless you find a flat swallow in one of the cans you're harvesting for pocket change.

The Empress will always win!
BABS

Anonymous said...

What is the explanation by the district for the increased budget. I assume they have one although I may be wrong

Anonymous said...

Does a no vote mean no tax increase?

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 5:39 - I hope you get some answers. Keep in mind there are 'wants' and there are 'needs'. There are several ways to reduce spending based on 'wants' and this would happen if the board had a mindset of representing taxpayers and realize school taxes are part of 'problem' of having one of the most 'undesirable' places for companies to locate.
We were led to believe that this big increase in state-aid would prevent property tax increases - no so when the mind set is to get as much as we can as long as we stay under the tax cap rather than curbing spending and or using NO tax increase as the target.
I readily admit my interest was peaked in Feb. when I asked what the 'cost' of having a special vote was. To this date we do not know. The point being this item was voted on without knowing the cost - WHAT? There is a mindset here that should concern us all.
So 5:39 I hope you ask the questions. I will predict the items driving the increase in spending are the result of board approval without knowing (on behalf of taxpayers) the cost and benefit PRIOR to approval. For sure it was not done in an open session thereby making it known for all to see.

Anonymous said...

Too bad there was no way to have a voter's referendum to mandate that the budgets need to be zero tax increase UNLESS a simple majority allows for a tax increased budget. I'd support spending the money to hold a referendum vote every year. Albert Ficus

SCATS said...

To Albert ~~ Seems to me that one vote could settle the issue with a properly worded proposal. Otherwise, a great idea! It could be added to this year's budget ballot for next year's marching orders to the BOE.

Anonymous said...

A great debate taking place here. I think a lost point is that there are no longer any corporate investments, via tax, that supports public education. The loss of jobs, especially higher paying manufacturing infrastructure that pays higher wages equating to higher taxes, property taxes, and involvement in the form of voluntary participation has bled off the ability of Public education to thrive. As private employers, you are not providing the jobs that enable a thriving local economy to sustain!

SCATS said...

To 6:08PM ~~ You forgot to mention the impact of COMIDA. Now, we allow companies to start-up tax-free, or tax-reduced in the "hopes" jobs will be created. There's a better chance the tooth fairy will pay your property taxes ;)

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 6:08 I hope you ask board members for justification for $7.5 MILLION budget increase for 150 FEWER students - then - ask when the items driving this increase was discussed in open session.
Spending and property taxes have made our area a laughing stock when compared to the rest of the country. Question, do voters (taxpayers) care? One thing we do know - public school administrators and school board(s) have demonstrated they do NOT care.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Charlie Hubbard, budget transparency and justification are not vocabulary words understood by board members and town officials! Why do we need so many new school buses each year, a extravagant stadium, all new police vehicles and a new police station when we are so far in debt already? I have not heard any good reasons. Property taxes here are excruciating high, the highest in the country as a percentage of property value. Most states south of here average around 1% of assessed valuation while Greece, NY is over 4%!!!! Apparently, many Greece taxpayers are either ignorant of this fact or have limited math skills.
I have yet to see any meaningful attempt to level, let alone reduce property taxes from any appointed leader. Continued spending and additional debt obligations guarantees Greece taxes will forever continue an upward spiral. What did Greece do to beat the 2% property tax cap? They conveniently masterminded a town-wide reassessment last year to not disrupt projected future spending. Many hundreds of homes were unjustifiably reassessed much higher than market value. Primary objective is to keep assessments as high as possible and not bring any further attention to our over 4% first place property tax rate trophy.
This habitual greedy driven mismanagement of taxpayer money will not cease until enough taxpayers revolt and tactfully inflict pain, and I mean real pain to our highly compensated "gravy sucking" political establishment.

SCATS said...

To 2:01PM ~~ And because of those RIDICULOUS ASSESSMENTS, homes aren't selling for anything close to their assessed value! In my area, they go on the market starting at least $5000 BELOW the assessment! At some point, this system will collapse as homeowners won't be able to justify the disparity between the asking beginning price & the assessment. Buyers will assume "Something is wrong with this house!"