Monday, August 11, 2014

BOE: WHEN Will You Fix What You've Broken??


BOE Meeting Tuesday @6:30PM



Executive Session -  It is anticipated that the BOE will go into Exec. Session at 5:30PM to discuss the proposed acquisition, sale, and/or lease of real property.


 Anonymous said...

You do realize that executive session on the lease is illegal, right? See http://www.dos.ny.gov/coog/openmeetlaw.html#s103

h. the proposed acquisition, sale or lease of real property or the proposed acquisition of securities, or sale or exchange of securities held by such public body, but only when publicity would substantially affect the value thereof.   

8/11/2014 7:14 PM

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Not illegal if it involves the legalities of the lease or sale with advise and input from legal council in this regard.

Anonymous said...

Also the meeting that we all can attend has to be called to order before they make the motion to go into executive session. So although they may assume they are going to be able to go into closed session, they have to open the meeting (supposedly at 5:30)and approve the agenda and then someone has to make the motion to go to closed session and the reason and it be accepted by a board majority in the public. (They just don't want us to witness them talking with their mouths full as they chomp on rubber chicken) The reason I bring this up is they will be having a board meeting at 5:30 and there is the possibility they will be talking about any board business right then and there. You know we can't trust them. Heck, they can't even trust each other.
And yes just because they are discussing sale or lease is not enough to warrant closing the discussion and vote from the public. As the previous writer pointed out, they can only close it if it will affect the value of our public property. That's a stretch. They already have a deal that they closed waaaaaay before any board meeting so no one else could be involved. We are suckers. If they discussed it in public would the Renaissance Charter people say "No we won't pay you the great deal of $12.500 per month. We changed our mind because you are discussing this in public as the law dictates. We are taking our marbles and going away"? I don't think so. The only factor affecting our property values is the ineptitude and secrecy of our school board and the climate in our schools. It would be nice to keep that a secret if someone wants to sell here but we can't. We are notorious.

SCATS said...

To 8:59AM ~~ I think you've erroneously bought into the idea that anytime a lawyer is consulted the subject matter can be discussed in Exec. Session. That's simply not the case.

Anonymous said...

9:39 This site has done more in the past several years to destroy your property values than any other venue of public information including the local media. Thanks for contributing to the problem.

SCATS said...

To 4:26PM ~~ REALLY?? Can YOU PROVE that?? I won't hold my breath.

The funny thing is that the info I post is ALL from public sources, largely mainstream media. I don't make the "news" I just deliver the message. If you don't like that message, maybe YOU need to make some changes, like who you vote for ;)

Anonymous said...

4:26pm, I have a hard time believing ANYONE could be stupid enough to believe what you wrote. Your essentially saying that the arsonist is not responsible for the fire, the blame goes to the person who dialed 911 and reported it. Think about how dumb that sounds.

SCATS said...

To 7:32PM ~~ With thinking like 4:26PM, is it any wonder we make the headlines as often as we do, or for the ridiculous stuff that we do? I challenge anyone to find a Town/school district anywhere in America that has a track record as dirty as ours is, with so many similarly stupid situations ... mostly preventable.

Charlie Hubbard said...

9:39 (anonymous)
You must ask had Scats been around would a crooked assessor survived as long as he did?? Would a crooked police chief survived as long as he did?? Would school boards doing business in the 'back room' without the publics knowledge and with an attorneys ok (tell them what they want to hear) - ???

Scats is the best thing to happen to Greece in years.
Your posting brings new meaning to the word 'shallow'.

Anonymous said...

Off topic but perhaps of interest...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/michael-mulgrew-defends-common-core-punch-face-tools-article-1.1895301#evzfVxkEv7t7cHf6.97

SCATS said...

To Charlie Hubbard ~~ TY VERY MUCH:)

I think 9:39's posting is about as ridiculous as I've ever heard. He/she is probably one of the SAME people who will argue that only 3-4 people read the BLOG, too ;)

To 3:48PM ~~ Gotta love those union bosses! HOW do these people EVER qualify to work near children??

Anonymous said...

Can anyone explain and justify the massive amount of pavement and concrete work being performed at the old West Ridge school? I am under the impression that the school is only used for the miscreant City thieves who cannot make it in regular classrooms and must be educated in their own personal setting.
If so, why do they need new paint on an old barn that is one of the oldest, least functional buildings in the District? There are holes rotted in the metal panels below windows, the foundation is cracked and leaking, the roof drains onto the new walks, the window caulking is cracked so bad you can see through it into the classrooms.
This building isn't even fit to be a barn!

SCATS said...

To 6:52PM ~~ Great questions! I suspect the sound of crickets is ALL you'll be hearing ...

Anonymous said...

Attention, the authority on the best thing that's happened in Greece has spoken, A former two time board member who voted to hire the two worst superintendent s In the history of our district. So much for that questionable opinion
This will never get posted as he enjoys the protection , which he needs from the like minded folks who operate this blog.

SCATS said...

To 3:50PM ~~ You're going to have to be more specific about the "two worst superintendent s In the history of our district." There have been so many!! Yagielski, Page, Walts, Keller-Cogan, Kehoe, Achramovitch, O'Rourke, Babs ...

By the way, you can't blame one person for hiring anyone, unless it's the BOE Prez. casting the 5th vote on an otherwise split decision! It takes 5 votes to do ... or undo ... anything. But then, YOU already knew that ;)

Anonymous said...

I tend to agree with 4:26. As a person who does not live in Greece thank God, but reads comments on this site, based on what I read Greece would be the last place on earth I would want to buy property ,
I'm sure Others like me in similar locales aware of this blog share the same opinion. I think it would be fair to say that others living outside Greece view the population of Greece as that of a sub culture of sorts attractive to only other sub cultures in our area. Lol

SCATS said...

To 4:19PM ~~ If you REALLY think that's true then THE ONUS TO CLEAN-UP OUR CORRUPTED WAYS SITS SQUARELY ON THE POLITICIANS, BOE & SUPT. TO FIX!!

If they continue to ignore the problems, then of course they will be responsible for Greece's downfall, not this BLOG.

Anonymous said...

Oh my God Scats the best thing to happen for Greece in years. Lmao. However on the flip side, the worst thing to happen to the GCSD , THE Hubbard boys, along with some former turn coat members of the CARE group.The record speaks for itself beyond comparison on that score

SCATS said...

To 5:13PM ~~ With thinking like yours, Greece's future headline will be something like: The Tale of the Dysfunction Junction: How A BLOG Brought 100,000 To Their Demise.

Playing victim gets you nowhere.

Anonymous said...

A lack of accountability is dysfunctional. Keep up the pressure SCATS. You rock!

Anonymous said...

Now Come on scats I didn't say that you did. You really give yourselves too much credit in that you really think your comments have that much of an impact on what goes on in Greece. Your ego rivals the size of the town itself. This blog is really the the story of THE 300 no more no less lol

SCATS said...

To 6:37AM ~~ Since you didn't reference WHAT you are referring to, I can't respond to your first sentence, because 299 others are also reading/responding ;)

What I KNOW FOR SURE is that employees of the Town of Greece, GCSD, GPD, the fire depts. and even at the County Offices are reading AND OFTEN ACTING/REACTING to this BLOG. They change their behaviors, accordingly, in numerous ways.

PS ~~ TY for upping the number from three. But I must say, in the last 4-6 months, daily pageview totals are WAY up. Often exceeding 2500/day ;) Keep those scandals coming!!

Anonymous said...

Definition of a scandle according to this blog. Anytime a public employee in Greece takes a 5 minute break when nature calls,
You seem to make a lot of claims about this blog influencing not only the behavior of town employees and even county officials. Are you asserting that these employees are trembling in their Buster Browns because of your blog, your comments as well as others? I think that is hilarious if not plain ludicrous. As I see it, there
is one glaring problem. YOU CANT PROVE IT. As for your claim of increased readership, we will just have to take your word for that but in terms of impact, no provable significants related to that claim what so ever. PROOF, WHERES THE PROOF

SCATS said...

To 2:17PM ~~ For someone with so much bluster, it's a shame you can't spell. The word I think you wanted is SCANDAL, not 'scandle.'

As for YOUR OTHER RIDICULOUS ASSERTIONS, they are outright lies, as usual. I have no need to prove anything to someone who attempts (and fails) to put words in my mouth.

PS ~~ You don't have to take my word for anything about readership. The BLOG has a counter (it's been there for YEARS!!) and a tool that tells you where people who read it come from. If you can't use what's already readily & easily available, then you're beyond hopeless.

Anonymous said...

SCATS
Please add this to the appropriate blog... Thank you.

For those interested, listen to Bill Hueber and other residents address the board at the August 12 meeting.

Bill Hueber: 2:35
His attorney and resident: 8:55

http://www.greece.k12.ny.us/board.cfm?subpage=44193

SCATS said...

To 2:14PM ~~ I can only do cut & paste. I think this is the best BLOG so, we'll leave it be. TY ;)

Anonymous said...

I really need to start attending these meetings. Who is the individual standing in the doorway who looks so bored, can't hold his water, keeps checking a program like he's got someplace better to be, and does absolutely nothing? Looks kinda like a GCSD logo on his shirt if u zoom, but uncertain.
Can anyone offer any help here?

SCATS said...

To 4:57PM ~~ No idea!

Anonymous said...

I noticed you scrubbed my last comment in response to yours, That's the problem with you people. You like playing with a stacked deck and a rigged game, That's why this blog lacks credibility of any kind and continues to be inconsequential as critical comments are met with negativity and insults directed at those daring to disagree in obvious efforts to discredit their position on posted comments. I think it would fair to say that fair play is lacking on this blog.Intelligent readers of this site recognize this tactic and temper their thinking accordingly.

The D & C reporters have long since stopped taking anything you post, not reported in the media , as being of any consequence and not worth the time to follow up. As one put it, this site has become divisive and self serving. I couldn't agree more with that assessment of this blog.

SCATS said...

To 10:24AM ~~ Scrubbed your last comment?? How the heck are we supposed to know WHICH was your last comment?

I just checked the SPAM folder and for comments that are deemed inappropriate for posting. So if you authored the comment ranting about how the BLOG is authored by racists, or the one trying to call out by name a community member who you 'think' runs this BLOG, or the vulgarity-laced diatribe, or the essay about all of the things wrong with this BLOG, or the one claiming a known individual is having an affair with another known individual's spouse ... etc. etc. etc then too bad!

The purpose of this BLOG is NOT to discuss the authors, or the BLOG!! As such, comments received to "complain" about either are often not posted.

As for the D&C reporters, YOU MADE MY DAY!! lol That rag publishes 3-day-old news for a ridiculous price that more and more folks are saying "no thanks" to ;)

Anonymous said...

Any response on my part would be futile but I will explain anyway. I will say this,of the spam you describe, mine contained no vulgarities, racist accusations, rumors, or claims about the identity of those managing this site. Who you are is irrelevant to me. What is relevant is the fact that I have differing opinions than you on some of your comments on certain topics and challenge them from time to time , with an opinion of my own.
The systems of checks and balances is crucial to the democratic process our culture us based upon. Unfortunately, this ingredient is not always present on your site. In fact, the post you deleted, eluded to that fact.

SCATS said...

To 4:30PM ~~ I "eluded" (sic) to nothing of the sort. Your assumptions are very telling. Where did you get the idea that this website, or any media source, is based upon checks, balances or the democratic process?? I don't believe any media is, or ever was. That's not to say they don't contribute, which they do for information and discussion ... period.

Since this site's authors/administrators could potentially be sued, and since it's most unlikely anonymous comment authors ever would/or could be sued, one side (SCATS') has a much bigger stake in the discussions.

Anonymous said...

Scats 4:30 makes some good points . Basically what the poster was saying when talking about the Democratic process with regard to this site and how it operates is crystal clear. I think the message there was concerning " balance" of views and censorship by you of comments critical of your position and one sided operation of your blog.
Of course you have an obligation to protect yourself from litigation as well as those comments sensitive to those who might be offended by derogatory and inflammatory remarks. But refusing to post comments contrary to your personal beliefs is not a balanced approach and personally motivated.
However, this is your blog and you have every right to run it as you see fit. But, having said that, some of us
out here reserve the right to offer a differing approach
On topics of discussion . Whether or not they get posted , is your decision.

SCATS said...

To 7:33AM ~~ We DO post DIFFERING points of view! Look around!! I'm SURE you'll see them!!

However, long ago, we stated we will no longer be editing lengthy diatribes to make them something we can post! It's simply a waste of our time. You folks need to remember a few things.

ONE - This is a PERSONAL BLOG shared with the community. While we do attempt to find topics of interest to different groups, there are times we will post things that might interest just a few, like us :)

TWO - This BLOG receives no income and we receive no pay! There are NO ads!! It's a 100% VOLUNTEER effort. So when you decide to complain, it's best you keep that aspect in mind. Of course, maybe it's time we change that ... hmm ...

THREE - There are days & times when it simply isn't worth the effort required to attempt straighten out some of the more twisted comments received. When people put words into our mouths, twist the logic (or pretend they don't know what logic is), state as facts things we simply know are not true, etc. then it might be decided to not post a comment. Having said that, that doesn't mean we hold back lots of posts. It does mean that if we get several comments that are obviously from the same person, time stamped closely together at midnight and those remarks are rants that are inaccurate, filled with claims about things we never said, etc. then they just might get the deep six.

FOUR - LAST BUT NOT LEAST - We attempt to keep these postings on topics OTHER THAN THE BLOG!! We do NOT want to be constantly discussing the rules, who we are, why we do a BLOG, yada, yada, yada ... So if you keep posting about SCATS' personality traits, directing insults at us, talking about our living situation, threatening us (we get LOTS of these at times!) and other totally inane stuff, it might not get posted!! If you keep the discussion to POINT OF VIEW BASED UPON WHAT WAS ACTUALLY STATED, it will probably be responded to ... provided it doesn't cross some other line.

Just an FYI ~~ There are over 3700 BLOG TOPICS posted on this site and way more than 53,000 comments posted! There are a total of 151 comments that have been withheld for a variety of reasons. Duplicate comments, posts from obvious SPAM sites, one-line rants (such as "SCATS you suck!) are deleted as received.