Monday, July 29, 2013

Thanks, Maggie!

 
Monroe County leads the nation in property taxes as a percentage of assessed value.
 
Residents pay 2.89 % of their home value in taxes.
 
  

31 comments:

Charlie Hubbard said...

Thanks to the tax breaks granted by COMIDA virtualy guarantees us continuing to be #1. The focus of COMIDA has been on giving those policicaly connected lots of breaks to be paid for by the rest of us common folks. I never thought I would see the day when tax breaks would be approved for restaurants or rental properties or other retail outlets and all must be paid for by 'us'. Yes we want to be #1 in something.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ As soon as I read the info about Monroe County, I immediately thought of the COMIDA giveaways. I wonder what our taxes would be if we weren't propping up an abundance of mediocre chain restaurants on Ridge Road?

Anonymous said...

I wonder what our taxes would be without Baby Cuomo's and FED mandates.
How low could we go without taxing Fire Districts accountable to nobody?

Charlie Hubbard said...

Isn't it interesting that we are never told the impact of these tax breaks on the rest of us - THAT is a true lack of 'respect'.

Anonymous said...

I love COMIDA! Tax breaks for "upscale" senior rentals off English Rd. If there is a demand for upscale senior rentals why will they not be built without a subsidy? If this builder doesn't build them, then someone else will see the demand and do the same thing

Just plain squirrely logic!

THis kind of logic will have every single project that is ever proposed seeking these tax breaks.

Give me a break!

Anonymous said...

While we are at it, let's add in all of the other "Non-profit" organizations in our communities such as churches and their properties, all the colleges and thier billions in endowments, hosiptals, VFW Posts, American Legion, Red Cross, Salvation Army, Missions, etc.
What is the value of the property of the U of R and Strong Hospital?
Lets now add in all of the PAC's that quote are "not political" that pay no taxes.
My guess is "Non-propfits" would added up to 30-40% of the assess value of the county.
By the way the NFL, not the individual teams but the NFL organization/structure is officially a "non-profit" organizatins

Enjoy

Doug

SCATS said...

To 5:20AM ~~ I tend to agree! Thank you.

To Doug ~~ Your point is well made! Geneva is an excellent local example where most all of the best/prime real estate is held by a "non-profit" (university) and so the rest of the town suffers and struggles as a result. But at least they aren't leading the country with property taxes, like Monroe County is ;)

Anonymous said...

I look at my tax bill, and over 50% is school tax. Why are you blaming Maggie? Another point to make in regards to taxation...taxes are used to pay for the cost of services. Should we not look at the cost of these services? If wages and benefits were reduced, then the need to raise this amount of revenue would be less. If pensions weren't generous and if they weren't paid from future taxes, we would need less revenue and thus less taxes. I never understood or agreed with the concept of businesses paying large sums of taxes to support the excessive spending of the public sector. Eventually, the private sector was going to say enough, and they would take their business elsewhere. Something had to give. Reducing the tax burdon on the private sector had to happen. Otherwise, jobs would leave the area and then who would pay taxes?

Anonymous said...

I love the idea of a "retention" tax break.
Give me a tax break and I might stay. Give me a tax increase and I will move.

Where do I apply?

Anonymous said...

SCATS

Seneca County has the added problems of the Native Americans (Indians) buying up all available farm land from all the casino money. When they do that, the newly purchased land becomes part of their "Sovereign Seneca Nation" with no town, school or county taxes do. If an Indian lives and works in their "Sovereign County"
they do not pay any state or federal income taxes in addition to no property taxes.

Doug Skeet




SCATS said...

To 11:40AM ~~ There are TWO tax bills. I know a lot about the school taxes, etc. The tax bill for town & county services keeps rising. Maggie hit us with increased "fees" and plays games by separating out plowing costs (last year if I'm not mistaken). Guess what? She's in hot water right now for her LDC deals. Read about the issue in the D&C article:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130730/NEWS01/307300041/Dennis-Vacco-Maggie-Brooks

SCATS said...

To 2:14PM ~~ Please get in line right behind me :) lol

Another excellent point, Doug.

Anonymous said...

Unfunded state and federal mandates are the biggest problem as far as I'm concerned. We also need to investigate and reign in social service fraud as well. So many people lie to get their (our) social service. It's amazing to see people with average jobs buy $500,000 houses in other states and here I couldn't afford the taxes alone on it!

Anonymous said...

SCATS the 7 eleven store on Dewey near Stone was robbed last week. No mention of it in the news and various neighborhood watch.groups were also not notified. How's that for open and honest GPD?

SCATS said...

To 8:45PM ~~ Well, the truth is they really don't want the mainstream populace to realize what a toilet the area between Mt. Read and the eastern boundary to the city has become! Oddly, the cops know this very well. The crime in the Dewey-Stone area has been a problem for a few years, despite foot patrols, bike patrols, added car patrols ... how's that for ineffective policing?

Anonymous said...

To 7/30/13 @ 5:00PM.......so just what ARE those unfunded State and Federal mandates??? You sound like a school district mouthpiece trying to justify our huge tax burden.

It does not matter whether it is the town, county, village, city or school district, they all spout the "unfunded mandate" mantra to place blame elsewhere. The vast majority of any municipal budget is made up of generous salaries and benefits for public employees. And of course let's not forget the pension costs. NOT unfunded mandates.

If you want to claim unfunded mandates as a cause for our outragously high taxes than PLEASE give us several examples and the corresponding costs associated with them. I will be waiting for your answer.

Anonymous said...

Scats. It would seem to me that what you say the PD is doing is effective policing. It's an obvious attempt to deal with the problems that exist in this part of your town.
The main mission of any PD is public safety and crime PREVENTION. What your PD is employing to combat the problems in that area, is known as Saturation patroling in PROFESSIONAL circles. This method is designed to attempt to prevent criminal activity in a particular area. The City PD employs the same proceedure. Even with this kind of patroling, it is impossible to prevent all criminal activity as those assigned can't possibly be every where at every minute.
The effectiveness of this method is difficult to measure simply because it will never be known how much potential criminal activity was prevented by use of this method.
Perhaps in your learned experiences, you might enlighten us as to how you would have your PD do it better.

Anonymous said...

7:08. How about Medicad, clean air act, Americans with disabilities act, Megan's law, AED's, No child left behind. The list is very long. Go to upstate conservatives.org if you want to see the whole list. The federal and state government mandate the lower government entities to enact without providing funding. I am a homeowner not anyone associated with the school district. NY is one of a few if not the only state that has income tax and high property taxes yet we are in worse shape then most states! Florida and Texas have no income tax and much lower property taxes and they are thriving states.

SCATS said...

To 10:34AM ~~ How can you call it "effective policing" when by your own admission the effectiveness of what they are doing can't be measured? LOL!!!

It seems to me that what they are doing isn't working as well as they would like. Given that, Chief Todd & his Capts. need to rethink, take stock, change what they are trying.

By the way, I'm not getting $100+ K/year to get crime under control at Dewey/Stone, but Baxter & his buds are ;) They need to do it differently.

Anonymous said...

Scats That's no answer. they need to do it differently. Define differently. Again , how would you do it differently . Obviously, your not making $ 100.000 but you seem to know more than those professionals so give us the benefit of your wisdom on patrol techniques, Who knows it might be something worth considering, In the mean time criticism without a possible fix is inconsequential and only meant to be inflammatory and self serving.

Anonymous said...

There are very few officers patrolling the Dewey Stone area ever since Walmart opened. They moved farther down Dewey. And as for foot patrols, those are far and few as well. Two officers walking down Dewey one warm day in May is considered foot patrol? Haven't seen any of them on foot patrol since then.

SCATS said...

To 5:39PM ~~ And I rarely see the bike patrols these days either. They were more visible when school was in session.

SCATS said...

To 4:35PM ~~ As you can see, someone else and I have both noticed an apparent LACK of patrols! Maybe Baxter changed what he was doing before ... and maybe that was effective. It's HIS JOB to deal with it, not mine! If he can't do it better, let's get a different chief, simple.

Anonymous said...

Just as I thought. Nothing more than Baxter baiting. Besides, if you haven't noticed it's summer. Even cops are entitled to vacations, During this period all watches work short handed to some degree . Replacing these cops, off duty cops would have to be called in or some officer be required to work double shifts. In either case it would not be cost efficient as this practice would result in overtime for those officers. Wouldn't you and others on this site have field day with that development .

Anonymous said...

Scats:
interesting article about ole Meg. Thought you might enjoy the read. Keep up the good work on open communication with your blog.
http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130731/CITYANDREGION/130739883/1010

SCATS said...

To 6:27PM ~~ LMAO!! You are too funny!!! This is Greece where we pay cops OVERTIME PAY to play cop in the halls of the schools! The idea that OT pay is unusual to anyone in GPD is absurd!

To 8:08PM ~~ Someone on Facebook shared that earlier today ... I even wrote a note to the reporter. Very interesting indeed.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Getting back to the subject matter.
We must look to Detroit and be honest enough to look at the simalarities of our government(s).
Is our area attractive for companies to move here - hell no unless they are making something to be puchased by a government entity.
Detroit's biggest problem is the spending of money they did not have. In order to pay the bills taxes must be raised and before long no one wanted to be there because of taxes - sound familiar?
Detroit also tried to be cute by giving tax breaks to 'some' or the 'connected' which of course made the situation worst by increasing the taxes on the rest to pay for these tax breaks.
Of course Detroit also was with the mindset that if you throw enough money at a problem - the problem will go away but at least you can tell the voters you care - no follow/up to judge success, just feelings - sound familiar?

SCATS said...

To Charlie Hubbard ~~ Put that way, yes, it sounds much too familiar! I hadn't compared us to Detroit, but I can see the similarities. I wonder if Detroit's leaders suffered the same kind of denial/dysfunction that our County Exec & Supervisors suffer from ...?

Charlie Hubbard said...

We may have a perfect example recently when Valeant bought Bausch + Lomb and plans to move part of it to New Jersey. Rather than asking why or what Jersey has to offer that we don't most of our politicians sign on to a letter chastising the company that would pi## off any company head. WE (the politicians) have had B+L here for over 100 years and WE are entitled to keep it here - how dare they make a move without OUR blessing. There is a reason why they are moving (no-I don't know why) real 'leaders' would be asking why.

Anonymous said...

Meh, in dollar terms our taxes aren't too bad, compared to downstate, Jersey, or even most of Pennsylvania. What is out of kilter in the tax rate is not the numerator but the denominator - our real estate is suspiciously cheap.

That's just a supply and demand message - people look into their crystal balls, and most see a bleak future, so few want to move here from elsewhere and many want to move elsewhere from here.

To get our tax rates lower we need to boost our home values, not drop our tax bills. And to do that we need commonsense regulation that encourages business and attracts new residents while retaining existing ones, and a whole lot of other things that aren't directly tax-related but have effects on taxes indirectly.

SCATS said...

To 3:55PM ~~ If you are correct (I'm not convinced that you are), do you think they'd raise the value without taking even more in taxes? I don't!