Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Greece Cop Hurt Following Candy Heist

  
A Greece Police officer and a suspect are both in the hospital. Investigators say it all started with a man stealing candy from a gas station.

News10NBC was there when the officer and suspect were put on stretchers and taken to the hospital.

Police say the man stole some candy Tuesday morning from the Hess gas station on West Ridge Road. The officer was responding and spotted a man who matched the description on nearby Fetzner Road. When he stopped him and started questioning him, police say the man started fighting with the officer in the street.

Captain Brian Uhrmacher said, “An officer doesn't know from one day to the next what he's going to be dealing with and the unfortunate part of this whole thing is this individual chose to engage an officer in a physical confrontation over some candy that was stolen.”

The officer and suspect have some cuts from the scuffle. The suspect also complained of chest pain. Both men are expected to be okay.
  

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Aren't these guys supposed to have backup before engaging a suspect? What if this dude had a gun or knife? Sounds like this cop took a risk and lost.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Officer!

Stopping the little crimes is necessary to deter many oifavoid more of the bigger crimes.

Anonymous said...

Do you want the cops to catch bad guys or not? Would you be willing to fund the expense of two cops per car?
Sometimes the unexpected happens.

SCATS said...

To 12:36PM ~~ WHO are you asking?

I want to know what GPD's procedure is for this kind of situation. Are they supposed to approach the suspect alone? Are they supposed to radio for back-up first?

Is it worthwhile to risk injury, maybe worse, over some stolen candy? Does the type crime committed factor into how the situation gets handled?

Anonymous said...

Every time an officer makes a traffic stop, unless there is cause to believe the driver or occupants pose a threat, he would not call for a backup. As a rule with the new computers in the cars, the cop will punch the plate number in to see if there are any outstanding warrants or wants on the owner And car. Anytime an officer makes a stop arisk remains that the driver will have a weapon if he is facing jail time and will harm the officer to get away . They know this and are trained to prevent that. I would bet that the suspect had more to lose than the theft of candy . Obviously, the cop was taken by surprise but at the same time made a procedural error relative to the rules of engagement with regard to the manner in which you approach the stopped car. In my opinion in the process of doing his job he may have gotten a little careless and was lucky as it could have had a tragic outcome for him and his family.Regarding the use of backups, I'm told because of the volume of calls for service, backups are not always available. Because he radioed that he was stopping a suspect car, all cops not on jobs immediately proceeded to the scene to help a fellow officer.Law enforcement version of CODE BLUE.

SCATS said...

To 1:15PM ~~ My impression is that this suspect was on foot, not in a car: "The officer was responding and spotted a man who matched the description on nearby Fetzner Road."

Anonymous said...

In the long run, this cop would have been better off not trying to be gong ho and waited for help or not risking it all for a lousy couple of pieces of candy. Christ this was petty shop lifting of a few bucks worth of candy. Shame on the Person at the Hess station for calling the cops for this ridiculous incident. Unless I'm wrong, the theft took place in the City.There is a saying that simply says"if you look for trouble, you will find it or trouble will find you" hopefully this will serve as a learning experience for the injured officer. Putting your life on the line for this petty crime? Just does not make any sense at all.

SCATS said...

To 2:29PM ~~ I am 99% certain that the corner of Latona Rd & 104 is still inside Greece. I believe the theft was from the NEWLY constructed Hess station.

I'm OK with the Hess employee calling the cops, if for no other reason than to ensure the crime gets added to the stats.

I'm not sure the cop made the best decision to square off with this fellow in the street. He's lucky, imho.

Anonymous said...

So we call the cops, but they shouldn't do anything until they have back up, just to make sure the crime is reported and Greece has one more crime in the books. Do you want the crimes stopped, or just reported?

SCATS said...

To 9:26PM ~~ Why isn't "prevented" a choice? Are we powerless to the thuggers, gangs and common crooks?

Anonymous said...

If the Officer didn't engage, you would accuse him of not doing his job, and continue spewing anti-police rhetoric. 99% of you don't have the balls to step in front of a thief, and call him out on it, so stay at your keyboards, hide behind your curtain of anonymity, and let the Police Officers do their job.

P.S.- There is not, and never will be a Police agency in this country that mandates a "back-up" Officer for a candy bar theft.

Anonymous said...

Scats your correct. Prevention should be the mission of any department.The question now becomes what methods are employed by departments to achieve this goal.
Saturation patrols in high crime areas is what most departments use. High visibility is the desired effect. However, high visibility has its down side, visibility. The bad guys see them (cops) coming in a marked car.
A more effective deterrent is an unmarked car with two cops patrolling those areas with no attempt by those officers to hide their presence. Making it known to the bad guys in the area that this vehicle is around and could at any time any place and blends in, is a powerful tool in crime prevention.
I don't know if your department employs this practice or not, but in my department outside of Buffalo, we used it and is was very effective. In fact I was the officer in charge of that unit until I retired and moved to Parma a short time ago. If your PD does not do this, maybe they should give it a try.

Anonymous said...

9:26 Until you have walked the you have no business to talk the talk. I suggest that you put on a uniform for a day and see what it's like to find your self in a deadly situation and you are alone. Unless you wear a blue cape and have a large "S" on your chest you are one hurting dude.

SCATS said...

To 7:22AM ~~ Thank you for sharing your experience. I don't think GPD has enough unmarked cars to patrol all of the various trouble hotspots we have in Greece.

Anonymous said...

Just a quick follow up to previous comment. My unit did not use the notorious " Crown Vic'. Even in a plain wrapper, they have cop car written all over them especially if they have spotlights. In my unit, we used unclaimed cars from the Buffalo impound area. In most cases, they were rent a wreck quality and basket cases. Our mechanics would repair necessary components and tweak the power by dropping in a rebuilt engine,
They were real "sleepers" and blended in well. In several successful operations, the bad guys never saw us coming.My guys who where uniforms, had a real blast doing this kind of police work. So did I.

Anonymous said...

SCATS, you have no idea of the depth of Greece PD's motorpool, not including rented vehicles at Christmas to keep Wilmorite's mall protected.

Greece needs to bring back the famed Phelon Crime Impact Team! Tell you what, 2 cops and a Sargent riding around in a high visibility car certainly took a bite out of crime back in the day.

Many criminals went to the hospital for cracked ribs from laughing at that contraption.

Maybe we can get machine guns again too, and a supersized Police Yacht.

SCATS said...

To 10:20PM ~~ Now that the dog is out of work, how about a helicopter? I'd be good with that lol

Anonymous said...

If we could parlay hiring Little Reilich and teaming him with Officer Phydeaux, they could walk the streets of Barnard with a hockey stick and put the fear into criminals.

With a little luck one of Team Tylers enforcers could walk along. Tyler's guys are cheaper than Greece Cops, and a hell of a lot more intimidating. Then again, I heard Team Tyler has been hired by Hess.

Anonymous said...

9:35 so sorry to hear you and your fellow doughnut munches were forced into uniform to fight crime and tell taxpayers "It's covered by your homeowners insurance".
It must be tough having to spend so much time looking in the mirror admiring yourself.

Hopefully the new vests NYS is paying for will have the built in girdle, that'll make you look so much better!

SCATS said...

To 2:45PM ~~ Is Greece actually going to get any of those vests? I figured Monroe County would give them all to O'Flynn's bunch.