Tuesday, February 05, 2013

We Gulped ... We've Seen What Happens!


Greece BOE Needs To Readdress
Cell Phone & Other Policies
That Are NOT Working

Last July, the Greece Central School District Board of Education voted to allow cell phones and other technology in the classroom. Various comments made that night are coming back to haunt us now.

"Coming from a younger generation perspective, I think this tech is going to bring the district forward. It's going to help our students become more acclimated with the global community." ~~ Adam Crandall

Just one person, teacher Cheryl Ebertz, spoke out against the measure. "Hearing or feeling the vibration would be such a temptation to check the phone. Even adults have a problem with this while driving."

BOE member Joseph Quirk said such problems would have to be addressed in the future.
"I think its going to bring tech into the classroom. If there are issues down the road we can always come back and address them, but we're in the 21st century. Gulp and go forward and see what happens."

Today, we saw this on local TV news:




The Greece Central School District needs to:
  • Purge schools of students who are stealing services
  • Hold administrators, other employees accountable for student supervision & thereby regain control ~~ This includes YOU, Babs!!
  • Address racial issues
  • Be honest & forthright with the community about these internal problems
  • Tighten policy and ensure it is specific & employed consistently throughout the district
  • Clearly state what disciplinary measures will be used when fights happen
  • Work with Greece Police ... locate Todd Baxter!
  • PRESS CHARGES WHENEVER POSSIBLE
  • Make schools SAFE for students!
 

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

And now it begins...the principal at Athena made a lengthy announcement about the fights this morning. Saying it is wrong ( really?) and the consequences where they have been arrested ( a ticket for disorderly conduct ).... YET no mention of what the school consequences are from the principal that is in charge of the school. What matter in the first line of prevention is what are the clear cut consequences at the school level...

Hiden's statement yesterday say how out of touch DO is with the reality of what can and does go on in our schools. "the use of social media inflames" I say that is gives parents the truest picture of what can happen at school. It may not occur weekly but when it does there is never a straight forward truthful response, from this school in particular.

SCATS said...

To 7:43AM ~~ District Office quashes the truth immediately! It prevents accountability at ALL levels, especially at the top.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Lets have a 'committee' - problem over.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ Better yet, let's have a committee that meets behind closed doors ;)

Anonymous said...

How do we purge schools of students stealing services? This will cost money and GCSD would rather spend their money (or should I say OUR money) on frivolous activities.

Do you know if other school districts have systems to prevent the stealing of services? How successful are they?

SCATS said...

To 8:12AM ~~ I've heard that Rush-Henrietta has been quite successful in getting a handle on theft of services. It does require MOTIVATION & persistence though.

Anonymous said...

I agree with all the changes you have put forth in your cover story. There are some District employees who do avoid their responsibility but placing blame on the many who do their jobs well due to the shortcomings of a few is irresponsible. Let's instead place the blame where it belongs - Parent and student accountability and consequence. 90% of GCSD students and parents are not the problem. It is those folks who need to come forward and drive the changes necessary to take back our schools. They need to demand that the 10% student population and their parents are held accountable in a very substantial and forceful way. Maybe this incident has shed some light under the bushel basket and will now motivate the silent 90% into action. Lastly, the Supt. needs to stop interfering with Administrator discipline. She is circumventing the long term removal of serious repeat offenders from the schools.

Anonymous said...

My kids go to school there and I do my best to bring them up to know better and not to be a punk or a hoodlum. They know what side of the fence I will be standing on if they ever acted like these thugs and will be punished.
In the same breath, Greece School Officials be warned, if my children are ever caught in the cross fire of a fight like this and are injured, you can bet your pearly white butts that we as parents will drop a lawsuit against the School, Town of Greece and who ever else is responsible. I will not stop until each and everyone one on the school board has lost their position on that board.

Anonymous said...

Freaking Animals, my God where is a safe place for our children who want to learn to excel.

Anonymous said...

SCATS just for fun you should do that little stunt that they do on The Today Show with Matt Lauer...Where in the World is Todd Baxter?

LOL

Again hiding from the media. The statements issued were written ones.

Anonymous said...

Your talking about a school in Athena that had type written proof of misbehavior on behalf of several of their hockey players (via twitter) and chose to have secret meetings with families, telling kids the dangers of social media, rather than hand down discipline. What kind of school encourages kids to block public access to social accounts instead of saying, "What your doing here is wrong, and this is the punishment"? When will this district learn that you can only sweep so much crap under a rug before it starts to pour out?

Anonymous said...

Not too long ago, the East Irondequoit CSD hired a private investigator to looking into students "stealing services." They found a few city students faking addresses and pressed charges on the parents. I don't think they ever collected tuition reimbursement, but the point was they made public examples out of a few law breakers before the problem got out of hand. Nobody likes to spend money on things like private investigators but and ounce of prevention can be worth a pound of cure. Greece CSD needs to get serious about solving their problems.

SCATS said...

To 8:41AM ~~ I'm not blaming ALL employees, but we need to start dealing with the bad apples before the entire cart gets infested with maggots.

While I agree that parents are a PART of the problem, the schools refuse to allow parents to control anything that happens while the student is in their hands. Add to that fact that often kids behave differently in front of parents than they do with peers and there is only so much a parent can do while the kid is actually on district property. Also, I've heard from numerous sources that the "problem" students, especially in upper grade levels are city kids who do NOT belong attending Greece schools. It's beyond time to deal with that issue.

SCATS said...

To 8:43AM ~~ I pray you never have to do that!! I certainly would do the same if it were my family.

To 11:09AM ~~ They've been sweeping the dirt under the carpet until it creeps out the other side for at least the last 30 years. It will only stop/change when parents and/or taxpayers begin to demand change.

To 12:37PM ~~ GCSD had a PI (supposedly) doing this too, but that was several years ago. After a couple of headline stories, the topic disappeared from view, except on this BLOG.

SCATS said...

To 9:59AM ~~ I like your idea, but it will have to wait until next time. The reason is that I FOUND CHIEF TODD! You might be surprised to find out WHAT he's been doing ... Coming soon to SCATS ...

Anonymous said...

Mr Gianotti's response to these fights is to now WASTE classroom instruction time. At the start of advisement periods he will make an announcement for the purpose of class discussion. Todays discussion was to consequences for behavior. Yet the consequences are never clear so what is there to discuss? Are in a position as a district to waste 15 minutes a day to discuss the problems that plague the district that are caused by less than 10% I say no.

Anonymous said...

Yet another incident of significance and the Superintendent is no where to be seen, not that Laurel isn't capable of representing the district quite effectively, why is the superintendent so reluctant to enter the fray. Also, I remember a BOE member telling a ditrict official if he couldn't find at that time $50K dollars to cover the cost of the Resource Officers in a $190M budget he should not be in the job. How much are we paying the Asst. Supt. of Finance? Perhaps he should take a cut in salary along with other administrators and Ed Knaak to cover the cost.

SCATS said...

To 4:59PM ~~ Shouldn't he be asking the BOE to get cell phones out of student's hands during school hours?

To 5:38PM ~~ While I agree that $50K is a drop in the bucket, the cost was actually more than twice that amount. As a taxpayer, I've got a HUGE ISSUE with a cop saying they will "voluntarily" do SRO duty at a school of their choosing knowing they will get overtime pay for it! Why is our PD holding taxpayers hostage for these outrageous terms/costs? Can't the Town & GCSD come to some sort of agreement via the union? IMHO Knaak should be fired.

Anonymous said...

Scats what type of agreement do you want them to come to? And Howard they holding the taxpayer hostage? 4 High Schools would equal 4 SRO's. Do you want them to take them off road patrol or want them to do it for free? Unfortunately paying OT is probably the best option. What's your solution?

Anonymous said...

The new song for the Athena Trojans is by Guns N Roses "Welcome to the Jungle"

Welcome to the jungle we've got fun and games
We got everything you want honey, we know the names
We are the people that can find whatever you may need
If you got the money honey we got your disease

[Chorus]
In the jungle, welcome to the jungle
Watch it bring you to your knnn knne knees, knees
I want to watch you bleed

Anonymous said...

Let me guess about Chief Todd. Was he at the FBI training center? Seems his experience as an RPD captain is badly needed at Greece East Charlotte High. What a mess this town is. You are so right on alot of things.

SCATS said...

To 6:35PM ~~ Who is Howard?

To 8:33PM ~~ Thank you for the compliment. I truly wish I wasn't right about so much ... The Todd story is coming soon ;)

Anonymous said...

Sorry Howard should be how are

Anonymous said...

Hey BOE, how is the new policy working for ya?

Anonymous said...

You can take the cell phones away, the kids also use iPods to text, web, social media, pics, videos. I took my kids phone away & I didn't even know she had an ipod (I didn't buy it) and was all over text, tweets ect. All on school hours by the way!
FYI, Athena's song has always been Welcome to the Jungle, because of the condition of the football field

Anonymous said...

Let's start with my choice for a GCSD theme song (thanks to Willie Nelson) - "Mamas Don't Let Your Children Grow Up To Be Trojans".

And Meagan McDermott, where are you when we need you most!

So far as theft of services goes, that’s Gov't mandated. Refer to McKinney-Vento Act.

And for your consideration,
1. GCSD cut 5 security staff at the end of 2011/2012 school year. About 30 hrs. for a savings of less than $20K. How’s that been working for ya?!
2. E. Knaak's salary was cut about 65% through a reduction to 20 hrs/wk. for 39 weeks/year. In his defense, he needs to walk the admin and supt. talk or he’s probably out of a job. GCSD needs to take security out from under the blanket throw over it by BOE, Supt., DO Admin, and Bldg. Admin. None of them perform security tasks! They are delivery boys, escort services, mail handlers, cafeteria monitors, secretaries, pass writers, attendance clerks and every other position deemed necessary by the whims of others too lazy to do their own job!
3. SRO budget was about $70K for the year. GPD even paid first month this year as a loan to GCSD which hasn’t been repaid yet.
4. At least one staff member who is known to be claiming homeless while living in a city house inherited from a relative.
5. Lastly, Parents are a far larger part of the problem than anyone wants to admit. Consider: Teacher calls home for a student who is struggling because homework isn't being done - Parent blames teacher - That's DENIAL. Nurse calls home for suspected drug use - my child doesn't do that - That's DENIAL. Admin calls home for behavioral issues - my child isn't like that - Again DENIAL. Ask any faculty member - The answer from home is always the same - "My child isn't like that."
6. How many of these awesome parents come to curriculum night or parent/teacher conferences?
7. GCSD does employ an exGPD officer to do its investigations into Residency.

So how about all these great parents of so many angelic children come on in and volunteer occasionally to help out in a cafeteria, or halls at passing, or the library, or a classroom and see for themselves how their children really behave. You've got to hear for yourself to believe the disrespect, the language, the attitude and see the "hands on" that occurs every day! This is male, female, White Black, Asian, and Hispanic – this aberrant behavior has no gender, racial, or religious bounds. Students are in school for 35 hrs. each week. That's far less time to undo what’s being done during the rest of their lives (135 hrs left in the week) at home and in the neighborhood.

SCATS said...

To 6:46PM ~~ Re: #5 Children probably behave differently at school than at home.

Re: #6 Curriculum night is a total waste of time! Do you know how many courses have been eliminated in the last several years?

Re: #7 Tell us more, please!

As for parents coming into the building, forget it. One problem you've failed to address is that teachers, principals, etc. TOLERATE the disrespect & abusive behavior from elementary school on up. I know this first hand. I've seen it with my own eyes. I've confronted teachers who allowed the unthinkable. When a 9 yr. old is ALLOWED to address his/her teacher using the F word and there isn't even a flinch on the part of the teacher in reaction, then you've created the atmosphere you must endure.