Friday, July 19, 2013

Can You Help??

   
Anonymous said...

Does any one have a recording of Chief Todd Baxter press conference with WHAM 13 talking about how the police force was corrupt and under staffed and only two bosses. How the department used their power for the last 15 yrs. We are the only police department that had 3 officers go to prison and one of them was the chief? He said when Baxter came in he changed many
things and hired new officers up to at least a 100 altogether and made new rules. Now its doing great since he came in and took over. If any one has this conference, could you please put it up? WHAM 13 has all their archives from July 11, 2013 but that press conference. some one had it removed for a good reason. "The truth" about our old police force. Keeping the secrets coming from the new chief. He should have never said what he said and it was heard by someone and I wonder who? Any one out there has July 11th 2013 WHAM 13 dinner time news and has it recorded please post it.
7/18/2013 11:40 PM

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SCATS said...

Posted to a different thread:

SCATS said...
To 11:40PM ~~ I found the story, but no video, on the 13wham.com site. Do you need the actual video??
7/19/2013 9:13 AM

Anonymous said...
Yes I realty could use that press conference. WHAM 13 is the only one who did it. I heard it on the news then went to my computer and it was on the WHAM page. Next day I clicked on that conference and it was removed. I talked to some one with WHAM and they said if was for a legal purpose then they can not release it. It was on the web for one day and removed. I do have what you just mentioned. But the conference is where he put his foot in his mouth about the past police department, It was on you tube and removed as well. I only wish I knew it was on the 6 pm news at that time. It just popped up so quickly after showing Nick Joseph being released then his conference came on. He actually said how they were corrupt and how many officers was on the force and did so many wrong doings with their job on the force. He went on to say a lot. I would of recorded it if I only knew? I had the link. Someone actually had it removed. "SOMEONE QUICKLY"
7/19/2013 11:56 AM

SCATS said...

Just an FYI to the person seeking this video: Even though I put this out on Facebook, you might want to ask on craigslist's "Rants & Raves" section ( http://rochester.craigslist.org/rnr/ ) to get even wider exposure. I really hope you get the video. Let us know!

SCATS said...

You could also try the "Wanted" section, too: http://rochester.craigslist.org/wan/

Anonymous said...

Thank you , we will look at it today and let you know. Thank you fir the information

SCATS said...

Best of luck, 12:15PM :)

Anonymous said...

They took it down so fast. When your town are snakes. They know how to stay one step ahead. When you are a snake and others watching out for you , you can slither deep down in to your hole and hide everything or destroy it. Baxter said to much about the old police force. They took it down so fast to protect them selves. WHAM 13 would give you any archives. All of July 11 th you can get, but that press conference. How can this town keep getting away with all the things they do. "EVERYTHING" Auberger is the leader and the biggest snake and knows the game.nioanu

SCATS said...

To 1:49PM ~~ You are correct about the snakes, but it's not limited to the Town or GPD. The school district is very adept at this sort of game, too. It's one of the reasons this BLOG is so hated: the archives ensures the bad news lives on ... and on ... and on ...

Ever hear a story on the radio at 6 or 7AM, then never hear anything more about it anywhere? It's practically SOP.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I am aware of the school district as well. My children attended Greece schools. 36 yrs. ago we had one of the best schools in the states. One reason why we moved into Greece when we got married. By the time my children started school the school district started to have problems. We were involved in our high school for school sports for over 5 yrs and working for our school sports. We noticed how things were ran and couldn't get anywhere or answers. Our ideas were always shot down by Walts and we raised a lot of money. With the money raised. We were limited with it. The district had money but each school had turns each year. We understood, things the school district didn't buy we still had to be approved. It was not easy working with them. All the people who are in charge of our town, "I do not trust" pretty sad. I would move out of this town. But as of now I have a personal reason why I won't move. Hopefully one day I can do it. I am with you on the school district and a lot more. My children are out of school now. I still pay attention and do what is needed. Right now my mind is on the GPD and one more person. Thank you. I still hope to find from some one that press conference soon as possible. "LIKE YESTERDAY"

Anonymous said...

What if Auberger decided to pull a Duffy move and fire Baxter before election day?

Anonymous said...



3:23 You have no idea how hard it is in New York State to fire a chief of police. That's why they had to frame Rahn to get rid of him.

Anonymous said...

BEFORE WE GET NUTS OVER THIS PULLED NEWS STORY, LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM ANOTHER ANGLE.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF A LEGAL LIABILITY GOOF UP BY CHANNEL 13. IN MY VIEW, IF BAXTER ACTUALLY MADE THOSE ALLEDGED COMMENTS ON LIVE TV,CHANNEL 13 WOULD BE IN THE CLEAR IN THE ABSENTS OF MALICE, SO WHY PULL IT. HOWEVER, IF THE REPORTER MISTAKENLY REPORTED SOMETHING THAT BAXTER NEVER SAID, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR THE STATION. THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THIS SCENARIO IS 13 COULD HAVE SIMPLY MADE A RETRACTION ON AIR CORRECTING THE ERROR.
IF THIS WAS NOT THE CASE AND BAXTER MADE THESE STATEMENTS, WHO WOULD HAVE THE INFLUENCE WITH CHANNEL 13 TO GET IT QUASHED, CERTAINLY NOT AUBURGER AS HE HAS NO INFLUENCE THERE. HOWEVER, THE D&CIS AFFILIATED WITH THE CHANNEL. THIS FACT HAS WIDE RANGING IMPLICATION OVER WHO HAS THE POWER TO DIRECT THIS ACTION.PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE VP IN CHARGE OF NEWS FOR THE D&C WHO IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE GREECE C OF C.

SCATS said...

To 7:33PM ~~ Re: "WHO WOULD HAVE THE INFLUENCE WITH CHANNEL 13 TO GET IT QUASHED"

Seriously!? Even GCSD has pull with the media. All you have to do is threaten them by telling them they won't be permitted on town/school/PD property for the NEXT story. Or that they won't get the heads up on the next press conference. There are LOTS of ways to twist media's arm. It's a game that's played ALL the time.

Anonymous said...

What ever anyone thinks. Their is always an insider. Doesn't matter what kind of business it is. You want something done, it can be done and it gets done.

Anonymous said...

Let me see if I get this straight . What you are saying is the That
GCSD has the leverage to tell the D & C that unless they pull the story on page one, your employees will not be allowed on Public School Grounds in the future.? In the mean time all other news outlets are welcome. I don't think so.You under estimate the power of the press if you think this would ever happen.
One thing I learned a long time ago is this simple fact. Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the
Barrel

Incidently, looking back, the powers that be in this town and county did a great job twisting the media's arm during the PD scandals . Instead, they served up 3 sacrificial lambs, spent over one million of you dollars to bring in a special investigator to save Auburger 's butt.
That my friends is news manipulation, Greece style
Granted, these guys were bad news, but the media always loves to fiest on new Red Meat. So serve it up.Works Everytime?

SCATS said...

To 9:05AM ~~ What I am telling you is what I personally witnessed in the past. When one of the TV stations didn't get with the program the supt. had scripted, they were left to report (surmise) out on Maiden Lane, while the others were inside the school getting briefed.

"Public Grounds" my backside! Read the policies! They can (and will) have anyone they want removed (by security and/or police) for ANY reason they choose. Remember the citizen arrested for whispering at a BOE meeting?

Anonymous said...

You are referring to the policy that governs behavior on school grounds or buildings I knew that . But I know of no policy that states that you will be barred if you print or report anything we don't like. Incidently , the arrest you refer to cost the District $ 18,000 for malicious prosecution if memory serves me right, to settle the law suit that followed.

SCATS said...

To 3:26PM ~~ How naive are you to think I'd even suggest there was a policy to do as you suggest? Of course they don't have such a policy on paper! It's a form of blackmail. They are very adept at blackmail, threatening, coercing, etc.

Anonymous said...

You suggest reading the policies to back up your claim then contradict yourself by saying "For any reason they choose" which you now say it is not a written policy. Obviously there is no policy that says for what ever we choose. If so, not enforceable and controversial and confrontational and subject to challenge in the appropriate format.
I'm afraid your allegations have no foundation in provable fact. Again, merely assumptions and speculations with nothing of substance to support your " arm twisting" assertions.

SCATS said...

To 7:08PM ~~ What's "twisted' is your manner of thinking. Policies are written in general terms so they can be made to cover whatever situation they want covered. If you read the policies about visiting the schools, etc. you will note they often don't specify WHO it pertains to, beyond "community" or maybe "resident."

Again, they can and will have anyone they like removed whenever they like for any reason they choose. The situation I noted with whispering in the BOE meeting room is but one example, though it is quite well known. The incident of leaving a TV news crew to report from the street was another example.

I guarantee you that if they don't want to deal with a parent, they will tell them to get off district property, or police will be called. As for media, they do have some policies about who will deal with media, but that doesn't mean other policies don't apply, as they wish. I especially enjoy the following policy edict: "The Superintendent or designee will have complete authority to control all matters with respect to media access."

Can it get any more generalized than that? I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Baxter is a thorn in Aubergers side. Should be an interesting ride into election season. The town board reports to no one but Auberger.

Anonymous said...

Wrong. The town board answers to the people that elected them. No one else.

SCATS said...

To 12:23AM ~~ Dream on. The Greece Town Board say NOTHING that they aren't pre-scripted to utter! Every meeting, it's "yea" ... "yea" ... "yea" ...

Anonymous said...

Scats, I would like to pose to you a question. What if you planned on attending a board meeting. Upon arrival, you are met by the director of security, Steve Chatterton , at the entrance to the building, He informs you that he has been designated to deny you access to the building. You then ask for what reason you are being denied entry. He responds that I don't need a reason. Maybe it's because we don't particularly like you or your blog site and comments attributed to you. How would you react. ? It would seem that you would have no recourse as you claim they can do what ever they want regarding the policy or related policies you quote. What would be your response to this obvious personal rebuke. Just wondering.

SCATS said...

To 3:48PM ~~ What I would do would depend upon a number of factors, but I'll try to keep this simple.

Assuming it's a regular meeting being held upstairs, and assuming the choice is to get arrested if I try to stay, or leave and be allowed to go, I'll leave and deal with it via other means after-the-fact. Before I go, I'll do my best to get Steve on tape denying me access.

If I see media milling about that I have access to, I might make a HUGE fuss right there. I'm pretty sure they'd love that story for the 11PM lead ;)

Anonymous said...

Scats. We all know that could never happen, because of your well-known anonimity.

SCATS said...

To 9:22AM ~~ Anonymity has nothing to do with it. They can stop anyone they want to, for any reason. By the time the person stopped gets the situation dealt with, it will be days into the future.

Anonymous said...

9:22 Scats is right. In this scenario anonymity would not be a factor . Why? Simple. He would already know the identity of the person he was addressing his remarks to would he not.? hmmm!!!
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SCATS said...

To 10:41AM ~~ Re: "know the identity" ??

Seeing someone doesn't tell you their name. It doesn't tell you anything about their work, hobbies, family life, etc. It's merely a face. Now, put a name with the face, neither of which is recognized by Steve. The person may not be technically "anonymous" any longer, but it doesn't mean Steve knows a damned thing about the person. This is the EXACT point I've made for 7+ years about this BLOG. If you had a name and you didn't connect it to a face, I'm still basically "anonymous" in that you don't "know" me. If you had both a name & a face you didn't recognize, same thing.

Now let's move back to the topic of this thread, shall we? :)