Sunday, May 13, 2012

Where Do The Candidates Stand?

  
Charlie Hubbard said...

Based on the info given at the budget presentations we are going to be asking the taxpayers for a 2.6% tax increase for 300 fewer students.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?

Based on the info given at the budget presentations contracts continue to drive the cost. This board has approved those contracts with 'no cost' given prior to approval.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?

Based on the info given at the budget presentations medical costs are going up over 7% via these contracts. As I recall one of these board approved contracts 'increased' the districts part of the cost of medical insurance from 90% to 95%.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?     5/11/2012 6:22 PM

   

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

I thought the budget was under the 2% cap. Is that number the budget plus the new buses?

Can we have a source for the >2% budget proposition?

SCATS said...

To 5:27PM ~~ The tax levy increase is 1.07, which is below the mandated 2 percent tax cap. The tax rate increase is 2.63%. There were certain items like pension costs that were excluded in determining the 2% cap. You might be interested in reviewing the BLOG posted on this topic back in April:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=22923669&postID=2208966007072480688

SCATS said...

By the way, the bus purchases are NOT included in the cap. That proposition is entirely separate.

Anonymous said...

Sacts, how come you are not posting comment? Why so selective?

Anonymous said...

Charlie

In which labor contract did the district's pay portion of health cost go from 90% to 95%?

Enjoy

Doug

SCATS said...

To 7:59PM ~~ "So selective"??? Really??? lol!!! There are a FEW that have gone unpublished mostly due to name-calling or because they added nothing. It's up to BLOG administration since this is a personal BLOG ;)

Anonymous said...

Doug; I believe it was the teamster contract.

Charlie

Anonymous said...

Well of course the candidates don't give a damn, it ain't their money that's getting flushed down the crapper called Greece Central Entertainment District.

Just think of it as giving your neighbor's fat wife your Mastercard and telling her to go enjoy it. She can spend all she wants, she can entertain her friends, she can be popular spending somebody else's money.
She doesn't even have to care how you pay the bill.

Anonymous said...

I am curious at what point Charlie would be happy? Tell us what size the classes should be and how many teachers and support staff should we have? Looking for real numbers please? ANd please Charlie when your children were in school was there constant wining about the cost of educating them? Education is not the only growing expense...gas, peanut butter and so on!

SCATS said...

To 3:45PM ~~ Don't pull the gas & peanut butter crapple here, please! Over 75% of the budget is EMPLOYEE SALARIES & BENEFITS. Gas & PB get govt subsidies (reimbursements), anyway.

Anonymous said...

Guess what 3:45, gas and peanut butter might cost more today, but their every bit as good as they used to be when they were cheaper. Can you say the same about our childrens education? If peanut butter continued to taste worse and worse as the years past, yet we were made to pay 4% more for it every year, regardless of its quality...we wouldn't eat that crap anymore!

Anonymous said...

Hey 8:19 - Great education you received! Maybe English was different when you went to school...

" Anonymous said...
Guess what 3:45(?),() g(G)as and peanut butter might cost more today, but their (they’re)every bit as good as they used to be when they were cheaper. Can you say the same about our childrens (childrens’) education? If peanut butter continued to taste worse and worse as the years past(pass), yet we were made to pay 4% more for it every year, regardless of its quality...we wouldn't eat that crap anymore!

Anonymous said...

charle and. Scats since you seemed to joined at the hips on union and compensation issues, it would be interesting to some of us what your strajedy and remedies would you employ if you had the power to reduce that 75 percent number.Charlie as a school board member railed time and again about this fact. The lesson Charlie learned in both of stints on the board, that he has only one vote and wasted a lot of" SOAP BOX" time at board meetings trying to deal with topics he had no control of in the first place because of existing State Laws.
Charlie is an avowed union hater as a former Kodak subservient employee a fact he will freely admit.
In 1967, the state enacted the Taylor Law which gave public employees the right to unionize and negotiate with their employers concerning wages, benefits and working conditions . The Law made strikes by public employee illegal and subject to sever penalties, Made sense then and still does today.Imagine if you can a county wide strke by all public employees and it's devastating resulting chaos?
My message to Charlie and. Scats is this. Stop trying to deal with the realities of things you have absolutely no control over,Unions are here to stay as long as the state says so. Any change in the Taylor law can only take place at that level Placing the blame on the school board is unfair as they are saddled by the same law.Sure they can push for changes in district contracts but they have no official role in the negotiation proccess. As it now stands the table has been shifted in favor of the unions by the insertion of the Tribourgh Amendment to the Tayor Law.This amendment is the route of all problems is patently unfair to the district and should be repealed.
so my suggestion to both of you is stop beating a dead horse death. Instead take your concerns to your local State Legilators Robach and. Rielich and watch them dance around that particular topic a political zombie for both of them. Until change takes place lighten up a bit as your continued railing on these issues are nothing more than an expression of you self frustration and frankly quoit somewhat redundant.






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Charlie Hubbard said...

to 9:28 (anonymous)

You can sum up the problem in 2 words COST and QUALITY.

Cost is driven by the contracts - worthless, give/away, do/nothing contracts. Lots of words about working conditions and dollars - NOTHING about quality and or educational expectations. These contracts are put together by lazy administrators who came up thru the system and know nothing about success in the 'real world' where accountability exist.
The worst part is these contracts have been approved by lazy, worthless school boards who are elected by taxpayers to represent taxpayers - in reference to contracts (again cost and quality) they have been a dismal failure and more and more taxpayers are seeing how 'they' have been 'had'.

I would point to the Comptrollers audit of 2008 that speaks to the school board identifying the 'benefit to the district' when judging contracts - the 2008 board agreed to this - you have yet to see it done.

One more item - what does the school board 'want' in contracts? WELL?

Public education is a taxpayer funded monopoly run by people who majored in 'entitlement' and who have a minor in touchy/feely.

Anonymous said...

6:30-Great job addressing the grammatical and spelling issues in 8:19's post. Now you've cleared the way for 3:45 to answer the question in 8:19's post. I wonder if 3:45 will even bothering trying to, or if they'll just try to divert attention in some pathetic manner.