Sunday, November 09, 2014

Officer-Involved Shooting In Home

  
 Anonymous said...

There was just (Sunday around noon) an officer-involved shooting in the town of Greece on Stone Rd. Scats, any info on that? (Sorry, to change the subject, wasn't sure how to start a new thread)      11/09/2014 12:23 PM

UPDATED ~~ According to the D&C ...

Greece Police Chief Patrick Phelan said an officer, while inside 1677 Stone Road, shot a man who allegedly pointed a gun at police.

The shooting occurred Sunday morning after Greece police and animal control officers were called to Stone Road, near Stone Ridge Drive, for a report of dogs running loose in the area, just before 11 a.m.

Phelan said officers located the dogs, two pit bulls, and officers went to the home where they believed their owner lived and found an "unusual circumstance." Phelan said the house was open, water was running and a stove was on.

A man inside the home pointed a gun at one of of the officers and the officer shot the man, who was not identified by police, he said.

The man was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital. He is alive, but the extent of his injuries were not immediately known, Phelan said. Greece police are working to identify the man, noting that it was unclear if the injured man was a resident or the dog owner.

"All we know is that he was inside the house," Phelan said, adding that it remained unclear if anyone else was inside the home, a rental property.

Phelan said the officer was not physically hurt in the incident. The pit bulls were taken into custody.

A portion of Stone Road was closed to traffic for much of Sunday and is expected to remain closed into the night as police investigate, Phelan said.
  
SCATS ~~ Since when does Animal Control work Sundays ... ?
   

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

AS of 2:30 Stone closed at Ridge

SCATS said...

TY 2:45PM

Anonymous said...

So they got the search warrant tonight. The DA says the grand jury will get this case. Why are they towing away the cars? A woman interviewed on the news said she will start using the extra locks on her door. Is that to keep the cops out?

Anonymous said...

It's completely messed up the cops had no reason to just walk into someone's house even if the door is wide open. What if the guy was on the toilet when they supposedly called out and he thought someone was breaking into his home

Anonymous said...

They are on 24 hr call for emergency situations on Sundays.

Anonymous said...

It's all part of Reilich's new rental property law. Lol

SCATS said...

To 6:44AM ~~ Wandering dogs is "an emergency?"

To 8:43AM ~~ LMAO!!

Anonymous said...

They are ruining that Library. There used to be a cafe years ago, that sold sandwiches, salads, soup and beverages and it was not successful. The library used to run so smoothly before this Administration came in, pretending to know anything about running a library, and what library patrons want. The library employees and patrons were very happy with the operation. Not so much anymore. Happy employees make happy customers.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I erroneously commented in the wrong post.

Anonymous said...

@SCATS I would think you feeling the way you do about dogs, would consider 2 wandering Pit Bulls an emergency? Ive read your threads before where u have had nothing good to say about any dogs. Even tho Pits are a gentle breed, some people find them very scary.

SCATS said...

To 1:05PM ~~ You are CONFUSED, badly confused! I love animals, of all kinds. I detest irresponsible HUMAN PET OWNERS. Try to distinguish between the two. I know it's often difficult for those who attribute human characteristics to ANIMALS.

Anyone wanting to keep SEVEN DOGS in a Greece residence is a hoarder.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely given the nature of the circumstances, calling in Animal Control was the appropriate thing to do for several reasons. First, the Animal Control Officers are trained in animal control, have the proper restraining equipment and the proper means of transportation. Secondly, only they have the keys to the town holding kennels at StoneRidge Animal hospital. Lastly , two pit bulls running loose in any residential area even if not related to the investigation , on it's own merits, could represent a threat to public safety and therefore an emergency situation. This action was by the book and properly dealt with.

SCATS said...

To 2:04PM ~~ I have no problem with Animal Control getting such a call. I just never heard of them considering a couple of dogs on the loose as an "emergency" on a day off. IMHO, a town the size of Greece should have at least one Animal Control officer on duty 24/7!!

Was there an assumption made that pitbulls equates it to being "an emergency?"

Anonymous said...

No SCATS u are the "very confused one", never did i say anything about 7 dogs or hoarders. Im just pointing out the fact that u have had many threads that are negitive towards dogs and cats. Also its ridiculous for you to say that 2 loose pit bulls is a non-emergency. You have no idea if they are well taken care of or if they pose a threat to anyone. Thats most likely the reason for the call to animal control and the GPD. Also you love to "attribute human characteristics to ANIMALS" Seems to be what u do best.. FYI you are not always right, and people are entitled to their opinions, without being made fun of or called names. You never disappoint. Wheres your class??

SCATS said...

To 4:58PM ~~ One thing I can assure you that I am NOT confused about is the contents of this BLOG! I've covered NUMEROUS requests by Greece residents to HOARD ANIMALS via Zoning Board requests. Thankfully, nearly all of these requests have been turned down. Other than that, there was the incident where the cop shot a dog on Halloween several years ago. In that case, I defended the dog owner! Same thing for the East Sider whose dog was shot by cops.

So, as I stated before, YOU ARE CONFUSED on this issue. You've shown me NO EXAMPLES to back your contention that I dislike animals, which is oh so typical. Poorly behaving animals are owned by poorly qualified "pet parents" as the politically correct like to be called.

MEOW :)

SCATS said...

And BTW, let's get back to the topic of this thread.

Just heard Phelan on the news defending the cop. Word choices are always interesting to me. He went from talking about the concern for this man's welfare to calling the victim (that IS what he is!) a suspect!! WTH was he "suspected" of doing??

Anonymous said...

Pointing a loaded shot Gun at a cop makes him a suspect. Big mistake by him whether or not he is a nut case or not, The important thing, the officer responded appropriately and got to go home to his family instead of becoming a a victim himself. Instead of a rush to judgement, why not wait until all the facts are known and followed by the oppropriate actions. To me, that would be the right way to go instead of assuming and speculating without access to all the facts.

SCATS said...

To 9:10AM ~~ Conveniently, people (including you) are overlooking THE FACT that this man was ASLEEP ON THE FLOOR WITH THE GUN NEXT TO HIM! He was awakened by the cops! Obviously, he reacted to having intruders IN HIS HOME. If it were anyone else besides cops standing there, we would be cheering him on for shooting first, asking questions later. I think the cops handled this very poorly and Sgt. Renee is damned lucky to be alive! He will be equally lucky if this man lives, instead of dying from having his chest blown open.

On the issue of "having all of the facts" ... have you EVER heard of a cop stating that a fellow cop did something wrong?? No? Me either!! In this situation, we may NEVER hear the other side of the story. It is OUR JOB as citizens to ask questions in situations such as these. If we don't, no one will.

I think parents of special needs, learning or developmentally disabled adults or the mentally ill should find this case VERY worrisome concerning the safety of your loved one who might live independently.

Anonymous said...

U R over looking what we know so far. Open door, running water in kitchen, nude body in floor with shot gun next to him. Not exactly your normal appearing situation, Cops had reasonable cause to suspect foul play and the possibility of a victim laying on the floor Now ask yourself scats, faced with that scenario,what would your reaction be if you were the cops and were faced with that scene. Would you simply say this guy is acting normal and exit the house without checking on his welfare
You can spin it any way you want in your usual attempt to smear the actions of the cops. On this one u are. As naked as the guy on the floor and as obvious as usual when it comes to the action of r law enforcement guys.
No reasonable thinking person would buy into your attempt to create the appearance of one of your self proclaimed scandals in this situation,

Anonymous said...

Wrong again scats, since you brought up the subject of cops never pointing the finger at another cop, allow me to point out the most recent example of just that. The Rahn document shredding situation that began that investigation, resulted because an officer came forward and informed town officials of that event. Prior to that one, in 1995, several officers accused Rahn and Skip Beaver of illegally removing articles from the department property room. You must have conveniently forgot those facts, for the record as I recall, in both instances, these circumstances were reported by the press. So I think it's fair to say that we have heard cases that debunk your claim.

SCATS said...

To 2:36PM ~~ The only thing being overlooked is YOU ignoring MY questions :) That's oh so typical on here.

As for "spinning it," that's EXACTLY what Phelan has done. There's only ONE-SIDE presented for the court of public opinion.

As for your insult implying I'm not a "reasonable person", I'll direct you to read the NUMEROUS SIMILAR questions & comments posed by others on the various media websites where the news is posted. I'm not alone.

GET READY TO PAY FOR LAWSUITS, PEOPLE. Of course, you probably won't even know there were any, or what the outcome is, since the Town (and school district) typically settles out-of-court with non-disclosure clauses in the settlement.

SCATS said...

To 2:58PM ~~ You need to go back and review those cases. In the end, NO ONE WAS EVER CHARGED WITH OR STOOD TRIAL FOR SHREDDING DOCUMENTS. In fact, the last I heard about it was from Baxter who was briefed by Loszynski. He said in an interview long after the trials that nothing like that actually ever happened.

As for one cop squeeling on another, there were RUMORS that someone who was in GPD's HQ that Sat. morning overheard voices, shredding, even a vacuum cleaner from behind closed doors of an office. There was never any proof it was a cop and no one was ever named/accused. That's odd for Greece, where placing blame is required by the employers.

And the story also, claimed the call went to NY State police. Let's not forget that DOZENS OF THOSE SAME SILENT COPS still work at GPD today, including the Chief ;)

As for your other example, it was largely before my time and long before the start of this BLOG, so I'll pass.

Now, would someone PLEASE RESPOND TO MY QUESTIONS ? So far, only one has drawn any response.

Anonymous said...

Scats earlier today I posted an expert opinion about why two animals loose and running together could be taken as an emergency situation. Possible that it landed in your spam folder as it did not post . So I will try again.
Since dogs are basically what we in my profession classify as "pack animals"two dogs running loose TOGETHER in a residential area, especially this particular breed, will react quite differently and aggressively to an encountered situation. On the other hand, a single dog on its own would react entirely differently and most likely retreat rather than attack depending in the circumstances. I hope this helps explain the differences you referred to in your personal experiences with a loose dog in your area.

SCATS said...

To 3:37PM ~~ I've posted EVERYTHING received today for this thread. I withheld a jibberish filled comment posted to another thread with an explanation.

Are you an animal behavior specialist? I've taken college level courses in that arena, so I'm quite aware of how many different animals respond to their environments, as well as changes in them. Dogs often resort to "pack behavior" and cats & pigs become feral rather quickly.

As Phelan and witnesses noted on the news last evening, the dogs were completely NON-AGGRESSIVE & NON-THREATENING. They were just not restrained by fence or leash.

Anonymous said...

Would a DVM degree from the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine satisfy you as to my qualifications, As a matter of fact, Animal Behaviour was one of my electives .
Based on your comments, I would conclude that you have some basic theoretical knowledge of the subject. However, there is no substitute for hands on experience relating to generally accepted behavioral norms with respect to Breed specific application. Most variables are related to past history of the subject animal in terms of environmental and social conditions. Regards.

SCATS said...

To 6:34PM ~~ A DVM degree is about as useful in assessing animal behavior as an MD degree is in assessing human behavior. Your last statement also pertains to humans. Looks like your electives and mine were similar, but I opted for a number of psychology courses as well. BOTH serve me well in dealing with people on this BLOG! lol

Anonymous said...

SCATS: Thank you so much for taking time to run this blog. Heck an expert like you who knows so much, and an expert in everything I might add could most likely make a lot of money. But you choose to take your genius and all time expertise and write a blog for no money. Our gain is the worlds loss. Just think you could of cured cancer, create world peace but instead you chose to write a blog and work where you ask; would you like fries with that!

SCATS said...

To 9:18PM ~~ Awww shucks! You ARE most welcome!! (despite your mean-spirited intentions)

PS ~~ I don't need to "make a lot of money." I learned LONG ago that living beyond a moderate level of comfort brings great responsibility with it. I prefer to use my time HELPING PEOPLE, not getting rich. I have as much $$ as I want or need.

As for how I spend my time, I know that "curing cancer" likely will never happen since cancer is 200+ DIFFERENT diseases. I disdain political correctness (and corruption ... they coexist these days), so a life in politics is out. Instead, I attempt to help people in a variety of ways. This BLOG is but one of them.

BTW, fries are unhealthy so how about some quinoa with that?

Anonymous said...

Whats Me chief stand for? Is that sone kind of GPD cut down?

SCATS said...

To 2:54PM ~~ It's what daddy chief says baby chief called himself as a tot.