Sunday, February 17, 2013

Variance Requests Are Out-of-Control

Board of Zoning Appeals Meeting
February 19, 2013, 7-8pm

Applicant: Amanda Lobaugh

Location: 237 Ledgewood Drive

Mon. Co. Tax No.: 074.12-5-43

Zoning District: R1-E (Single-Family Residential)

Request: An area variance to have farm animals (4 egg-laying hens) on a residential property with less than 10 acres. Sec. 211-30 B & 211-30 D


Anonymous said...

Let's think about the size of this yard...probably less than a third of an acre. That's a lot smaller than 10 acres. Also let's figure that they already have the hens and someone turned them in. No way are they considering the prospect of starting a hen farm and are making sure they have the right zoning in place. "Oh darling. Why don't we augment our nutritional needs with some free range chickens? What's that .....Oh we should get the proper variance to have the chickens? Oh by all means let's go down to the town hall to fill out the proper forms."
It was more likely that the neighbors wondered what was going on next door. And what was that SMELL? Do they already have a proper coop? Do we need to get a building permit for that? Who is the expert in the building department that does that inspection? Are the chickens cold outdoors right now? Are they living in the house? When is Dr Phil and the Hoarders team coming to Greece?
Think about the possibility that the people will not clean the coop enough. Think about the poop from the coop or the yard running off into the neighbors yards. Let's hope they won't have a rooster.
But this is Greece and they bend the rules for the dog people so why not for the hen people.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like somebody is trying to start a whole lot of clucking around in that neighborhood.

SCATS said...

To 2AM ~~ I suspect that 11:55PM is correct. They probably already have the chickens, the coop and the poop in place. They just got caught and now have to convince the "leaders" that all is well in Mayberry despite their overlooking the code.

Anonymous said...

I would bet there are more than four (4) hens laying eggs on that property!!

Anonymous said...

And what about the partridge? I bet they imported pear trees to get another food group!

SCATS said...

To 4:50PM ~~ Greece is a "Tree City" so pear trees are fine!

Anonymous said...

It sucks that someone works hard to buy and own personal private property - and then someone else with no right to the property whatsover can tell them what they can or cannot do on it. Private property rights are dead in America. Totalitarian government rules. Your rights can be pissed on the by majority if they see fit.

Anonymous said...

The applicant isn't the homeowner. Will it matter?

Anonymous said...

The property owner must be the applicant for the variance. A contractor can present the information but the property owner must be the person who is getting the variance. That woman named is not the homeowner. The owner is very elderly and might not be aware of the proceeding.
11:03 don't be naive. There are zoning ordinances to protect the rights of the community and the neighbors. It's not a gated community but there is reason you can't conduct farm business on a lot that is so close to the living quarters of neighbors.

Anonymous said...

If what you do with/on your property interferes with me enjoying my property, I'm gonna have a problem with that!

SCATS said...

To 8:48AM ~~ ME TOO!

Anonymous said...

While we are at, let's get those darn kitty cats licensed as well.

SCATS said...

To 10:17AM ~~ That will NEVER happen! And "never" is a word I seldom use ;)

Anonymous said...

I am sick and tired of my neighbors cats pooping in my yard. Why shouldn't they have to pay licensing fees like dog owners???????

SCATS said...

To 11:43AM ~~ I don't disagree at all. In fact, we've lost plantings due to the dang cats. Sadly, the politicians won't touch this hornet's nest because they fear the wrath of the feline owners almost as much (but not quite as much) as they do the dog owners. It's another way in which they are spineless ;)

Anonymous said...

I lurndid in Giiburmunt class at Olympia about dis stuff. Now I usin Craigslist.

We da peepul got da ryte ta pee tishunn.

""Chickens in Greece,NY? (Greece,NY)
not sure where to put this...

just wondering - is there anybody in greece,NY interested in keeping chickens for backyard gardens and eggs?

not talking roosters, slaughtering, no more than 3 or 4 in a predator proof coop.

just enough to help w/the vegie garden and to have some eggs.

feel free to contact me - I'm trying to get a zoning ordinance and support would be helpful.


I will have my cluckers!

Anonymous said...

For the life of me, I just cannot understand some people these days. So many people out of work and loosing their homes, and now some poor lady getting the runaround cause she wants to keep a few laying hens in her yard.

BethAnn says if she knew how to get hold of this Amanda girl she'd tell Amanda to bring them chickens over to uur place. Shoot, with our oldest finding that school janitor job over there to Albany, and living in the hotdog stand under the bleachers with his new girlfriend the cheerleading coach, and our daughter moving in with her school administrator boyfriend 4 chickens would get us through Sunday supper and I'd have a couple drumsticks to pack a lunch for work.

You hear these things and it seems like Greece is gettingas bad as Irondequoit. Fellow who works with me was saying that town ran his kin right out for holding serpent worship in their breezeway and raising Rattylers in their attached garage cause they lived on Cooper Road. Said something about 500 feet from a school, damned if I understand.

My brother had a place over in Henrietta Town but he moved out the winter after he had a small tent revival in his yard. Dang Town officials in uniforms along with the Sheriff showed up and gave him all kinds of trouble for having a tent in the yard without some kind of permit.

Seems about like every town in this county has gone about nuts messin with a man's freedom of religeon, and now that little fellow over there in Albany wants to mess with people's guns. Getting about like I feel real bad for ever moving to Rochester.

Anonymous said...

Proud students of GCSD.

Where you don't have to know how to spell or read.

And how about that Mobile Food Pantry at English Village, oops met to say Orchard Place.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Sounds like somebody is trying to start a whole lot of clucking around in that neighborhood.

2/18/2013 2:00 AM

Pardon me, anonymous. You're presuming an awful lot here. Perhaps you might go to the zoning meeting and see what the facts are before you start jumping to conclusions.

SCATS said...

To 6:32PM ~~ I've read the info posted by the zoning board and the article in the Greece Post. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to live in the SUBURBS, then the 10-acre rule for farm animals should be enforced! The fact that this person has returned to her elderly parents' home & now seeks to annoy the neighbors with a hobby she knew wasn't permitted in that area is akin to flipping them the bird ... FOUR OF THEM! She mentions how the city welcomes this on even smaller plots. Well then the solution is easy. MOVE TO THE CITY!

Anonymous said...

fyi - this is a pretty interesting find.
This is Amanda - the one who wants the a coop...not free ranging....just for gardening and eggs.
I do own the property - yes inheriting it (but slowly over 3 years as a "gift" so I don't get the tax crapped out of it) - dad has now moved into the Villages and loving sellng my house in the city and moving out here so he doesn't ahve to keep paying taxes.

and no biggie if I don't get the chickens (which I do not have yet - sorry to spoil that theory) - I was trying to just go the legal route and investigating before committing.
The last thing I wanted was to set up a coop and get the chickens only to find out it's illegal and have them taken away.

If I don't get them - not the end of the world - and I can always sell the house in a couple of years and move back to the city.

Just thought I'd give this a try first....I really just thought chickens would be fun and helpful in the garden.

ps...interesting comment about the cats....little pussy cat foot prints on my windshield...definitely agree there!
I keep my cat indoors!