Wednesday, July 09, 2014

KIRK RD. SCHOOL SOLD*



GREECE CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT 
TO PROVIDE FOOD SERVICES TO NEW OWNER


City kids to be bused to Greece residential neighborhood by same group that took over Hoover Dr. bldg.

Greece Residents Were Lied To 
About School's Location At Public Hearing
  
*As of April, 2015 for bargain basement value
  

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Will these be free and reduced lunches?

Anonymous said...

So they have a formal agreement with Greece. Renaissance Academy Charter. How come the regents and the charter school know about this use of Kirk rd property and building and possibly the Greece school board and administration but the rest of us are in the dark? How will the neighbors feel about this new neighbor that is not even renting but just using until apr2015? Have there been any "let's get acquainted" sessions? How do we feel about a charter that greece kids cannot attend?
I especially like the part about the formal purchase won't be until Apr of 2015 but through a private donor the school will be able to operate right away. Are we that hard up in Greece that we are allowing free use of the facility? Who pays for the utilities? What if they don't want to leave? Do we evict? What if they don't purchase? Who has the insurance? Since Greece will be the owner until (we hope) apr 2015 are we responsible for any incidents or accidents or child molestation or abuse? And why is this a secret?

http://www.regents.nysed.gov/meetings/2014/June2014/614p12a3.pdf

Anonymous said...

There was a public hearing on May this year for the renaissance charter. It is a charter for city of rochester students. Apparently they are running out of space in the city. How much parental involvement will there be if the kids are in a school far far away from the parents and the parents have no car? Must be a new kind of experiment. Take the kids away from their parents and their neighborhood and feed them food from greece and see if that improves the educational outcomes. Oh yes and the teachers are not union so they might even have better outcomes than here in real greece schools. The website for Renaissance said it would also be at the 133 Hoover location like discovery already is....by the same Educational Enterprise of NY with Jasco and Dedee and Wegmans etc. The info from the Renaissance group says at that meeting no one attended here in greece and no one spoke. They also said that they divulged where the proposed location would be at Kirk Rd. That was a lie. At that meeting they said nothing about a location at Kirk rd. That info was kept under wraps because the people in the neighborhood should have been informed. At the end of the notice from regents it says that it is a done deal. So much for open government in Greece.
Let's face it. Even if they were open about this the board would have voted for it no matter what the community said. Also they are planning on selling it for 1/3rd the asking price which is already far below that appraised value on the property tax site of the county.

Anonymous said...

County tax site says 299 Kirk Rd worth $3,899,700.

Nothnagle website has it listed for $1,470,000. That sounds like it is priced to sell! Owner motivated. Take as is. Fixer upper? Desirable neighborhood.
If they sell for much lower than that we are being sold down the river. I though only the city did things like that. Oh wait. This is really a city school located in Greece. I stand corrected. New wave of intermunicipal cooperation.

SCATS said...

To 7:05PM ~~ Yup, we've been lied to alright! By both our own BOE as well as the Charter School folks. Makes me wonder what they are hiding & why ... ?

Here's some interesting links provided by an interested party that show the mysterious swap from Hoover Dr. to Kirk Rd:

http://www.regents.nysed.gov/meetings/2014/June2014/614p12a3.pdf

http://rochesterdiscovery.com/wp-content/uploads/Board-Minutes-2013-5-16.pdf

SCATS said...

QUESTION: How could a "public hearing" May 13, 2014 about a new charter school be considered VALID if the LOCATION OF THAT SCHOOL WAS NOT DIVULGED at that meeting??

SOMETHING STINKS IN GREECE, NY!

Anonymous said...

I thought a government entity or municipality could not sell property for less than its appraised value?

Anonymous said...

8:55, here's a news flash! Most private owners sell their property for less than the appraised value -at least as appraised by the Town of Greece for tax purposes.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, if the law was not followed with regard to disclosing where the school would actually operate, do the neighbors have the ability to sue the state or Board of Regents to vacate the plan? Seems like it would be time for the interested parties to contact a lawyer and have a discussion.
Just a suggestion. I doubt complaining on this website will force the parties to start complying with the law.

SCATS said...

To 7:15AM ~~ Perhaps they do have that ability.

Actually, you'd be SHOCKED to know what changes have come about due to this site. I truly believe there is trouble in paradise over this, since I've been provided with a link to a document stating the required NEED to hold a PUBLIC HEARING due to the site change requested.

Time will tell ...

SCATS said...

To 7:12AM ~~ Tell me something I don't already know! Seems to me that a home that sells for $15K less than the tax appraisal should NOT be assessed for the same amount AFTER the sale!

Anonymous said...

7:12 NEWS FLASH - Hey smarty pants Yes private parties can but it's their money not tax payers. I check with the Greece Assessors department and they said a municipality CAN NOT SELL PROPERTY for less than the appraised value. Now the school district can have their favorite appraiser (wink, wink) Midland do the appraisal for what ever amount they want.

SCATS said...

To 9:41PM ~ But can they sell it for less than the assessed value?

Anonymous said...

Hey 9:51. I think 7:12 wrote in a sarcastic font, That's what came through on my computer.

SCATS said...

To 12:59PM ~~ You must be seeing things because there is no 9:51 ... or "sarcastic font".

Anonymous said...

9:41, sorry. I saw sarcasm all over that comment. But I wasn't the target of it.

Anonymous said...

So if I understand correctly GCSD is leasing Kirk Road to a city charter school because apparently there are NO buildings anywhere in all of Rochester to put it.

As a result we are getting another charter school in Greece that kids in Greece can't go to because its run by the RCSD.

Seems parents might do better moving to the city, paying less taxes and then sending their kids to Greece to go to school.

SCATS said...

To 3:33PM ~~ Yup, you DO understand correctly. However, the powers that be would tell you that ANYONE could attend the Kirk Rd. facility because it isn't income limited the way the Hoover school is. What they WON'T tell you is that ALL of the slots are already filled with city kids ... and future openings are likely to be filled with their siblings.