Wednesday, November 05, 2014

Greece School Decline Noticed

Letter To Editor (D&C)

Many older people in Greece must be very disappointed to learn that their once very good school system has deteriorated into mediocrity, and is now listed as 38th out of 67 school districts in Monroe and surrounding counties. What in the world has happened? I had expected to see some reaction from Greece citizens or the school district itself in the media, but I have not.
It is easy to speculate about reasons. Could it be students, parents, teachers, administration, government with its emphasis on the Common Core programs, or some combination of these? It would be informative and interesting to learn how the officials responsible for the Greece school district view this situation.


Anonymous said...

I think the decline predates the Common Core by several years. The fact is we are becoming an urbanized school with all the problems of an urban school. Left uncorrected and unattended to, the decline will continue until Greece Schools mirror the Rochester School District. There is hope, however. We can be proactive and start to look at other urban districts that have similar size, population, poverty levels, and better performance. One example would be Worcester, Mass. It has all the rubles of Greece (poverty, drugs, single parent homes, homelessness, etc. etc. etc) yet its graduation rate is in the high 70's to low 80's, I believe. How do they do it? Could our leaders decide we might learn from other districts and start the conversation, please? There must be other districts that have met the challenge from whom we could learn.

SCATS said...

To 3:46PM ~~ I agree. The decline in Greece has been going on for 10+ years. I believe it's multi-faceted, not just related to "urbanization" but also related to the decline in enrollment fed by everything from a reduction in course offerings, to lowered graduation rates.

I'm not sure GCSD can be saved. The barn door has been open a long time!

Anonymous said...

What decline... where are the numbers?

Measured how... by who... when?

SCATS said...

To 4:29PM ~~ Feel free to review the loooong history stored in the archives of this BLOG.

Anonymous said...

Buffalo Business First: Achievement Index for Rochester areas 67 districts
2013 #44/67
2014 #30/67
Not great but better...
Need to compare apples to apples please!

Charlie Hubbard said...

I'll say it again all you need to do is read the contracts - NO educational improvements are there.
Clear cut improvement goals from the board tied to financial gains continues to be absent.
These items plus the requirement for a masters degree in excuse making leaves little hope for 'real' educational improvement. By the way rest assured the price will continue to rise.

SCATS said...

To 4:55PM ~~ One year of data shows what??? NOTHING AT ALL.

I'll direct you to the NYSED website where you can look at the school report cards, graduation rates, test scores & other data compiled over time. The trend is pretty darned clear: Greece Central is NOT the district it once was. You'd have to be living under a rock to not realize the difference between this district's performance in the top third of Monroe County schools in the 1990's to the bottom-of-the-apple-barrel of the last half dozen years.

Don't forget, we consolidated schools a couple years ago to cover-up the demise of Apollo Middle School which NY State was about to intervene on for poor performance.

SCATS said...

Charlie ~~ Of course, you are correct.

george hubbard said...

Graduation rate is not the only measure of importance, but it is important.

GCSD graduation rates:

2008-09= 79%

2009-10= 85%

2010-11= 84%

2011-12= 85%

2012-12= 86%

Comments invited.

Anonymous said...


Love you're comment from 7:32. Who's been around for most of this half dozen years of decline you reference. Babs...

Ilan Ficus

SCATS said...

To George ~~ I was anticipating that, since I heard GCSD is preparing to gloat about the 'improvements' in graduation rates. I've also heard in prior years about pressure put on teachers to graduate more students. That's easy to do, just change a few grades. That's how they do it in the city ;)

To 11:10PM ~~ I really should have said the last dozen & a half years! Things really started to go bad when Walts was here. Remember the math program that turned scores upside down almost overnight? This in no way exhonerates Babs, since the trends continue.

I find it interesting that graduation rates rise just as the crapple hits the fan over Common Core results.

Anonymous said...

So much more... So much more... So much more. Anyone interested in truly repairing a broken system must delve into it's inner workings. That translates into interviewing the minions (not those running and benefitting from running the failed sytem), compiling statistical evidence, analyzing that data, and then developing appropriate solutions.
Generally lots of work, attention to detail, and most importantly, resolve based upon reason.
Who of you all has that tenacity or time?

SCATS said...

To 5:24PM ~~ It's not something one person could ever accomplish. Besides, it would require cooperation AND honesty by those working within, something we can't count upon.