Monday, July 15, 2013

Town Board Meeting, Tues. @6PM


AGENDA

From Todd Baxter, Chief of Police
 
13. Authorization to approve an Inter-municipal Cooperative

Agreement with the Town of Parma, Village of Hilton, Hilton Fire
Department and the Hilton Parma Fire District for Special Police

services for the Hilton Fire Department Carnival. (WHY??)


16. Authorization to enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with

the FBI regarding use of the Town’s firearms range by the FBI.
   

 

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Concerning your WHY. Why what? Your question needs clarification.

SCATS said...

Definition of WHY: for what cause, reason, or purpose ...

Anonymous said...

Why...because the Hilton Fire Dept asked for some neighborly help. Reason...it is a big event and they don't have the resources to do traffic control. The Greece Special Police are trained for traffic Control. Purpose...volunteerism allows the Hilton Fire Dept. to reap more benefit from the carnival. To pay for MC Sheriffs overtime would cost a lot of money.
I can't help but wonder why SCATS is opposed to volunteerism? There is NO cost to Greece. The town has to OK it as a matter of law. It is a formality. This is a great example of a community enjoying a fundraising event with minimal overhead cost and profits going directly to the fire department.

SCATS said...

To 11:53AM ~~ "Opposed to volunteerism?" LMAO!! This BLOG represents close to EIGHT YEARS of VOLUNTARISM!

Hilton's "minimal costs" have already been eaten by Greece taxpayers who trained the "special police" right through our annual budget?? Don't tell me there is NO COST to having the special ed cops, because I'm not that gullible.

The point is, if you are going to do without your own police dept. like Hilton has chosen to do, then MAYBE they should pay OT to MCSO.

WHY? Because it would be the FUNCTIONAL, LOGICAL thing to do! And our town board should tell them so.

Anonymous said...

Hilton/Parma has a Special Police force, they even have a Command Trailer.

The Hilton/Parma Special PoPo have fallen into disfavor with the Village of Hilton for pissin on somebody's shoes, and are unwelcome within the Village of Hilton.

Hilton is also STILL a Volunteer Fire Department, NO UNION paid firefighters. So is Hilton's Ambulance Corps.

Lets face it though, the Wannabe PD of Greece didn't get a lot of playtime pissin off the public in 2013 because Bill Grace's MONEY MAKING Sports Park which the Greece Assessor refuses to address, didn't have fireworks this July 4th. The team needs play time.

Greece Taxpayers who are getting ripped off by Bill Grace's Sports Park gotta pay so the team can play. DON'T even dare to ask how much controll Bill Grace has over the Wannabe PD. That is off the table. You understand Off The Table? If you don't, Code Compliance and the Assessor will stop by your place & splain it to you.

Anonymous said...

Scats, you have missed the point of question. My question had nothing to do with meaning of the word but what it referred to I your post. Was it WHY? Are they doing this or WHY. Does Baxter need board approval? Two altogether
application of the word Why in your post.
You needed reply as the preceding posts answer your intent.
Why does he need board permission is a little more involved than his been posted so far. The board must approve the detail because it involves the use of Town Eguipment! Cars, operating out of limits of the town where liability concerns like insurance and use be addressed. Also the out lay of town funds for fuel for the cars to be used. This is a great example of intergovernmental cooperation in action. I can remember many times in past winters, the Parma highway department would dispatch plows to Greece to help us with snow removal. So what' s your problem
As far as your eight years go, So, another question comes to mind . Who asked you?

SCATS said...

To 6:32PM ~~ My question was about ALL of the things brought up so far. Your response is barely understandable, but LIABILITY jumps off the page! WHY should Greece taxpayers eat potential liability for another town's "fundraiser" when that town opted out of having the services Greece taxpayers opted to have & pay for?

Your example of snow removal is an apples to oranges comparison since snowplowing is provided by ALL communities, not just some opting to tax their peasants more for "extra" services duplicated by another existing institution (such as MCSO).

Your last question is completely irrelevant and merely intended to TRY to change the subject. It didn't work ;)

So I'll ask again: "WHY is Greece getting involved in this AND at what potential cost should some incident occur?"

For some reason, this reminds me of Baxter getting all pumped up to box last August ... and then he took out RPD Lt. Scott Peters. I wonder if Greece is paying for that? It was another "charitable" cause ;)

Anonymous said...

2:53 The town could have held the fireworks in any of it's parks, The rub is that First Bible refuses to donate the fire works cost due to a falling out with Auburger and his moral compass. Since sometime ago, Wegmans stop funding the event, First Bible stepped into the breach. The fault lies with the town for not looking for away to offset the cost, As a result no show.
As far as charge for use goes, even though your taxes supported the creation of our park system, special permit users must pay to play. The same applies to GCSD. Exemple! Ask what the cost is to use APAC for one night unless you are a registered NPC.
Since the church owned the property and therefore tax exempt, they have every right to charge a fee to offset the cost of maintenence as the town and district do. The difference being, SED Law requires districts to charge a fee.

SCATS said...

To 10:23AM ~~ Regarding fireworks for Greece, it appears to be LOST on most of our politicians that NOT funding/providing an annual community celebration in THE LARGEST TOWN IN THE COUNTY makes us look like the white trash dumpster we've evolved into! Other much smaller communities hold annual fireworks without any involvement by a religious group, and Greece should too!

As for GCSD & "pay to use" goes, I do not believe this is some state mandated notion. It came about after numerous budget defeats in the 1990's and the district sought to recoup $$ for janitorial services, utilities, etc. At one point, they tried to charge even the various Scout groups!

Anonymous said...

I was at the IJC lake level discussions and I asked Reilich about fireworks. He said he would bring them back next year. He said the town needs to have a community event to bring the residents together. He said he it would be more than fireworks on that day.

SCATS said...

To 11:30AM ~~ More than fireworks?? Maybe more scandals?? lol Can't wait!

Anonymous said...

Gee, I can hardly wait.
Maybe Reilich will bring his car collection in from the car barn he and Antelli worked on all year.

Maybe the Greece Wannabe PD can guard all of Reilich's cars.
It will certainly be bigger than Park it in Parma or Hamlin Wheelfest. Undoubtedly rival Hilton Applefest car show too.

Meanwhile Bill Grace will continue to enjoy special taxation on his Profit Center Sports Park, unlike Barnard Exempts who has to pay property tax.

WHY Isn't Bill Graces Profit Park properly assessed and taxed? Leo Carol, white assessor phone please.

Anonymous said...

Check it out for yourself. Regarding APAC. If a for profit group like Garth Fagan dancers want to use the facility, they would have to pay the usage fee, plus return 90% of the proceeds to the District. The reason,it is illegal for taxpayer funded facilities to be used by FOR PROFIT PRIVATE enterprises.

SCATS said...

To 3:27PM ~~ I already checked Section 414 of NYSED law which states that the BOE MAY charge for use, period.

Anonymous said...

I suggest you call the legal division as I did and see if you get the same answer I got regarding private for profit promotions usage of school facilities.

SCATS said...

To 6:16AM ~~ You must be an employee or BOE member or former BOE member. Last I knew, the legal beagles stopped dealing with questions from mom & pop citizen types years ago. I used to be an avid caller.

For me, reading the law in print will usually trump anything some intern tells me by phone. If it's dealt with under NYSED, then it should be in print someplace where we can all read it.

Anonymous said...

You are remarkable"! Again you find away to talk around an issue that some of us might know more than you do. You just do not have the ability tio accept that fact. So sad.Your assumptions as to who I might be is in the same category as me assuming I know your identity . i do not nor do I have any interest in knowing. By the way, I did not talk to an intern but a lawyer in the law department. At any rate I suggest you call the district and ask the question regarding APAC and Private enterprise usage for profit, Also ask if this is district policy or State Policy. If you do, be sure you tell them that you are not the boy scouts etc, but a commercial enterprise. Might I suggest Nick and the Nice Guys.
a bit of irony here. If Nick and the Nice Guys were permitted use of APAC to profit from it, you would be the first one to complain about use of tax payer subsidized facilities for private enterprise.

SCATS said...

To 10:45AM ~~ Even more remarkable, I think YOU need to look over GCSD policy and show us WHERE your claim is stated in their written policy (not that they follow them). I didn't find it in the amongst verbiage, but did find the references to Section 14 of NYSED law.

Anonymous said...

Regarding 2:06 You must be Dave Garretson, can you get off the car collection? You tried to make that the focus of your race and got your arsh handed to you. More people enjoy the hobby of an old car than you apparently could ever realize. I even have one in my garage.

Anonymous said...

Since I don't have access to BOE policy, and it quite possible that you do, I will defer to you on the absence of a written policy regarding our discussion. However, I can only stand on my phone conversation with a lawyer at SED. Further discussion between us on this subject would not be of any value and is of no consequence as far as I'm concerned.


SCATS said...

To 1:38PM ~~ GCSD policy is posted on the BOE's BoardDocs website for ALL to see ;)