Friday, March 29, 2013

The El Latino Back Story ...


Earlier this week, blogger Davy V. posted a story and photos showing Greece Police Chief Todd Baxter and Capt. Patrick Phelan departing El Latino Restaurant following a lengthy lunch. Davy V. questioned the length of the lunch (almost 2 hours), as well as the fact that the restaurant's location was outside the Town of Greece, 9 miles from Greece Police HQ on Island Cottage Rd.

What Davy V. probably didn't and couldn't have known is that this outing was likely a reward of sorts, given by Baxter to Phelan for graduating from an FBI special training program held in Quantico, Virginia.

According to this week's Greece Post, Baxter nominated Phelan to undergo the special training and Phelan was selected from the applicants to participate. On March 22, Phelan graduated from the course.

It appears that this week, Baxter rewarded Phelan's successful completion of the training with lunch out at El Latino. I guess it's like when we take the kids out for a special meal to celebrate good report cards and even let them have their favorite ice cream for dessert. The difference is, we do it on our free time, feel a sense of family pride and don't have to hide it from anyone by traveling to some obscure restaurant.

I wonder if Patrick got to choose a dessert ... I wonder if it's extra sweet when paid for by taxpayers?
  

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm not a particular fan of either of these guys, especially the one's father, who was probably one of the most despicable people this town has ever produced. Having said that, where is the "story" here? It was lame the first time Vara tried to make something out of it, but now it just seems pathetic. Your blog, your time being spent, so you pick the issues you want, but I just don't get this one.

Anonymous said...

C'mon puddy cat, unless you were a fly on the wall in the joint, your
hypothesis is mere speculation on your part. Yes No!!! Let's move on.

Anonymous said...

I think it's great. Cut 'em some slack.

SCATS said...

To 8:52AM, 11:34AM & 1:30PM ~~ To recap the issues one more time for those who need repetition ...

1 - The lunch lasted nearly 2 (two) hours) WHILE they were both ON DUTY (according to Davy V. who said he called GPD & asked the question). We're paying them to work and we pay them OT, too.

2 - The lunch took place OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION of Greece police.

Regarding issue #1: Now that we know Phelan just returned from training out of state, the issue becomes HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH to spend for "special" circumstances? Keep in mind that I'm sure he got his salary while away, plus we covered all of his expenses for travel, etc. and likely even for the training itself. Do we REALLY need to pick up the tab for two more lunches after the fact?

Regarding issue #2: Why would two ON DUTY cops need to leave the Town of Greece with all of its wonderful chain/greasy spoon joints & Greek eateries to go for lunch? The only reason I can think of is TO HIDE what they were doing ... from other cops and/or from the residents/taxpayers. Even if they had some other reason, it still looks like they were in hiding.

Taken together, I can't help but wonder if there isn't some sort of bro-mance or man-crushin' going on between these two. It's just not professional behavior.

SCATS said...

PLEASE NOTE I'm receiving SOME comments in recent weeks with so many typos (or maybe "auto-corrections" to incorrect words?) that it's hard to make sense of what's been written. Example tonight: "A question was skied." That was just the beginning! If you want your comment posted, make sure it's well written. Thank you!

Anonymous said...


Scats, this is all BS and you know it and if you don't, shame on you. Why would you or any intelligent person want to take the word of an avowed cop hater. Would it surprise you to know that some cops who live in Parma and Hilton are allowed to go home for lunch? It’s done all the time.
Your assertion that we taxpayers pick up the tab for lunches is without
foundation. Please show me in the PD budget that line item that sets aside tax money for that purpose.

A police officer outside of New York City has state wide JURISDICTION and if he or she observes a crime in progress, is duty bound by oath to enforce the laws of this state regardless of where it takes place. I'm sorry but you’re “out to lunch” on this one.

Anonymous said...

If you've never been taken out to lunch by your boss you're probably not a very good employee. I have no problem with this and in my humble opinion Chief Baxter's hiring is the best thing that happened in Greece in a very, very long time.

SCATS said...

To 12:10PM ~~ LMAO!!!! You think there would be a "line item" in a budget for this practice??? What planet do YOU live on??? Ask Robach how it's done. Any politician with his level of experience can tell you!

To 12:54PM ~~ Nope, I haven't been taken out to lunch in years. That's what happens when you become the boss ;)

BTW, some of you badge bunny types seem to have a hard time grasping the concepts I stated at 8:29PM yesterday. Since NONE OF YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, it appears I'm on target yet again :)

Anonymous said...

We to El Latino,1020 Chili Ave for lunch today. The food was delicious. I had the stewed chicken,yellow rice and cabbage salad. Husband had the roast pork,yellow rice and green salad. Portions and prices are great. We can't wait to go back again to try the empanadas or a Cuban sandwich. The restaurant is a gem. Thanks for the tip.

Anonymous said...

Isn't a police chief ALWAYS "on duty" (24/7)? If so, how can he EVER have an "off duty" lunch?

Anonymous said...

Reach around to own back. Pat furiously (once again).

SCATS said...

To 3:31PM ~~ According to Davy V. it's geared towards Dominican cuisine. We plan to check it out too.

To 3:35PM ~~ Not exactly. In this particular case, he was dressed for work, had been into his office.

To 3:39PM ~~ If I were looking for recognition, I'd have given up this BLOG long ago.

Anonymous said...

Pussycat, Do you know for a fact that I picked up the tab for that lunch If so can you explain how you came by that information as I would like to be able to verify this. If true, I will bring it up at the next town board meeting at the public forum and demand an explanation and a refund to what ever account it was charged to.

Anonymous said...

12:10 stated that some cops who live in Parma and Hilton go home for lunch. Isn’t this out of their jurisdiction too? Don't you think that’s relevant to this incident? I notice that in your response to that post, you had no comment on that fact. What should I take away from your “no comment” on these particular cops? I guess you’re OK with that practice, but not with Baxter and Phelan.

SCATS said...

To 4:28PM ~~ No, I have no way of knowing if it is "relevant to this incident" because 12:10PM wasn't very specific with the info given. In his example, Greece wasn't even mentioned. In reality, 12:10 was "out to lunch" by suggesting I point out the line item in the budget that applies. The fact is, there IS NO LINE ITEM THAT APPLIES, because we don't budget for their lunches!! That's the responsibility of the individuals to pay for, not the taxpayer.

When people go on silly rants with misinformation like 12:10PM put forth, I assume it's ALL poppycock.

Anonymous said...

I think I'm with 12:10 on this one, Scats. In your post you suggested that
Phelan’s dessert would taste sweeter because it was paid for by the taxpayers. If you knew that they pay for their own food and drink, why would you indicate otherwise? Sounds kind of inflamatory to me on your part. As far as this person wanting to see the budget item that covers what we now know not to be true, it's possible the poster knew this also and such budget allowance did not exist although I have seen individuals have expense accounts set up for use on legitimate work related miscellaneous expenses like lunches and travel expenses like Robach and others have on
our dime. However, because I believe that Baxter has a separate contract with
the town that may include reimbursement for work related out-of-pocket
expenses after producing a receipt or voucher. Or, he may simply have a town
issued credit card issued to him for this use. If true, I guess you may have a point if he used a card at the Restaurant. In either case, we will never know. They either went Dutch or one of them picked up the check and the other the tip which was the more likely scenario.

SCATS said...

To 11:17PM ~~ I think you misunderstood when I said "That's the responsibility of the individuals to pay for ..." which I do NOT believe happened in this case. Either way, taxpayers still paid the bill for a two hour lunch.

To be clear, they SHOULD be paying for their own food. They should NOT be away for TWO HOURS. They should NOT be leaving Greece when on-duty, not even for lunch ... regardless who paid.

Anonymous said...

Hey Pussy Cat, what's new?

Read your own comments on the story. You were the one who suggested that Phelan's dessert was sweeter at taxpayer expense. Or was that an April Fools comment made
in March by you? Tom Jones!

SCATS said...

To 3:55PM ~~ I said it. I stick beside it. Frankly, I'm confused over what the confusion is on your part. As I have said several times, lunch SHOULD BE at the individual's expense. I never said it was in this case. I do not believe that to be so. Capisce??

Anonymous said...

Question I - So what, Seems like you are the only one with a problem.
Question 2 - Who cares! You're being a little sarcastic regarding local eateries any
way with your tone. The rest is unfounded speculation and ASSumption not worthy
of any response that would satisfy your appetite regarding your personal crusade
against Baxter et al.

Anonymous said...

Pussy cat, I'm not the one that's confused, you are. You have yet to admit what you originally said about Phelan's dessert. You need to explain that comment. Was that
meant to be sarcastic? If so, say so.
So far, you have cleverly avoided explaining why you made that comment in the last sentence of your original thread. It goes to credibility. Tom Jones

SCATS said...

To 9:39AM ~~ What is there "to admit" when it is very clearly posted ... just like I stated in my comment at 4:28PM yesterday??

It means EXACTLY what it says. If you don't understand still, get a translator ... TO ENGLISH ;)

Anonymous said...

Scats, I have a question. Do you live in Greece? I'm relatively new to the area and haven't been reading this blog very long so I'm sorry if that's already been answered or is stated somewhere. If you do live here (Greece), I'm just curious why? Why would you live in a town you see so many problems in? If you have kids, do they or did they attended school in Greece? If so, why? You obviously don't like the schools, or the local politics, so why stay in Greece? If you no longer live here but used to, that would make sense to me based on what I've read in this blog but if that's the case then why the huge interest in this town?
Respectfully,
New to Greece anon :)

SCATS said...

To 10:41AM ~~ Re: "Why stay in Greece?"

Since you are new, I'll give you a brief explanation, then allow you to search through the 7 years of archived info on this BLOG to get a better grasp of my answer.

The Town of Greece (those who run it), its school district and its police department have ALL been in the headlines many times each for various scandals. Despite that, many of the sheeple who live here, keep re-electing the exact SAME people over and over and over again ... then they scratch their head when they hear Greece made headline news once again.

The mindset often seems to be "If we could only keep Greece out of the headlines ... let's focus on some sort of warm, fuzzy "news" we can create & control, then all will be OK."

Greece is what I call the Dysfunction Junction ... instead of changing the way they do business to correct the problems that bring the scandal, our "leaders" try to control the people and the media. They often bury the truth, hide behind closed door meetings, manipulate media, evade Open Govt/Open Meeting Laws, break their own policies/rules/laws, etc. to keep on their self-destructive paths.

By pointing out the things brought to light on this BLOG, many changes have been made. I know the naysayers won't admit it, but it's true. In addition, this BLOG is followed by the media who now routinely follow-up on info found here. More people are watching, hearing what's going on, asking questions, etc. ... to me that's a very positive thing!

Anonymous said...

Maybe they keep getting re elected because most people don't see the town as messed up as you do. Honestly most people only care about their tax rate. Look how many people are at any of the town or school meeting maybe 20 in a town of 100,000. I could care less how long the chief takes for lunch or where he eats. Maybe he was coming from a meeting in the city and stopped on the way. If he's not responsible to answer a 911 cal then it has ZERO effect on his job performance. I did and will always vote for the republican candidate for town supervisor

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting that you're willing to vote for someone without knowing (or CARING) what he/she stands for... Simply because of the PARTY they belong to. No wonder we're in trouble. Geez!

SCATS said...

To 10:31AM ~~ That's EXACTLY how Auberger got re-elected despite having an affair, despite the GPD mess, despite Schwab's scandal ... etc.

We create our own misery in Greece.