Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Squeezing It In ...


Planning Board Meeting, TONIGHT @6:30pm

749 Maiden Ln, Rochester, NY



Applicant: Maiden, LLC

Location: 749 Maiden Lane - BEHIND TOPS INTNL

Request: Site plan review for a proposed senior citizen residential facility (one story; 55,300± square feet), with related parking, grading, landscaping, and utilities on approximately 6.22 acres

Zoning District: RMS (Multiple-Family Residential – Senior Citizen)

Mon. Co. Tax No.: 075.05-2-3.2



SCATS ~~  Who will rescue seniors who fall into the retention ponds?

17 comments:

Charlie Hubbard said...

They no doubt will be looking for COMIDA tax breaks paid for by the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Seems like a reasonable place to have such a facility. Drug Stores, Groceries near by, Police just a few hundred feet away.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ You are probably right! Does ANYTHING (aside from private residences) get built without tax breaks in Monroe County??

To 11:38AM ~~ Reasonable??? LOL!!! Right across the street from a grade 6-12 school, too! Maybe the kiddies can help fish Grandma & Grandpa out of the retention ponds as part of their "Community Service" requirements. Oh wait ... no swimming classes for these privileged kids! Nevermind ...

Anonymous said...

Is there any place in Greece that isn't within walking distance of at least one school? Why does the presence of a grade school cause you concern?

Anonymous said...

Beware. It is possible that the ponds will disappear. Then where will the runoff go? Ask the people that live just north of the senior facility built by the same developer on Latta Rd. Greece apparently didn't get too fussy with the drainage issues there.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Charlie and George are going to move there, to be closer to school board meetings?

SCATS said...

To 2:18PM ~~ Odyssey is NOT "a grade school." Next time, please engage brain before spewing.

To 2:55PM ~~ I had that exact same thought! As I recall, this area was deemed "wetlands" when Tops was built.

To 5:17PM ~~ Do they even waste their time attending meetings these days?

Anonymous said...

10:10 wrong again. if the land is vacant the taxes are 4,000 per year now. If they build this and get COMIDA (no one says they will) and they receive all the comida tax breaks the tax go from today 4,000 to 14,000 and next year 24,000 and year three 34,000 and on until year ten 104,000. so each year there contribution is helping to lower my residential taxes. I wish Charlie would stop complaining about paying his fair share.

SCATS said...

To 9:31PM ~~ Show us where you got those numbers, please.

Regarding COMIDA: Don't forget there is ALWAYS the "promise" they will create new jobs. Seldom do they meet the goal. When they don't, there's no repercussion at all.

Anonymous said...

The same corp owns that property of tops and this parcel. They have had a comida agreement since 1994. Subscribed again in 2004. And it looks like another one for 3507 Mt Read aka 741 Maiden Lane in Jan 20,2012. Maiden LLC is successor to Maiden associates who is mark IV of the DiMarzo's. On the county website it says this other connected parcel 749 Maiden Lane is owned by "Regency at Maiden Park LLC" which is another Mark IV. This transfer happened June 18, 2013.
There is covenant from 2011 concerning that property. It can't change its SF2 zoning. Nor can any of the subsequent owners. So there has to be more than a simple request for a zoning change. The neighbors should look into this. That seem like a very rigorous use of the property. And no amount of tax benefit will be enough to make up for the runoff caused by the foundation for the massive structure and pavement. And there will be added traffic in and out that will further mess up the terrible traffic flow near the light at Tops and Odyssey. And also realize that many of these residential facilities are tax exempt.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm... Seems like they have been able to manage the extraordinary risk of a retention pond at Legacy Park Crescent on Mt Read Blvd without incident. Its proximity to a middle school (.7 miles away) hasn't caused the sky to fall in either. I vote yes for this reasonable project.

SCATS said...

To 8:04AM ~~ Who in their right mind would walk down a busy road like Mt. Read Blvd? NOBODY!!

There's a huge difference between .7 miles away and being directly across the street ... but then you KNEW this ;)

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 9:31 (anonymous)
As long as you chose to make it personal I will tell you your posting represents what should be referred to as 'convenient ignorance'. The numbers you refer to of course are made up. The fact is when comida approves tax breaks they never publish those numbers therefore we never know the impact on 'our' tax bills. Actually there is strong indication 'they' don't know or don't care.
Before I get to the real problem - a couple of questions.
WHO is comida?
Who do they represent?
Who elected them? NO ONE
What oversight do they have - and by who?
Their name contains the word 'industrial development' NOT retail.
Now the real problem and yes I have been trying to get the attention of our elected officials. When a 'committee' like comida wants to give out tax breaks in our town they must first get approval via open vote of the town board and for a tax break in our county an open vote of our elected officials at the county legislature - PERIOD - that's called 'representative government'. That's called 'good government' and THAT 9:31 is far more important to me than MY tax bill - get it?

Anonymous said...

8:04. Yes a retention pond would be fine. As long as it doesn't get foul smelling like the one on this property does every so often. But in order to build on the property, the pond is going to be eliminated. I'm not talking about people drowning in a pond. You are attempting to deflect and misdirect. Where has that happened before? There is a major issue with properties on Dohrcrest just north of the Fleming facility on Latta. There were no measure taken to make sure that the development didn't cause adjacent properties to flood. Same developer, Maiden assoc or Maiden LLC or MarkIV, or regency. All the same with the same preferential treatment by Greece town.

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Anonymous said...

Where is this land?

SCATS said...

To 3:11AM ~~ On Maiden Ln surrounding Tops' retention ponds.

Anonymous said...

One important relevant fact to keep in mind when talking about Mark 1V influence in this town is the fact that former Greece Supervisor, Don Riley is the point man for DiMarzo in Greece. Don was a big factor years back when he successfully lobbied the zoning board to get the Tops store built much to the chagrin of Bob Wegman. His nfluence will be a factor again.