Wednesday, March 05, 2014

Will Greece Schools "Do The Right Thing?"


Good Deed Award Should Be Given
To Mary Jo Norgaard's Daughter

"On February 27, Greece Central School District officials became aware of a social media post that included an image of  Greece ASL teacher Sharon Duffy allegedly using inappropriate and offensive language during instructional time. Immediate action was taken to address the situation. Late today, the teacher submitted her resignation."

"As educators, we are advocates for students, their safety and achievement and can expect to be held to high standards of conduct at all times. We thank those who brought this troubling matter to our attention." ~~ Supt. Barbara Deane-Williams (Babs)
  

SCATS ~~ So Babs, if you REALLY mean what you say, then the PTA should be certain to include this brave kid in their next round of awards, right??

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

How about detention for having a camera in school???

Anonymous said...

You want to give this girl an award to making a big deal over nothing and costing a teacher her job?? Get serious people! She needs to be punished for using her cell phone during class time.

SCATS said...

Yes, I do :) The FACT is the union head AND the supt. BOTH agreed that this was appropriately resolved. The head of GTA said: "Unfortunately, a teacher who dedicated years of exceptional service to the school district, its students and the community made an error in judgment and has resigned her position. The Greece Teachers Association was aware of the issue, and worked collaboratively with the teacher and administration to resolve this swiftly and fairly."

The Supt. stated: "
"As educators, we are advocates for students, their safety and achievement and can expect to be held to high standards of conduct at all times. We thank those who brought this troubling matter to our attention."

I'm suggesting we thank her appropriately ;)

PS ~~ Bombarding the BLOG with the same comment over & over again will get you nowhere.

SCATS said...

BTW, the teacher resigned of her own accord. Makes me wonder what else is hiding in her closet ... hmmm ...

Anonymous said...

makes me wonder about your judgement in award giving. I don't think awards go to individuals who ruin the lives of others while breaking the rules themselves....just my opinion.

SCATS said...

To 3:17PM ~~ I certainly hope you don't reproduce given your tough judgement calls! You are having a tough time distinguishing between the teacher's DECISION TO RESIGN and the fantasy you entertain that she was "forced to resign." There is NO evidence she was "forced to do anything.

You also have FAILED to distinguish the difference between the teacher's position as ROLE MODEL, AUTHORITY FIGURE, LEADER, EMPLOYEE, etc. and the STUDENT'S.

SCATS said...

To the person who is "done with this BLOG" ~~ Since you are done, I guess it won't matter whether or not I post your comment :D

Anonymous said...

Scats talk about making an error in judgement,it appears you made a huge one with this thread. Just my humble opinion.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it. If the student hadn't caught the word and the teacher on camera, she would have had no proof and no one would have believed her. Even if they believed her there would be no proof for the superintendent to call the teacher out. Maybe all the students should be allowed to have their cell phones in school. Remind me why they can't? It seems as long as they aren't disturbing anyone with talking on them they should be allowed especially to discourage disturbing behavior by the staff. They really don't like it when they are recorded. So if the talk and actions are ok for the students to have to endure,it should be ok for the parents to hear. Are any of our classes skyped to other buildings? Wasn't that one of our goals under Steve Walts?
And now that this teacher was caught you can imagine they will be extra careful to make sure there are no cell phones around. Again is the rule no cell phones at all or just no cell phones on or no cell phones out and being seen and on? What is it?

Anonymous said...

SCATS, as a clarifying point to those who don't understand what was going on here: this teacher did not resign because of some profanity written on the board. This teacher resigned because of what the students had to actively do in her class. The point is made in scattered sentences throughout the news reporting, but if you read only the main lede then you are deceived as to what was going on.

The deception is stuff like "Mary Jo Norgaard says she couldn't stay silent after her daughter showed her a photo of the teacher writing a vulgar word on the smart board. On Tuesday night, Greece Olympia teacher Sharon Duffy resigned." That's from channel 10, and it leaves totally the wrong impression.

The reality (and you clearly know this, but your readers seem not to), culled from sentences deeper in the various news reports, is that the students had to "act out" that word: "Norgaard says her daughter told her it was part of a charades-type game that Duffy led in class", "Norgaard says her daughter told her it was a dirty word game in her American sign language class", "I think what was going on in the classroom was highly inappropriate and I really just wanted it to stop", "It was a game, it had nothing to do with ASL".

People, do you want your children required to perform simulated sex acts in front of their teachers and classmates? That is the issue here, nothing else. This is not about students reading dirty words on the board, it is about them acting out those words for their teachers and fellow students to critique. Do not be deceived by the misleading reporting. This was deeply depraved.

Anonymous said...

What rule did the student break? In case you have forgotten students are allowed to have cell phones in school now. The only one that broke any of the rilles is the teacher,

SCATS said...

To 5:24PM ~~ Guess again ;)

To 5:35PM ~~ I believe they are permitted to have their phones BUT not allowed to use them (or show them?) in class. I suspect taking the pic did break a rule, but then again, this rule NEEDED TO BE BROKEN in this instance.

To 6:41PM ~~ I see your point. I have stated it in several places about the STUDENTS HAVING TO ACT OUT THE WORD, but I guess it hasn't penetrated that deeply yet. I disagree that it's not about the word being on that board though. It's both. Can you imagine if Child Protective Services was called to a home and saw that hanging on the wall?

Anonymous said...

Scats, I actually share your opinion that this teacher was totally out of line and inappropriate. It's pretty unbelievable, really, that a professional who by all accounts is a smart and talented individual would do something like this. Should she have resigned? I really don't know. But what bothers me also is your total glee over this situation. You love nothing more than airing and talking about Greece's dirty laundry. And yes, it should be aired and talked about. But do you really have to enjoy it so much? I just get the impression that you live for this sort of thing. Really makes your day.

SCATS said...

To 10:55PM ~~ Excuse me!? PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE I USED ANY WORDS TO COMMUNICATE "TOTAL GLEE" and any sort of "ENJOYMENT" on my part about this sad and disgusting situation. The only thing I "enjoy" is the debate. I detest the fact our community's children are ever exposed to this sort of ridiculous exercise by those who SHOULD know better.

I won't hold my breath while I wait ;) (Oops! Do you interpret THAT as "joy?" It's not.)

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the article published by the Lib rag, The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle. You would think that this teacher was Mother Theresa for goodness sake! One "professional" that they quoted said that teachers should expect privacy in their classrooms to teach whatever and however they deem appropriate!
People are actually holding a benefit for a disgraced woman who encouraged children to act out explicitly sexual acts in a classroom setting. One father of an 8th grade girl said he would have no problem with that for his child.
The teacher is inappropriate, at best, around children, and the best some can come up with is questioning a brave young lady, who was clearly raised with morals, for having a cell phone in school?? SMH!

SCATS said...

To 11:36PM ~~ I suspect the few vocal supporters are more enraged about the fact her resignation stripped them of an opportunity to engage the district in some sort of circus sideshow type public meeting where they could show their support than the actual welfare of school kids in this town. It seems to be akin to the gladiator-type mentality many of the sports nuts exhibit.

Anonymous said...

There's much more to this story Scats. Stay on it. This teacher was forced to resign. Why? Over a picture and a brief lapse in judgement? Highly unlikely. Especially with the sharks that the teachers union payroll, aka lawyers. This woman was caught with much bigger skeletons. imho

SCATS said...

To 11:45PM ~~ Perhaps so, but as someone else pointed out, it was NOT only a pic. STUDENTS WERE MADE TO ACT OUT THE PIC FOR CLASSMATES! How degrading & humiliating that must have been.

There's just no plausible explanation for any of it. Period.

I've yet to see ANY of the girl's classmates in the ASL course say it wasn't true. That speaks volumes along with the union's and supt's press release statements.

Anonymous said...

Apparently you people do not recognize a possible set up when you see it play out right before your eyes. Shades of the Karen Klein fiasco . The only mistake was made by the teacher by playing the game.
That word had to come from one of the students, right?

How do we know that student, armed with her cell phone at the ready, didn't suggest that phrase hoping the teacher would put it on the list. A close inspection of the picture clearly shows the teacher adding two more words below the word that was blurred clearly bringing into question the timing sequence that follows. Think about it. Isn't it possible?
This in no way diminishes the fact that the teacher made a stupid mistake and in the final analysis , paid the ultimate price for a serious lapse in judgement.

SCATS said...

To 10:18AM ~~ The fact that a word LIST was used was explained early on. It was reported that by having other words on the board, anyone who might walk in unexpectedly would be watching the teacher erase ONLY the top word. The others would make it look as if they were working with them.

IF a student suggested that word, then it is obvious this teacher FAILED to discipline him/her! THAT IS PART OF HER JOB, like it or not.

Anonymous said...

All of this support for a teacher who clearly has no business teaching demonstrates what is so very wrong with our town. Shocking!!

Anonymous said...

This fiasco is getting more comments than Baxter. That's funny. Guess he wasn't as popular as his ego thought.

Anonymous said...

One important fact for the teacher to consider by making the decision to resign. By doing so, she avoided a possible 3020a dismissal hearing and most importantly keeps her State Certification to teach and move on to another position in another school district. For her, it was a no brainer. Why fight for a job in a district and community that has already tried, convicted and executed you.
With obvious talents , another district will be happy to get her.

SCATS said...

To 10AM ~~ You are funny! "Obvious talents" ... swearing like a marine! LMAO!!

The FACT remains that Sharon Duffy "ABRUPTLY RESIGNED." She had LEGAL COUNSEL & UNION REP. Methinks they BOTH TOLD HER TO QUIT ... while she was ahead.

Yup, she will get to teach again. It's called PASSING THE TRASH when you are let off-the-hook in one district so you can go terrorize the unsuspecting in another one. She should be proud! (tongue deep in cheek!)

Anonymous said...

Give me a break. this teacher could take lessons from Greece students about swearing, Dirty words and how to practice the word that caused all the problems in the first place Some if not most from first hand experience. Wake up for God sakes and face up to the sad reality of not only the sad state of ot our societies moral decline but the existance of that reality in our schools as well.
God owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology .

SCATS said...

To 4:37PM ~~ So your point is that Greece students know how to swear better than this teacher ... that's it?? Then you actually mention the decline of "morality" without holding THE TAXPAYER-PAID ROLE-MODEL/EMPLOYEE ACCOUNTABLE!?

GIVE ME A BREAK, INDEED! Duffy got off easy.

Anonymous said...

The difference is the teacher is an adult and it is her responsibility not only as an adult but her job as a teacher not to glorify or condone such behavior. She is being paid to teach them how to be prepared to go out in to the real world and be productive citizens. Not to condone their use of profanity. I am in agreement she was advised to resign because I am sure their were several indications that their were more skeletons in the closet. What other district would want to touch this with a ten foot pole.? An asset? More like a liability to wherever she lands next.

SCATS said...

To 10:37PM ~~ Don't you find it terribly disturbing that you and I and others have had to spell this out with such painstaking detail to her "supporters"? SMH ...

Anonymous said...

So if she resigned she can't get unemployment. She might not be able to get cobra benefits. Will she be a sub somewhere else? How many schools have a full time ASL teacher? Will she be one of those people that act as an escort to a special needs student? It would be interesting if she really didn't resign but was allowed to say she resigned to save face or as part of a deal. That would help her benefits regarding the above. In future she won't have to say why she left her previous job and they don't have to say what any issue was. They can only confirm her time of employment.
Is it possible that there was any law broken in the encouragement to have minors acting out certain words and phrases with her and other minors watching? Contributing to the delinquency of a minor? Endangerment? Remember she was not accused of just having them "sign" the list of words. They were to act out the word and have some classmate guess what the word was. How could one act out that word? Would that be considered "simulation of the conduct" which is part of the definition of sexual abuse in the Child Abuse and Treatment Act? Also look at 18 US Code 2251-sexual exploitation of children. And at the very least NY Penal code 260.10 endangering the welfare of a child. They were not just signing those words and that is why the teacher "resigned". If the school had let her remain they would have been facilitating this ongoing crime. They were not taking any chances. They are all still holding their breath that the DA or state do not get involved.

Anonymous said...

If the student took the time to take a pic of the offensive word, wheres the pic of the students being "forced" to "act out" the word?? Oh wait, it doesn't exist! No one was forced to act anything out. Get over your self righteous selfs and focus on the real issues.. teach your child to take responsible for their actions, and allow the educator to take responsible for hers.. PERIOD!!!

SCATS said...

To 9:13AM ~~ Lots of great questions, but no answers. Typical Greece.

To 11:31AM ~~ How can a pic show someone acting out something?? Oh wait, it can't!!

The students were responsible to the extent they showed up for class and did what their AUTHORITY FIGURE, teacher Duffy, told them to do! I'm sure the student who took the pic risked getting caught & having the EVIDENCE taken.

I give her TONS of credit for her bravery.

I take some small comfort in knowing that Duffy's future employers only need to Google her name to see how she goes about teaching. Let's all hope they avail themselves of the opportunity to learn the truth.

Anonymous said...

Scats, please tell me what you feel the oppropriate punishment should have been meated out because of. this lapse in judgement by this teacher, She suffered the loss of her employment isn't that sufficient. You seem to want blood which is not surprising considering your negativity toward the profession in general especially Greece. She guit, case closed. No more opportunities to iviscorate her on this site. Too bad! And thank God.
The boo birds on this site are already accusing her of previous transgressions. Also a hall mark of some who post here.
I think the point 4:37 was trying to make is clear but ignored. Our so called innocent youngsters are not so innocent when it comes to the subject of carnal knowledge practices and languages associated with same.
Statistics and studies ( Brockport and Geece) indicate that those children in the middle school ages, are sexually active. This is in stark contrast to twenty or so years ago. The problem, what do we do about it and who has the responsibility to correct this fact? Is it the responsibility of the parent or the teacher to point out to these youngsters the short comings if their individual behavior. I think most would agree I t is a parental responsibility . The teacher, being exposed to this behavior,is not. Try putting yourself in a teachers position when she tells a student that he or she is engaging in non acceptable behavior . What do you think probably would be the response . How about FU, FO YOU BITCH ! An exercise in futility . That being said, the teacher has the obligation to not exasperate the situation as this teacher unfortunately did. It is not her job to teach morality to her students. That job is reserved exclusively for responsible parenting which unfortunately gone to hell in this generation of parents.
Therein lies the problem as I see it.






SCATS said...

To 1:58PM ~~ Your question, if I correctly read inbetween the numerous misspellings/wrong words) is moot. DUFFY VOLUNTARILY QUIT! No one forced her out!! She DECIDED her own fate. Obviously, she was smart enough to know she had NO POSSIBLE DEFENSE of her ridiculous deeds.

This isn't a discussion about what the kids know, or don't know, given their age. It's not about their morals.

As a role-model, authority figure and district employee, it IS about the teacher, her professional duties and how she carried them out, PERIOD.

PS ~~ Did you graduate HS?

Anonymous said...

IMHO - Duffy resigned due to the advice of many people - District Admin pressure, GCSD School Board, attorneys, GTA, and NYSUT Union representatives who probably advised against trying to defend herself against undocumented charges and a public who had already been biased. We can debate whether the picture was real or photoshopped, what evidence was given in interviews, and any other OPINIONS being spewed about. The reality is that none of you posting know all the facts, if any. We are all biased, SCATs included. It's all opinion and as I've seen in other threads, many unanswered questions remain.

Anonymous said...

1:58- Apparently this mother did teach her daughter morals, and what is indecent an unacceptable and you people want to crucify her for it. Your talking out of both sides of your face yet consider yourself a morality authority. God bless this young lady and her mother!

SCATS said...

To 6:46PM ~~ So when Babs said the photo was "authentic" you call it "opinion?" I'd hate to have YOU on a jury.

To 7:24PM ~~ AGREED!

ENOUGH HAS BEEN SAID. THIS TEACHER WAS SO FAR OFF-BASE NO ONE CAN DEFEND HER USING ANY LOGIC! THIS THREAD IS CLOSED UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO ADD (which is doubtful).