Sunday, September 30, 2012

More Crime All Around Greece


Sept. 18th ~ Police chase K-Mart electronics thieves; ends with crash in Irondequoit (STORY)

Sept. 22nd ~ A robber armed with a semi-automatic handgun demanded money from a clerk at the Family Dollar, 550 Stone Rd. The robber escaped on foot. ( STORY )

Sept. 27th ~ Cops arrest Gerald Smalls after two robberies, including attacking an off-duty cop with scissors in Greece recently. ( STORY )
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The Greece Post of Sept. 27th Reports :
 
Sept. 14th ~ Four men brandished handguns and stole a large amount of cash from a Celtic Ln. residence.
 
SCATS reports ~ After talking to a relative of one of the victims in the above incident, this story is actually much more terrifying than the newspaper reveals. My understanding is that two individuals were taken from outdoors and held at gunpoint by these thugs within the residence during daytime hours. Others arrived home during the incident and also held captive at gunpoint. The victims were initially forced to lie face down on the floor and were later taken at gunpoint to the basement and again ordered to lie facedown on the floor. After one of the victims offered to retrieve and give their captors a large amount of cash, the robbers fled the scene in a grey Dodge Durango.
  • Thefts from the area of the new Walmart on Dewey Ave. including:
 
Sept. 15th ~ Two suspects were charged with grand larceny for stealing $2000 in merchandise from a Dewey Ave. retailer.
 
Sept. 17th ~ A suspect was arrested for stealing $200 worth of clothing from a Dewey Ave. retailer.
 
  • Thefts from the Greece Ridge Mall including:
 
Sept 14th ~ A suspect was charged with petit larceny after stealing $391 in merchandise from a mall retailer.
 
Sept. 15th ~ A suspect was charged with petit larceny after stealing $100 in merchandise from a mall retailer.
 
Sept. 20th ~ A suspect was charged with petit larceny after stealing $30 in merchandise from a mall retailer.
  

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree. Very scary indeed! One of the places the police get info on the store robberies (and sometimes the burglaries) is from the schools, via the police in the schools. Is it true that the police officers are only in the schools for a few weeks at the beginning of the school year?

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SCATS said...

To 8:03AM ~~ My understanding is the school resource officers spend a few HOURS PER WEEK in the buildings. Maybe the BOE arranged differently this year? After all I'm sure Odyssey students have NO discipline issues ;)

Oh wait! I see groups of boys leaving that building ALL wearing hats! That's against our code still, isn't it?

To 8:46AM ~~ Your comment was a perfect example of what I'm going to be continuing to delete from now on. Instead of discussing THE TOPIC AT HAND, you attempted to make it a personal issue with me, just like the so called "leaders" in this town do. You should try to deal with the problem and THANK the messenger;) It will be much more rewarding in the end!

Anonymous said...

Notice how the home invasion was conveniently kept out of the tv reports????

No crime in Greece.

SCATS said...

To 11:48AM ~~ Worse than that, the other local paper made it sound like there was only 1 "victim". To me this clearly demonstrates how the media helps to white-wash the bad news in Greece.

Anyone else notice that now that Walmart is open & crime is happening around that area, the incidents of reported (in the papers) crime for the mall suddenly rose? So many games!

Anonymous said...

I just stopped at One StopGas Station at Dewey and Stone hoping to purchase a gallon of milk. They were out however there was a full case of bongs, water pipes and rolling papers. What's GPD doing about this??? NOTHING I assume as usual. And the house at 69 Shady Way still has customers arriving at all hours!!!

SCATS said...

To 1:43PM ~~ As far as I'm aware, bongs, water pipes & rolling papers are all legal to buy/sell. If they were peddling bath salts, synthetic pot, etc. it would be a problem. Hopefully, GPD pokes their face into this place every so often to make sure it stays legal.

What's going on at Shady Way? Prostitution? Drug sales??

Anonymous said...

Drug house with children on the premises.

Anonymous said...

There's another drug house on Stone Road between Castleford and California Drive. Hidden behind a bunch of trucks. Lots of action there at all hours.

Anonymous said...

I seriously doubt that the existance of Walmart is responsible for problems in adjacent areas. These residential incidents are more than likely " home Grown " given the changing demographics of the south east part of the town itself.
Residential day time burglaries are not random. Perpetrators will spend time targeting homes they know will not be occupied by observation of the occupants departure patterns.
Will Walmart generate problems? The obvious answer is yes. But most will take place on premises and in the parking lots by means of shop lifters and targeting and mugging targets of opportunity in the parking lots.
The increase in crime in this areas has long been anticipated by local law enforcement as it is an unfortunate by-product of a changing Greece.
As the holidays approach, we can expect increased incidents as described here. Be prepared and forewarned .

SCATS said...

To 6:48AM ~~ "Home grown" huh? Are you aware that RGRTA bus routes were redone to bring people from the city (10th ward) into Walmart and the surrounding neighborhood? Yes daytime buglaries are more common because thieves know many people are not home. That certainly doesn't mean that most are as smart as you try to give credit for. It was already reported in the media that GPD was warning folks about a spike in crime in that area. I'm sure the fact the spike happened right after Walmart opened is merely coincidental too ;) Could I interest you in some fine swampland in Florida?

Anonymous said...

The only presence of GPD is right at Walmart. They are no longer patrolling the areas close to the border. All the patrols are at in very close proximity to Walmart. Very rarely do you see a patrol car anywhere else these days.

Anonymous said...

have you ever tried to carry a large TV set. Unboxed, taken from a residence some place on a bus and not get someone's attention. C,mon Scats. Buses coming in from the city will lead to more shoplifting at Walmart as well as thenMall nothing more concealable items. the big stuff needs the use of a MV like the incident at Walmart last week and the crash on Hudson Ave when a shopping cart full of electronics was casually wheeled out to the car. Had the goons not crashed, they would have not been caught . How far do you think they would gotten by waiting for the buss and loading all that merchandise on it.
Save your swamp land for someone that really doesn't believe that our crime rate is in no way related to the turnover in the Dewey Stone, Mt Read Latta corridor
Regardless of your opinion I perfer to stick by my Home grown remarks.

Anonymous said...

There is no connection between Walmart and neighborhood crimes.I agree with 6:48 As a retired deputy,my experience in these neighborhood burglaries I found when we caught the suspects they lived in the same area that the burglaries took place. It's not a matter of being smart enough to case the place first itis really a matter of knowing the neighborhood and knowing whose home and whose not. These punks will actually ring the door bell to make sure . if some one answers, they asked that person if so and so lives here or ask for directions after all they do not want to breaki in and find the owner standing there with a shotgun pointed at them.

SCATS said...

To 3:12PM ~~ You've fallen behind on today's sort of home burglaries. They are looking for cash, jewelry, small electronics like cell phones, I-Pads, etc that they can sell or pawn fast. No need for anything except DEEP POCKETS.

Your remarks might be "homegrown" but they over-ripened in the sun.

SCATS said...

To 4:24PM ~~ Gee, the old PD used to say it was because it was near the city line. Now you are saying neighbors are ripping off neighbors. Interesting that there was NO CRIME-WAVE BEFORE WALMART opened its doors.

SCATS said...

Once again, instead of discussing THE TOPIC AT HAND, someone attempted to make it a personal issue with me, just like the so called "leaders" in this town do. The 1 or 2 of you who do this routinely should try to deal with the problem and THANK the messenger;) It will be much more rewarding in the end!

Anonymous said...

So if there is no crime in the Walmart area? Why is their so much beefed up patrol??????

Can they answer that?

SCATS said...

To 10:35AM ~~ GOOD QUESTION! But it wouldn't be the first time Greece PD acted as private security for a business ;)

Anonymous said...

Most law enforcement agencies deal with crime prevention in one of two distinct methods, prevention and apprehension.

Satuation patrolling is an example of the prevention method. Apparently, the GPD has opted to use this method. This is the preferred form because it usually results achieving the desired result.A visible presence does more to prevent crime and promote the safety of the general population

Apprehension is after the fact, where as the crime has already taken place and resources are employed to apprehend the perpetrators and take them out of the equation by incarcerating them. Prevention is far more in the best interests of possible victims of a crime.

If its true that patrols have been beefed up in the Dewey corridor, it is not for the purpose of providing taxpayer provided security for Walmarts as was suggested. It is for the protection of those citizens in that geographical area and not the businesses in that area. Walmart provides its own in store security.

SCATS said...

To 2:09PM ~~ I agree with your statement about prevention vs apprehension.

Regarding Walmart & the extra patrols at both Northgate Plaza & in the surrounding neighborhoods: Let's face it. GPD's presence is because Walmart is there! Without Walmart, there would be no need, right? It's not like that part of town got extra patrols when Big Lots was in the plaza and Wegmans was down the street, or that the nearby residential areas were of any special interest to GPD until the expansion of this plaza with the addition of Walmart.

Anonymous said...

As a 15 year resident of the Dewy stone area we have seen an increase in police patrols in our area I live on a side street in that area .This has been going on for over 2years long before Walmarts started to build. Also we actually regularly see police cars on our street which was not going on before because of the increase of crime in our neighbor hood Ithink they moved the headquarters from Fetzner to
maiden lane for this.

Anonymous said...

I respectfully disagree . The operator of one of gas station onDewey Ave told me that they first noticed an increase in patrols going back for sometime.They even stop in to chat more often and ask about anything out of the ordinary taking place.He told them that other than a significant increase in the number black customers things seem normal. It would appear to me that fact along with an increase of incidents in adjacent areas could be one of the reasons for current police activity in the area. Of course with opening of Walmart and possibly related incidents occurring in that immediate area of the store itself bcould cause additional concern by the police.
What ever the reason there is no doubt about the fantastic job they did to improve the looks of Northgate plaza compared to what existed there before.

Anonymous said...

Regarding increased patrols by the GPD, I suggest that you spend sometime at the Wegmans store on Mt Read as I did recently.
If you do, you will observe a huge number of so called Walmart shoppers patronizing this store. The question in my mind is given this obvious fact,why is there no noticible increase in patrols there by the PD?

SCATS said...

To 9:30AM ~~ I agree that the Dewey/Stone area was targeted for increased patrols after Baxter got his feet wet in GPD. And I also agree that they stated the moving of the 2nd precinct to 500 Maiden Ln would help them patrol that area better. The one thing I want to point out is that the Dewey/Stone area is NOT part of the Northgate area and 9:57AM appears to be trying to muddle up the entire Dewey corridor as a single neighborhood. Of course, it's not.

To 9:57AM ~~Since I don't know if you are talking about a Hess station (north on Dewey) or a Kwik-Fil (south on Dewey), it's impossible to make sense of your remarks. Sorry. It is a FACT that GPD has two cars on patrol at Northgate that weren't there prior to Walmart.

To 10:25AM ~~ The biggest change at the Mt. Read Wegmans happened when Wegmans closed Britton Rd. Suddenly, that store was swamped, the parking lot became tough to navigate, etc. With the opening of Walmart, the crowds have thinned out again to some extent, BUT now Wegmans is included on the revamped bus run that loops through Greece. I believe that has brought about the change you are noticing.

I can't recall the last time I saw a Greece cop in the Wegmans Mt. Read lot ... or store. They used to stop in there routinely BEFORE Wegmans closed the Britton Rd. store.