Thursday, September 18, 2014

On Point About Prayer


30 comments:

Anonymous said...

The town shows little respect for the constitution.

Their new rental property law assumes the right to inspect your (rental) home regardless of your privacy rights.

Will we have a stop and frisk like NYC next? Will we be able to walk our dog without a cop asking "Papers Please"?

SCATS said...

To 7:54PM ~~ Sadly, we already have wackos in the school district who would LOVE the cops to ask people for their papers as they walk on school district property.

Big Brother is here ...

Anonymous said...

I live in the Dewey Stone area and am thrilled with this new renters law. The landlords will now have to keep their property up and I won't have to move out. My friends in the northgate neighborhood association all are happy about it too. Only person that doesn't like it is that one slum landlord.

Anonymous said...

Fortunately with the Code Enforcers sniffing around rental property they won't have time to look into ILLEGAL Businesses such as the mower shop on Kuhn Rd.

SCATS said...

To 1:50AM ~~ Don't count on it. When I went up to pay my taxes the other day, SIX of them were sitting around, shooting the breeze at 2pm.

Anonymous said...

TO 11:15:
Current law already calls for property maintenance (Length of grass, no broken windows, etc) Any violations can be seen from outside the home. The new law calls for inside inspection (Do YOU want strangers looking through your nightstand?).

Sometime read the first and fourth amendments to the constitution.

SCATS said...

To 3PM ~~ If the town would enforce CURRENT code, Greece would be a whole lot more like Pittsford. IMHO, they are looking for another way to make $$ off the backs of residents & landlords.

Anonymous said...

11:15 WRONG. They can not go into private homes. Rental property, yes, that is because the code is stricter and making sure railings and smoke detectors are in place. As you said the other night we won't accept a 2X4 for a railing.

SCATS said...

Let's face it, the Town of Greece has FAILED to enforce current codes! Look at what happened to Northgate Plaza. Even with outraged residents complaining, the Town didn't want to anger the grand puba inside Benderson Corp. We're paying for these politically favored folks to get away with things most of us can't. It's part of the CLOSED, CLUBBY & CORRUPT Govt we have.

Anonymous said...

Ah, excuse me......Benderson did not and never has owned Northgate plaza. Sorry, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story however.

SCATS said...

To 11:16PM ~~ I did not say they owned Northgate, but don't let my actual words get in the way of YOUR fantasy.

Anonymous said...

When you rent property it becomes your home. If it's missing smoke detectors, or has other problems the renter can first call the landlord,and if no action is taken the town. The constitution provides for this privacy

Fourth Amendment

The Fourth Amendment originally enforced the notion that “each man’s home is his castle”, secure from unreasonable searches and seizures of property by the government. It protects against arbitrary arrests, and is the basis of the law regarding search warrants, stop-and-frisk, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance, as well as being central to many other criminal law topics and to privacy law.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fourth_amendment

Anonymous said...

11:38 I was at the meeting when you spoke out, got to say you must be the only person in a town of 97,000 that doesn't like it. If your property really is up to code what's the problem? The $150 fee is 4 dollars per month. I hope you planned on spending more than that on maintenance. I live in the Dewey stone area and this is needed and about time. Sorry. Hope you don't hold a grudge so that the next time I get up to speak against prayer you don't bash me. I just do not agree with you and think you should spend your time cleaning up your rentals.

SCATS said...

To 3:10PM ~~ I love people who ASSume so much. It usually comes back to bite them in the behind. As for rental properties, there are certain areas of town where HOME RENTALS are taking over and those landlords are ignoring lots of issues once they get a tenant in. The flavor of Greece is changing and it's hurting property values for LOTS of people.

SCATS said...

By the way, the $150 fee is just another TAX, i.e. money grab, by the town.

If the Town enforced the codes they already have and actually performed the inspections, it would go a long way towards improving things for all of us.

Anonymous said...

The people from Northgate Neighbors brought this concern up and helped work on the new law. Many of us think its great and very needed for the town. Great job by all involved!

SCATS said...

To 7:07PM ~~ They "helped work on the new law"?? LMAO!!!! First, Greece relies on an outside organization to "help them" write a new policy on praying at public meetings. Now we hear that some DCN groupies "helped write a new law" covering landlords & property code. WTH do we pay for a Town Attorney?? We've got sooo much untapped talent just waiting to "help" out. LMAO!!!!! Maybe they can write another new law that convinces our local politicians that it's OK to give up the CLOSED, CLUBBY & CORRUPT ways they are so fond of keeping ;)

Anonymous said...

3:10

Would you rather have people like me buying empty houses, rehabbing them and renting them, or let them sit vacant and deteriorating?

I maintain my houses well, I am not ashamed of any of them. I have good tenants. They are professionally screened.

Because someone chooses to rent (and it's not always because they can't afford to buy); should they give up the rights of citizenship guaranteed by the constitution?

The $150 is just a not so subtle way of raising money and putting more people on the town payroll. It won't cost me, I'll just pass it on to the tenants.

I did agree to an inspection of one of my houses (before it was rented) and the "inspection" was a joke. The inspector walked through, saw smoke and Co2 detectors and walked out. The detectors might have had dead or no batteries. Didn't matter to him.

And BTW I do not know what meeting you are talking about, and I DO support any action against prayer before public meetings.

Another BTW -- I also happened to be an Ordained Minister

Anonymous said...

Rentals now, but down the road?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqSzKqlODQ

Anonymous said...

7:47 WRONG, just because you weren't included. There was a focus group held earlier in the year and about 8-10 people from the northgate neighborhood association were there and gave input before the law was adopted. Bring it up at their next meeting. I'm sure some of the people who were at the meeting will be their.

Anonymous said...

I forgot to add they met with Reilic and four or five top department heads.

SCATS said...

To 8:18PM ~~ TY! That's a VERY scary video!! EVERYONE should be concerned.

To 8:47PM ~~ WRONG ABOUT WHAT??? I don't doubt they "worked on the law." I just doubt their qualifications in the Town allowing it! LMAO!!! We really do deserve to be the laughingstock our politicians have created :D

To 8:48PM ~~ Keep going ... you MIGHT impress me ... but I'm not holding my breath lol

SCATS said...

BTW, it would be nice had the Town instead of relying on some has-been group whose purpose is long ago history.

Anonymous said...

regarding that youtube about the inside inspections. Wasn't it refreshing that the town board in question admitted they didn't know about the practice and voted to end the inside inspections demand. When was the last time that our town or school board listened to the people that speak at meetings? when was the last time our town board admitted they weren't aware of something and fixed it right on the spot. Our town board never can do anything that is not planned and scripted from their agenda setting meetings. Maybe Michigan has hope for democracy.

Anonymous said...

That 1st youtube referenced at 8:18 had an interesting link on the side. Listen to how this other city was overcharging for information requests. Then look at the next link here to see how quickly they got action from the courts to stop the illegal practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kKfSDSVQeg

Then read this to see the quick action. Why can't we get things taken care of here like this?

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/19236

I know it's another state. 8:18 thanks for the link. So often we get caught up in our local webs of corruption that we forget we could learn from others. We have such low expectations around here that government can and should respond to the citizens.

SCATS said...

To 5:28AM ~~ Refreshing? YES!!!! At first, I thought it might be sci-fi!! The midwest is the antithesis of this grand bastion of Democratic liberalism we cling to in NY.

I can't recall a "no vote" by anyone on our Town Board since they relocated to 1 VT Blvd. Maybe it's the water ...?

To 5:42AM ~~ I've seen other towns/local school districts on the news. It's clear from their short video clips that DISCUSSION (i.e. 2-way communication) between the electeds & the taxpayers hasn't been legislated away anyplace EXCEPT Greece.

As for the Open Govt issues, I blame our ultra-LIBERAL NY STATE politicians. Are you listening Andy??

Anonymous said...

You're very confusing scats. You change your mind on what you want constantly. Do you want Reilich to work with neighborhood groups or not? You've now combined both ways. Please make up your mindand stop being so wishy washy on the positions you take.

SCATS said...

To 6:51AM ~~ Actually, I'm not "wishy-washy" at all! There's a big gap between "working with neighborhood groups" and having input from JUST ONE who gets to help write a new code/law! As far as neighborhood groups go, this one is the most politically involved. Why didn't Reilich convene a focus group from among ALL the groups? There are LOTS of rentals outside the Dewey Corridor.

Anonymous said...

11:17 SCATS WRONG AGAIN,There was a focus group held earlier in the year and about 8-10 people from the northgate neighborhood association and neighborhood were there and gave input before the law was adopted. No one ever said the input was from just one person.

SCATS said...

To 7:16PM ~~ You REALLY need to take remedial reading. And YOU OWE ME AN APOLOGY, TOO!

I am not "wrong." I was talking about GROUPS, as in neighborhood groups. I never said anything about "one person" ... instead I said from "just one" after referring to "neighborhood groups" before. In the clause where I did not specify "group" it is implied/understood from the previous clause.

You also owe me for an English lesson.

The ONE thing you are right about is that "No one ever said the input was from just one person. And THAT includes me :)

Seriously, I'm not sure I'll be posting any more ridiculously illiterate comments like this in the future. You should KNOW better.