Sunday, January 26, 2014

BOE Meeting, Tuesday @6:30PM

It is anticipated that the BOE will go into an Exec. Session at 6:00PM to discuss collective bargaining, the employment history of particular person(s) & pending litigation.


Athletic Program Evaluation

Capital Projects Review ~~
A December, 2014 voter referendum would be required to meet a 2016, 2017, 2018 construction schedule for the second phase of projects.



Anonymous said...

Friday night lights are on the way at no cost to the district
Don't worry about your precious wallets in this instance.

SCATS said...

To 3:21PM ~~ "At no cost to the district" is NOT THE SAME AS ZERO COST TO THE TAXPAYER ;)

Besides the construction/equipment costs upfront, there will be lots of ongoing costs to the community.

Anonymous said...

Not if it comes by way of donations from responsible members of this community as it should and would be.
Why all the shouting? What's wrong with this initiative if it doesn't cost tax dollars.? Do you view this as a negative project and why? It might become a source of community pride given the fact that all surrounding towns have these facilities that were tax payer supported when.accomplished. Why shouldn't GCSD, the largest in the area, have at least one lighted athletic fiield as well.
If you are against this community supported initiative, properly implimented and regulated with minimal maintenence costs. Energy cost paid for by sports booster sports booster clubs and fund raisers and user charges.,please tell us why! Your thoughts.

SCATS said...

To 10:29AM ~~ Obviously, you've had a good long chug from the Kool-Aid jug.


Will the Sports Boosters set up a fund to mitigate depreciated property values for those whose homes adjoin school fields?? NO?? I didn't think so!

Anonymous said...

How does a lighted sports field depreciate property values. Most of the schools have been in place for a long time. It's not like these people bought a house and suddenly a school appeared.

Anonymous said...

Obviously you would be opposed under any and all circumstances what so ever. First, an existing field would be used. The choice would be the one least likely to impact near by properties. Perhaps one that already has a complete perimeter fence. A perimeter fence would be a necessity for obvious reasons you are aware of. Light pollution would be held to a minimum with curfew times, Public safety personnel would enforce on street parking regulations on streets adjacent to the field during activities. Therefore I fail to see the credibility in your argument.
Unfortunately, your NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD stance, is the very thing that keeps Greece a stagnant unimaginative town resistant to any sort of forward progress and feeds the regressive thinking that infects this town.

SCATS said...

To 12:30PM ~~ LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION! WHO buys a home in the suburbs with a stadium in the backyard?? Last I heard, it's NOT in demand.

To 12:54PM ~~ TY for admitting upfront one of the ONGOING costs to taxpayers: " Public safety personnel" ... In addition to parking, they will be needed for traffic & crowd control, loitering, rowdiness ... etc.

Obviously, you believe you can read minds, so please tell me what number I'm thinking of? It's between 1 and 10,000.

Anonymous said...

Scats look around. Who buys a house near an express way, Case in point, pricey homes with 390 in their back yards. the new tract on Janes Rd where a car leaving one sections lands on their roof. People bought them inspite of this and and the noise 24/7 So that's an empty argument.
Public safety personnel I refer to would be unpaid auxiliaries that are routinely used for special events. Again no costs no merit to your argument
My answer based on your arguments 00,000

SCATS said...

To 3:22PM ~~ WHAT are you talking about?? " a car leaving one sections lands on their roof." What does that even mean? When has it happened???

Public safety "personnel" are paid cops, not volunteer wannabes with no weapon and no way to really keep order.

As for my arguments, I called 2 real estate agents that I know and asked how often people request looking at homes with lighted fields in the backyard. Both were puzzled by my question until I explained. Neither has fielded (pun intended) any such requests.

By the way, how quickly you forget that the neighbors of Athena didn't want to live down the street, or across the street, from Bryant & Stratton. The most notable quote being "We don't want to see them, hear them, or smell them."

The number I was thinking of had several zeroes: it was 10,000 ;)

On a lighter note, this quote seems appropriate here: "Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." ~~ Joe Theismann

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 10:29 + 12:54 I will assume the same person. My comments are not meant to burst your bubble but everything you list has been talked about for 25+ years by some very good people even to the point where private money was being raised via the carnival at Greece Mall.
The following comments ARE meant to burst your bubble.
We had until 2006 or 2007 a 'C' average rule for sports - it was watered down thanks to administration and a majority of the board much to my objections. IT WORKED - it was simple - straight forward and it held 'the kid' accountable. As I said it was watered down to the point where no one knew what it meant or who was in charge - therefore anything went.
2 items come to mind as I read what is being proposed - I have NO IDEA what it means with lots of different people interpreting the meaning.
If you want to get community support to spend more of their money on sports and extra activities you darn well better be able to show educational improvement as a result.

PS; this could be a good time to turn over new leaf (so to speak) - don't tell us that 'the state' is paying - that is taxpayer $$ and that type of 'irresponsible speak' needs to stop.

Anonymous said...

That school got built any way. The motivation against it was purely racial in my opinion. Ask your realtor friend if they experienced a mass exodus from that area as a result? didn't happen, won't happen and it's no longer an issue.
Charlie, nothing you say about sports programs would surprise anyone who knows your long held position on School sports and paying physical education teachers more than the minimum wage. I suggest you and scats are in no Position to judge the educational value of athletics in our school systems. Your only concern has always centered around costs, nothing else.

Scat again you are wrong. The auxiliary police are now considered Peace Officers by the state and town. They are non paid personnel who work under the direction the Chief of police, In other words they are volunteers.
They drive " retired" police vehicles during traffic control and crowd control events. They differ from the paid Public Safety officers who patrol and enforce parking restriction in our shopping centers ie handicap and fire lane laws.But you knew that .
Sports has always been a four letter word on this site so it makes no sence to continue this discussion.

SCATS said...

To 8:08PM ~~ You are REALLY out of touch! Do you even live in Greece?? Drive down Long Pond Rd. towards Athena. What do you see? I see one "For Sale" sign after another, after another!

As for "peace officers" I'm well aware of what they are and do. As I said and as you confirmed, they are VOLUNTEERS, not cops. I've heard that anyone who ever attended a Citizens Police Academy is encouraged to apply! lol

Maybe to you sports is a four letter word, but that probably makes perfect "sence" (sic) to you and your pals who view education as the ugly stepchild in this district - always getting short-changed to protect non-essential programs of questionable value.

Something ALL potential neighbors to a lighted field should be concerned about is the FACT that GCSD will only have to abide by State Ed laws, not local ordinances. So once that stadium is sitting behind your bedroom window there is always the possibility that a 24 hr. a day carnival for fundraising and other such events can be held on the property without regard to noise and other ordinances.

Wanna buy a house, 8:08PM?? I thought not ;)

Anonymous said...

What ever happened to the idea of using the park on English Road for a lighted field?

Anonymous said...

10:29...even though they are voluntary contributions, where do you think the sports boosters clubs get their money?
And if I gave you a house free and clear you would still have to pay for the upkeep of that house and the cost of all the people that did work at that house and for all the energy at that house and you would have to clean that house and you would have to make sure that house was secure and you would have to insure that house. So a sports field with astroturf and lights ...even if it is donated at it's initial level.....still will be the responsibility of the taxpayers of this district to keep up. Also if I gave you a house you would have to pay the tax on that house...not so for a lighted astroturf field. But we will have to pay for the rest of the expenses. So free doesn't last very long.

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that we do not have at least one lighted field. Makes our community look second rate in the eyes of others. My vote would be to place it in the Olympia complex for reasons of access & egress. It would also be impressive driving down 390 & see events at a lit field at night.

SCATS said...

To 6:05PM ~~ Pssst! Don't look now but Greece IS second rate ... especially in the realm of academic achievements!

As for how a lighted field would look from 390, WHO CARES? That isn't worth spending $1 on.