Wednesday, July 02, 2014

Questions Arise About Neighborhood Group



Anonymous said...
When is our illustrious police department going to investigate so called neighborhood groups charging fees to join yet no one knows where the funds are going? ????    7/01/2014 6:28 PM
 Anonymous said...
Its $10 and newsletters haven't been mailed or issued in ages. Exactly where is this money going? Sounds suspicious if you ask me.    
7/01/2014 9:25 PM
 
Anonymous said...
I believe the President is some lady named Carol Messina. Apparently it is totally reorganized according to her, but still following same by laws. So how is that a total reorganization?????     7/02/2014 1:36 PM

63 comments:

Anonymous said...

I believe there are very specific nys guidelines regarding membership fees. This particular organization has always made their own laws and I'm surprised this hasn't been brought to light previously.

SCATS said...

To 6:25PM ~~ That's definitely news to me. I've held memberships in a variety of organizations from AAA to PTA to a variety of social activity groups. A quick Google search uncovered only info related to the need to charge sales tax if member fees exceed $10.

Anonymous said...

What's next, a holiday home tour in the Dewey Corridor? What's the admission charge.

SCATS said...

To 7:34PM ~~ Whose home do you want to tour in that area??

Anonymous said...

Is this the same political group who claimed to be non political all those years ago? Does the Town or shall I say Reilich even acknowledge their existence?

SCATS said...

To 9:04PM ~~ I think the Republicans wrote them off after Auberger got skewered at their Candidate's Night several years back. Since then, only Baxter gave them attention.

Anonymous said...

The only individuals who should be concerned about where their ten bucks go are those who join the group.
Outside of that it's nobody's business.
Another inconsequential useless topic posted here of no particular value.

Anonymous said...

What's the big deal, that's how the CARE group ran for years

SCATS said...

Once again, we're withholding one or more comments because THEY DO NOT STICK TO THE TOPIC!!

PERSONAL ATTACKS on the BLOG, its authors or those who write in are NOT FAIR GAME.

Feel free to attack ideas, statements, thoughts, etc. That's called "debate."

7:09AM ~~ THIS ESPECIALLY MEANS COMMENTS LIKE YOURS!

Anonymous said...

As a member I am concerned that's why I want to know where the monies are going!!!!!

SCATS said...

To 11:57AM ~~ Makes purrfect cents to me :)

Anonymous said...

CARE was incorporated As such they established and furnished By-Laws to the proper authorities that clearly spelled out how their dues and other raised funds were used and are a matter of public record.


SCATS said...

To 3:46PM ~~ I suspect "incorporation" makes them a different animal then ... correct?

Anonymous said...

They claim to be new and improved yet the rules, policies and all that nonsense are still the same as before. Thank you SCATS for highlighting there questionable behavior. Someone needs to call them out.

Anonymous said...

If this group cares so much about this community why do we never see them at Town Board meetings other than when it is an election year? That shows their true political nature does it not?

Anonymous said...

You know better scats, As a not for profit corp they are bound by law to use assets as spelled out in their by laws.
And , yes, it clearly defines them a part from fly by night neighborhood groups who are under no such lawful constraints .
Btw For those who may think other wise here, CARE is no longer active.. So previous comments that may or not refer to this group are totally incorrect. They have been inactive since 2009. It's my understanding that they do not plan to become active anytime in the foreseeable future.

SCATS said...

To 3:36PM ~~ Excuse me?? I know better than what? I don't ask questions I already know the answer to.

Unless YOU have seen DNG's bylaws, you have no idea what you're talking about.

BTW, most bylaws specify that Board Member positions can only be held by the same person in the same position for a couple of elections. MOST groups I've known violate that bylaw due to lack of "volunteers" to take on leadership positions. I suspect even CARE did it.

Speaking of CARE, they will reinvent themselves whenever Bev feels the need.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, YOU ARE SO WRONG AS USUAL THE PERSON YOU MENTION IS A CLOSE FRIEND. BELIEVE ME, SHE HAS NO INTENTION TO DO AS YOU SAY AS SHE IS IN NO PHYSICAL CONDITION TO DO AS YOU SAY. EVEN IF SHE COULD, SHE WOULD NOT DO AS YOU CLAIM , TRUST ME!!

Anonymous said...

Then why ask if you know the answer to your own question. Makes no sense unless your adding your own 2 cents
Actually I found it enlightening as I didn't know CARE was a not for profit group.What happened to them, I always found their news letters very informative at budget vote time.It had to cost a few bucks to mail those out.They must have had to use members dues for that I would think and have a lot of members also.

SCATS said...

To 4:45PM ~~ Calm down, Joe! You seem to be unable to comprehend what the words "feels the eed" means. If she decides to do it, it will happen. If she decides not to do so, it won't. WHATS the problem??

To 6:11PM ~~ WHICH question are you talking about? Just because I know something about a topic doesn't mean I know ALL of the details. GEESH!!

Anonymous said...

For the record, Dewey Corridor/North gate neighbors is not a non profit!!!!

A physical condition that is a way overstated comment. She seems to be out partying every weekend yet claims to have an exagerrated physical condition Monday through Thursday.

SCATS said...

I suspect I'm not the only one confuzzled here ... lol

Anonymous said...

Wrong again. That makes you 0 for 2 on this topic. Incidentally , that person you thought was me, has recently formed his own activist group comprised of mostly recent residents of Greece. They hope to have a Web Site up and running soon dealing with Town Government issues solely and not school district issues.
As he put it during a recent conversation, the future of Greece lies in the ability of its newest members and their ability to identify and effectively deal with current problems through various available resources as well as political actions. As he sees it, long term residents have grown accustom to the status quo and lack the drive and desire to bring about needed changes to
Greece.
Personnally, and I have told him this,it's a waste of time as this town is beyond salvation of any kind by any means,

SCATS said...

To 9:36AM ~~ TY for the laughs :)

It's been several years since you first "threatened" another BLOG to "compete." About the same amount of time since Joe/you promised to author a book ... with a chapter about this BLOG in it!

The "mostly recent residents of Greece" are largely escapees of the City of Rochester. They aren't going to give-a-damn about politics in this town.

The younger people who you are hoping will care are busy looking for ways to get their kids out of GCSD before it's too late. Since school let out, two of my neighbors with 8 kids between them are DONE WITH GCSD for good! One family moved to Hilton. The other is choosing a private option. How far below 11,000 will GCSD enrollments fall this year??

Anonymous said...

I thought this topic was about Dewey Corridor Neighbors aka Northgate Neighbors and their failure to alert paying members as to where membership dues are going?

SCATS said...

To 11:09AM ~~ As with normal conversations, topics take twists & turns. Feel free to ask questions or make whatever points you have about DCN. It is the thread's main subject.

Anonymous said...

SCATS u might wanna tell your friend moving to Hilton to be perpared, Hilton is a HUGE drug town. Yes i know this forr a fact. Thats where i went to high school and so did my son. They also ship in inner city kids, who have their own wing in the school.. good luck to your friend!

Anonymous said...

Is this CARE group affiliated with NGN? Also what are some other Greece neighborhood groups? Are they as crooked as Dewey?

SCATS said...

To 10:35PM ~~ No, they are not affiliated. CARE is long dead.

I've heard there are about a dozen or so groups in Greece. There is a long-standing one for the Koda-Vista neighborhood. Beatty Beach has one. I think I've seen signs for one in the Ledgewood area and another on Black Walnut. I believe a couple new ones formed under Baxter's watch. I have no idea which are "crooked" or even if they collect dues. Maybe GPD would share more info ... but then again, maybe not. It seems that Me Chief doesn't get the same warm fuzzy feelings for them that Baxter did.

SCATS said...

To 9:11PM ~~ Guess what? Greece is MUCH larger and is also a HUGE drug town> We actually bus the city kids to Greece schools because we've turned a blind eye to theft of services. Maybe Hilton has better teachers, classes and other options ... ?

Anonymous said...

Charlotte Neighborhood Association is one of the better run organizations. They are well known and professional unlike the Dewey Stone group who can't seem to establish an identity, mission or even vision for that matter. The president can't decide if it's a neighborhood watch group or a community organization. No wonder why the so called president is no longer heard on local radio as a dj.

SCATS said...

To 11:51AM ~~ I didn't mention them because I'd say they are more geared to the city than to Greece.

As for DCN, they only became a "watch group" when a certain badge bunny or two got involved with Baxter. At that point, DCN was given tickets "to the cops, dogs & helicopters in the park' day events.

I didn't know JC DJ'd.

Anonymous said...

Carol used to work at WARM and was known as Tiger until she was fired.

SCATS said...

To 12:25PM ~~ Oh, I see. TY for the info. Getting "fired" from such a position isn't such a big deal these days, IMHO. Musical chairs!

Anonymous said...

Did you know that ms. Gullo is best friends with kimberly from that show. Check out their tweets. Very interesting indeed. Wonder how Villa board members feel about that?

Anonymous said...

Hey 9:11, obviously you didnt go to Hilton Schools. Hilton is not a TOWN genius. Its the name of the Village. The town is Parma. And the school district is awesome.

Anonymous said...

Hey 8:19 i did go to Hilton!! Excuse me village!! Also i worked for the Hilton school district at one point. Its not called Parma High!! Who the hell are you to say i didnt go to HILTON HIGH SCHOOL!?!? I know for a fact i didnt go to Parma High.. GENIUS!! Want my 1st and last name?? I was a 1995 grad!! You can look me up!!!

SCATS said...

To 4:29PM ~~ TY for setting 8:19PM straight about the Hilton School District :) Can ya tell school is out? lol

Joe Moscato said...

SCATS; My attention was called to this thread by a friend.
For reasons beyond by understanding, you appear to be fixated by referencing me in your comments on this site. This, inspite of personal requests by myself asking you to please refrain from this practice.I can only assume you are trying to draw me into a controversy not of my making.
Let me assure you that this will not happen.

What my associate didn't know until recently, I have abandoned my plans to form a community group. This group was something that I had shared with you on a person to person basis a short time ago. My reasons were of a personal nature inso doing,

I have decided instead to stand on my well established record of successful community involvement for the past 55 years as a member of this town. A town I will always call Home. Although, as we both agreed at the time, there remained much more to do to bring about positive changes in the way this town conducts itself.

In this regard, I have run out of steam to continue. So given the time left, I have decided to devote my remaining energy in the pursuit of a life long passion. My love of animal welfare To this end , my wife and I have stablished the wwwJakeMemorialK9 foundation.org I plan on growing this foundation during the coming years and continue with its mission. I have no other interests involving Town or School issues anymore. I prefer to leave that you and the next generation of concerned residents. Best of Luck. Joe.

Anonymous said...

How did old joe get involved in a blog post related to carol messina and northgate neighbors? Everyone always seems to think you are talking or referring to them on here scats. Seriously.

SCATS said...

To 4:53PM ~~ Great question! I think they call it guilt by association ;)

Anonymous said...

If u think of the size of greece compaired to hilton, drugs are much worse in hilton. The same goes for small towns like lima, wayne, i grad from hilton in 95 and drugs were a huge problem, even in the middle schools. Im not saying greece is better, im just saying as far as size goes. I left hilton in 97, but i can only guess things have only gotten worse there.. i also have family in lima who pulled their daughters out and home schooled due to the drug problems there. You are rt about city kids being shipped in. A few years ago my friends mother turned in a women who was busing in at least 25 kid from the city. Needless to say that women no longer lives in greece.

Anonymous said...

On a side note, i had a teacher in hilton that would allow us to bum cigarettes of him. I also had a vice principal who came onto me after i was out of school, while buying a 1/4 keg of beer from me at the place i worked at, at the time.. creepy!

Anonymous said...

SCATS did use the name Joe a few times in this thread. Maybe he thinks hes the only Joe? Or it could be just an honest mistake?

Anonymous said...

4:53 I share your thoughts and concerns But do as I did and read comments by scats earlier in this thread and you will find the answer to your question as I did. The 9:36 post by scats says it all and the reason this happened
I think we have seen this before when comments that are slightly off target get posted and bloggers begin to respond to those posts thereby drifting off original topic.

SCATS said...

To 12:11 & 12:16AM ~~ HOW do you know how bad drugs were in Greece compared to Hilton at that time?? As for your experiences with employees from Hilton, I'm not sure who that speaks more poorly of ... them or YOU.

To 12:18AM ~~ I find it strange AND amusing that he is ALWAYS told by someone that his name was mentioned ... AND THEN he tries to clear the record lol God forbid should he admit to reading this BLOG ;)

To 6:48AM ~~ You are confused. The 9:36 post was not mine.

Anonymous said...

He doesn't want to be drawn into controversy? Yet, he managed to get a plug for his new pet project. People never cease to amaze me!

SCATS said...

To 9:39AM ~~ Ahhh yes!! The old "silver lining" to every "cloud" ... lol

SCATS said...

Once again, SCATS received a threatening message, this time unsigned, but from someone I supposedly know. IF this person were to EVER show up "for a face-to-face" I can assure him he will be ordered to leave ASAP and the cops will be called. We'll start with charges of trespassing & harassment.

The threat has been both sent to Google and a copy retained by SCATS for future proof, should the need arise.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't rely on GPD to help you. Sorry they want to shut you down. Chatterton wanted you out of business but Baxter wouldn't have it.

SCATS said...

To 4:13PM ~~ THAT'S hysterical!

Even more so given that they are BOTH out of GPD.

PS ~~ I have faith they will come when called.

Anonymous said...

I know because at the time Greece and its schools were amoung the best in the state. Your comments about what happened to me with employee of the Hilton schools is just wrong. Yes the bumming of a cigarette was my bad, but once i was out of school and working, i fail to see how his actions would speak poorly of me? He was my vice principal, and a married man, i had just turned 18.

Anonymous said...

Are u sure bout that SCATS? In another thread you swore up and down how you had called the GPD and they never showed up?

SCATS said...

To 9:48AM ~~ It is true what happened previously. Of course, they had no clue who called then. But if I were to believe (which I do not) that they would refuse to show up because they "know" who I am, I think it would be interesting to watch all of the fallout from that. It will make Rahn's problems look minor ;)

Anonymous said...

Also a gym teacher/ coach was fired and brought up on charges for sexual assault of female students. I cant remember his name or all the details, but im sure with a little research u could find it. This was around 96/97. In Hilton.

SCATS said...

To 11:42AM ~~ Have you kept up on Greece's troubles? We had a male bus monitor that abused a bunch of little girls in the back of the bus by rubbing their faces in his lap! There are several other pervs we've ousted along the way in much more recent times, too.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, why dont you ever post the threatening comments people post to you? Not that i agree that anyone should threaten anyone else in anyway, I guess its more of a curiosity thing on my part, to see exactly what these fools are threatening you with? Im just nosey like that lol.Maybe you could just post one? I'd really love to see what the crazies are saying. Please just post one. LMAO!

SCATS said...

To 2:43PM ~~ Actually, I have done that in the past. It seemed to result in getting even more wacky comments, so I don't bother. The most recent one stated I might end up in a face-to-face with said bully. Oddly, that's what many of the threats I've received state: they will be at my door looking for a confrontation. I won't be playing that game.

ALL THREATS RECEIVED HERE ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, just as they would be had a public employee or elected official been threatened. You just never know with some folks ... and I'm not looking to find out.

Anonymous said...

How many GPD investigators does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Lol

SCATS said...

To 4:56PM ~~ Hopefully the answer is NONE! There ought to be plenty of peons who make far less $$ for that sort of thing ;)

Anonymous said...

Yes i have, thankfully none of my children were involved. I was just speaking about what happened in Hilton back in the day. The bus person was the last i heard of in greece.

Anonymous said...

Webster police had no problem locating a 16 year old without the need for an amber alert.

SCATS said...

To 9:45AM ~~ It's done frequently in surrounding communities.