Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Greece Cop Sam Ross Pleads Not Guilty




SCATS ~~ The internal investigation is STILL not completed!?
  

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is the Baxter Doorley relationship at its best.

Anonymous said...

Guilty? Did something transpire after court this afternoon?

Anonymous said...

The outcase of this fiasco has already been decided. Just ask Sandra Doorley.

SCATS said...

To 8:37AM & 2:11PM ~~ From the gitgo, Baxter called it a mistake. A couple of days later, he had Doorley explaining how Ross could get away with it ... no record at all. I call that pulling out all the stops for someone WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER!!

Since he didn't, how can we not question his judgement in the future?

To 12:31PM ~~ If you're referring to the mistake I originally made with the title, I fixed it earlier today ;)

Anonymous said...

So according to news reports, Baxter knew about this in early Sept? Yet the internal investigations not done and were still paying him and he is not due in court until mid November? And we thought this guy was the answer?

SCATS said...

To 7:45PM ~~ Yuuup!!

Anonymous said...

A message to you head hunters out there. This situation is not a terminating offense. under civil service rules of proceedure, in order to dismiss an officer for misdemeanor offenses our departmental rule violations, the town would have to show a pattern of this behavior before any attempt is made to terminate the officer. only if the officer is convicted of a felony can he be terminated without a hearing. In this officers case, the town could petition civil service under Article 75 but this would result in a lengthy process including a Hearing on the charges. ultimately, an independent hearing officer would decide the guilt or innocence of the accussed and make disciplinary recommendations if found guilty
Accordingly, if found guilty by the hearing officer of conduct unbecoming, the town is under no obligation to accept the recommendations made and instead may dismiss the officer. Actually as we know, it's much more difficult to dismiss a tenured bad teacher under rules set forth in 3020a proceedure.

Anonymous said...

Don't you know they are overworked, underpaid and short staffed at GPD?

SCATS said...

To 7AM ~~ Re: "only if the officer is convicted of a felony can he be terminated without a hearing."

Tell THAT to Brian Ball!!! Without a hearing, our new Chief was telling the entire town that "Brian Ball will NEVER work for Greece Police again!" in Feb-Mar. of 2010. as I recall, the Town of Greece finally settled with Ball months later ;)

To 8:44AM ~~ They are?

Anonymous said...

This is true because Ball did not want to work for this corrupt town in a department controlled by Auburger and his remaining mules in the PD
Under article 75 rules of proceedure, Ball had rights .he could have fought to keep his job or strike a satisfactory deal with the town. Obviuosly, he chose the latter and moved on with his life Had he fought it he would have prevailed as the charges brought were retaliation as Auburger's hired gun Joe Losinski, could not connect Ball to the alleged shredding incident. Now enter Auburger s Pet Chatterton, who conjured up A long forgotten incident involving Ball. In my opinion, under the circumstances that existed, the town got a way withit because Ball told Auburger and Losinsky to take this job AND SHOVE IT.
If you still doubt my assertion on Dismissal of a civil service police officer with out an article 75 hearing, with exception of felony conviction, I suggest you check it out.

SCATS said...

To 2:43PM ~~ The POINT is that BALL WAS FIRED LONG BEFORE HE GOT ANY HEARING!!

Besides the shredding issue, he is still haunted by that messed up accident where that poor girl died. His handling of it is unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure I'm understanding the Doorley Baxter connect as it applies here. I was under the impression that the alleged incident happened in another JURISTICTION like Irondeqouit and the arrest took place there and involved an off duty GPD officer.
The DA's office as in the past, have offered ACD's routinely on minor infractions in order avoid the expense connected to a trial. I guess the only difference is that in this case a cop is involved who is entitled to the same protections as Joe Six Pack under the law
In this case,the ADA in Irondeqouit must deal with the arresting JURISTICTION and the complainant Inorder to strike a deal. Therefore I I see no connection regarding Baxter in this acceptable practice employed regularly by the Office of the District Attorney. Remember, this officers troubles are far from over as he may still face stiff departmental charges in the near future.

Anonymous said...

You are missing the point, He waived his right to a hearing thus never got one. Rahn unexpectedly did the same thing after he was sold out by Parrinello.These hearings can be open or closed. The last thing Auburger wanted at that time was a public civil service hearing at which he would have to testify and could not take the FIFTH or " I have no recollection of that sir" would not fly. Rahn took one for the local GOP for FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the Baxter controversy Baxter as police chief, does not hire or fire anyone. That responsibility belongs to the elected officials on the town board

SCATS said...

To 3:22PM ~~ I think the "connect" comes from the fact they were interviewed back-to-back on the news regarding this case. First Baxter talked about Sam's "mistake ... or potential mistake' then Doorley told us how he could get off scott free under the law with NO RECORD ... if he attends whatever "class" is required.

To 3:37PM Parrinello sold out? PLEASE explain that!

To 4:21PM ~~ Actually,it's still ALL Auggie's ball-of-wx to play with. Our town board are bobbleheads that only know how to say "yea."

Anonymous said...

What's a "ball of wx"?

SCATS said...

To 7:23PM ~~ What do you want it to be?

Anonymous said...

I believe I said that Parrinello sold out Rahn in the final analiysis. After he originally announced he would rent the Blue Cross Arena to hold Rahn's public hearing and expose Auburger as the architect of the whole mess, he meekly backed down . In the process, he threw Rahn under the bus and a deal was struck for political and financial reasons.Rahn was out of money and Parrinello was not about to go Pro Bono on this one no way. Besides being a loyal Monroe County Republican, it was time to end his foolish public bravado and close ranks behind Auburger and other party office seekers for the good of the GRAND OLD PARTY of Monroe County.,There is no limit to what these people will do to maintain control of this county and it's subdivisions.Sacrfices had to made to the Monroe County god of politics and Rahn was placed on that alter. It worked because we still have Auburger pulling the strings in our town

SCATS said...

To 5:59AM ~~ You didn't mention "in the final analysis." By the way, as I recall, Parrinello had planned to use Greece Town Hall for that hearing. Maybe he changed venue ...?

Anonymous said...

Yes. His last hearing location was to be the town hall. What I was referring to were his initial announced intention to use the arena. This was done only for the purpose of Headline grabbing by this fraud to further his own agenda and to embarrass Auburger in the process.
You can take this one to the bank. When Rahn is released and after the media has moved on and amnesia sets in with the general population, Rahn will be resurrected in one form or another by the powers that be to some patronage county job. Time will tell if I got it wrong
Regarding life after the"Big House" for Rahn, it's important to consider his financial situation. While its true he lost his health care from Greece, as a retiree of the city PD, he is entitled to lifetime coverage from his contract with the city. In addition, he still will receive his pension from the state .

Anonymous said...

This case is what is referred to as a high profile case. This is exactly why Sandy is involved. She only gets involved in hig profile cases. Example...the recent SUNY Brockport murder is her case as is the Webster fire. The woman loves the spotlight. All the ADA's no matter what town, report to her. And there is indeed a Baxter Doorley relationship.

SCATS said...

It must be merely coincidence that this frankenstorm is named Sandy, right?