Tuesday, May 08, 2012

How Does District Clerk Verify Residency?

   
Based upon numerous comments received related to the actual residency of Candidate #1 (Adam Crandall) on the ballot for BOE (some examples below), what effort is made by Greece Central's District Clerk, Lynne Armstrong, to verify any candidate's qualifications to run for school board? How does she verify their age, their residency and their citizenship?




Anonymous said...

I am a life long Greece resident. I graduated from Greece Athena and have both my bachelors and masters degrees from RIT. As much as it pains me to say this, I am once again disappointed with the lack of quality candidates this year. I am especially speaking to candidate 1. Although he has signs over town and has a big smile, that doesn't mean he has the qualifications to be on our school board. Yes, he graduated from Athena and went to Fisher, but as far as I know he no longer lives in Greece. I can't imagine electing someone to our town school board who no longer wants to even live in our town. He has said on multiple occasions that he is looking to get his foot in the political door., but I am unsure of his abilities to separate political ideologies and religious beliefs from our children's education. I applaud him for being passionate about his republican and Christian beliefs, however I don't want that to be imposed on my children ( and based on my interactions with this young man, I doubt he is capable). I don't believe our incumbent board is stellar, by any stretch of the imagination, but where are the retired teachers or business owners living in Greece who can help guide our educational system and maintain our fiscal responsibilities. There have been so many layoffs of teachers or early retirements and these are the types of people we need on our board. I don't think college students or sales men are qualified for the job. In addition, having attended high school in the district doesn't qualify you either.

As a side note, the majority of the people who are "supporting" candidate 1 are people that he went to high school with. The majority of these supporters no longer live in the town of Greece. In fact, there are a good number of people that live outside of upstate NY and even the state. How can voters accurately gauge the effectiveness and honesty of this candidate if his support page is misleading. Just some food for thought.   5/04/2012 3:49 PM

Anonymous said...

Adam Crandall owns his home in east Rochester. His parents reside in pine brook. Bet he's using that address…   5/05/2012 10:17 PM

Anonymous said...
Adam " purchased" a home in east Rochester, however it was his parents that put their name on the mortgage. Adam just recently posted on face book that he paid off his home, but if you do a search there is no property record for him. He lives in east rochester in this home. However, he is saying that he is a resident of Greece by using his parents address in Greece. This is so wrong. He is a liar and a xxxxxxx (edited by BLOG admin.) for trying to scam the system. Unfortunately there is no way to stop him. He has this set up so he could climb the political ladder. This is sick and I don't want him on the board. He's either luring about being a resident of Greece or luring to his "friends" that he not only purchased a home but paid it off ( that's a big deal where I come from). 5/08/2012 4:36 PM
   

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wouldnt say that all young people arent qualified to be on the Board, because they have first hand experience with the district. It's about who the person is, not their age.

Although in Candidate One's case, the evidence of him not living in Greece and not being able to separate his ideologies/religion from his actions is disturbing. It all gives me a bad feeling.

Anonymous said...

in response to an email about this topic, Armstrong said that Crandall is registered with the B.of elections in greece, and drivers license says hes from greece. She said she is "required to accept that information as the truth."

Anonymous said...

I leave Greece in a heart beat if I could and if I thought I was a better candidate than what was being offered, I run against them and try to make things right and hopefully more people will not leave Greece.

Does everyone just look for chaos to be in their lives by worrying about little things like this?

SCATS said...

To 11:37PM ~~ A "little thing?" As Julia reminded us tonight, we've got soldiers fighting oversees to keep us free and protect our rights. I think we have THE RIGHT to know our candidates meet the LEGAL requirements, and I'm not a "birther."

Anonymous said...

Since you have your answer now according to 9:07, are you going to write another post stating that he indeed does like here in Greece SCATS? I know it's rare that you get answers from others to you questions, but now you know the truth.

It's good this was confirmed so the people claiming they know different can stop making up "facts"

Anonymous said...

All Candidates meet the LEGAL requirements. Enough said

Anonymous said...

I agree that this is a little extreme, but I think the point the third poster was making is that there is no way to prove he doesn't live here. If he meets the requirements then he meets them legally. Clearly, there may be some truth to these allegations, but what can you do. I just moved out of Greece ( I own a home in a different town, but still have a vested interest as my family lives there) and I'm under 30 - so there is no ageism. I haven't changed my address on my license and technically based on that can still vote in Greece ( I wont don't worry it's a 40 min drive) I guess "legally" I too can run for boe even though I clearly live outside of Greece. Sad.

Anonymous said...

As a voter if the district clerk has verified Candidate #1 residency, then as far as im concerned there is no more speculation. He is a legal resident and clearly used the house while he was in college. It is now up to the voters of Greece to elect the candidates they want representing them.

Anonymous said...

People get over it. Stop acting like the old folks that you are. Young members on the school board is what this town needs, not dated, aged, suck up's that make up the board now. And don't get me started on former or current Greece teachers. Stop living in the middle ages, get out of the kitty litter.

SCATS said...

To 7:38AM ~~ That's NOT proof. Show me the original email by forwarding it to me for posting.

To 8:39AM ~~ Saying it's so doesn't make it so.

To 8:48AM ~~ Thank you for the well thought out example.

To 9:18AM ~~ The keyword you used is "IF. The question I have raised is HOW does she verify age, residency & citizenship?

To 10:37AM ~~ I don't give a crapple about the age of the candidates. I just want to know they meet the legal requirements to be on the BOE ;)

Anonymous said...

Great example 8:48. I have a feeling that's what's going on here. I'm 34 so there is no ageism either. There is no way you can prove its happening and if he meets the legal requirements, he meets them. It still seems deceptive and wrong, but what can you do- have a pi follow him and prove he's in er? I don't think so. Still based on this and the first post ( in the top of the blog - not comments) I don't think he'll be getting my vote. It's all too fishy.

Anonymous said...

Many of our past Graduates of Greece schools have left the community because we are not grooming/welcoming them to stay in our community. Politics before academics/children. These young candidates are willing to get involved in our community and apply there experiences with what they have learned in higher education. They went through Greece school system and experienced it personally. I would like to know how many existing school board members are Greece school graduates? I just got off of Greece schools on YOUTUBE where BOE president discussed how we are losing young community leaders with much to add to our community.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4X-XCOzbuk
Shame on you all for continually trying to use politics to beat down our young community members
Shame on YOU!!!

Anonymous said...

Someone under thirty can be a suck-up too...maybe a bigger one at that

SCATS said...

To 12:27PM ~~ How do you "groom" someone to remain in Greece? That's a new concept for me.

In case you haven't heard, young people are fleeing Monroe & surrounding counties despite the numerous institutions of higher learning in the area. The number one reason: JOBS!!How can a young person afford the taxes we pay in Greece, if they can't land a job? Even the BOE Prez. is out of work.

Anonymous said...

Who are you referring to- people posting or the candidates? I ask because there seems to be some eloquent posts from those under 30 on both boards referring to this matter.…

Anonymous said...

Scats- I think young people are leaving Monroe county because they are getting wise. Why live in Monroe county when taxes are much cheaper just outside. Ie a 250k house in Greece is going to pay apx 15k in taxes. Pick the house up and put it in victor, you're looking at 7k in taxes. It's nice area, good community and good schools. There is nothing to keep them here. Sad but true. If I wasn't a lifer on the west side, I'd leave too.

Anonymous said...

SIGNS ALL OVER TOWN

Signs cost $$$$$$
Signs all over town show an organized backer group.

Doh, who is paying for the signs, who is the puppetmaster for this precanned candidate?

Now there's a question of where the candidate lives.

SumTing wrong here!

Anonymous said...

There are signs all over town from Candidates 1, 3, 4 & 5. So, 1:45, I guess you are saying that 3, 4 & 5 are also backed by an organized group as well? This just keeps getting more amuzing with each new post.

SCATS said...

To 2:14PM ~~ Since candidates 3, 4 and 5 have all three of their names included on one sign, I'd say they are organized in some way. That's usually the case in such a situation regarding Greece BOE candidates. Remember HMO?

Anonymous said...

This is a clear attack on young people trying to get involved in the community. What a joke. The board needs change and that time is now.

Anonymous said...

If Adam can afford to pay off this supposed house in east Rochester then he can afford signs… he doesn't get my vote, but I doubt he's scheming the system more then any other politician is.

Anonymous said...

Just curious as to why only one School Board candidate was in the audience last night at the School Board Meeting - maybe Terry Melore actually cares about whats going on in the District.

SCATS said...

To 5:14PM ~~ I'm curious as to how only 3 candidates bothered showing up for Candidates Night. Guess who didn't attend ;)

If you missed hearing Candidates Night, I suggest listening to the audio recording at the link below to get an earful!

http://ptagreeceny.org/gc/2011-12/120426_CandidatesNight.mp3

If anyone can listen to that & still vote for candidate #5, I'd be surprised.

Anonymous said...

Hey scats, do you have a vested interest in seeing that candidate #1 is not elected? It sure seems that you are not partial to this conversation? Are you being bias in some way? Since when do you go to bat for Julia? And how come you are so against this one particular candidate? If you needed to know his eligiability all you had to do is call Lynne Armstrong, she would have comfirmed your initial questions. Second, if you were not satisfied with her acceptance of the residency issue, you could have verified it yourself through the monroe county clerks office. Either he owns the house or not. Simple questions and answers. Scats stop your barage of false innuendos and misleading comments. It really does a diservice to this blog. You are definitely showing your true colors on this topic. On another note, how is tlhat school of choice issue working for you. Hard to go against number 75 on the country's best school list. How ever they did it, Greece odyessy kicked butt!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Do you even toe scats? I would be willing to wager that you don't.

SCATS said...

To 9:08PM ~~ You haven't paid very close attention. You ask: "Since when do you go to bat for Julia?" If you read my previous comment about #5, you'd know I didn't/haven't. Regarding candidate #1's eligibility, I'm not paid to check his credentials, the District Clerk is. And that's the question I asked on the front of this BLOG: "What effort is made by Greece Central's District Clerk, Lynne Armstrong, to verify any candidate's qualifications to run for school board? How does she verify their age, their residency and their citizenship?"

I'm still waiting to hear the answers.

To 11:46PM ~~ I have 7 toes on my front paws, which makes me polydactyl ... and special ;)

Anonymous said...

'''Do you even toe scats? I would be willing to wager that you don't.''''

Still scratching head over this one.

SCATS said...

To 10:39AM ~~ Care to borrow a flea collar? lol

Anonymous said...

One: Odyssey made the list based on AP/IB. They have a heavy student population who take these classes. However, what is not being mentioned is the measures that Odyssey takes to maintain these numbers. If you notice Odyssey has a very, very low African-American population, YES SHOCKING, ODYSSEY IS ALMSOT ALL WHITE! They ship their special ed students to Olympia. In other words they have created their very own utopia over there. Yet, with their perfect system in place they still only managed I believe an 80% college readiness. Thank god Sue Meier is retiring.

On the terms of BOE elections, JVO has to go, and I don't think we will ever have a fully functioning board unless the community of Greece stands up for itself. The community itself is just simply apathetic. If you want change go and make it happen. Don't just sit at the computer and blame the teachers, administration, etc. Take a look at your kids and actually have consequences; they are not the angels you see them as. Unless we as a town (I know we are big), but every voice in a kid's ear has an effect. Let's raise citizens instead of delinquents. Maybe then our schools will get better. The problem starts at the root, not the top.

Charlie Hubbard said...

Based on the info given at the budget presentations we are going to be asking the taxpayers for a 2.6% tax increase for 300 fewer students.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?

Based on the info given at the budget presentations contracts continue to drive the cost. This board has approved those contracts with 'no cost' given prior to approval.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?

Based on the info given at the budget presentations medical costs are going up over 7% via these contracts. As I recall one of these board approved contracts 'increased' the districts part of the cost of medical insurance from 90% to 95%.

Do any of these candidates have a problem with this?

Anonymous said...

Why are you so against odyssey Scats? You weren't complaining when your child had the opportunity to attend..doesn't seem fair that you have changed your view and fault others who's children get in.

SCATS said...

To 12AM ~~ I've opposed schools-of-choice since West Ridge reopened in 1990.

Anonymous said...

Who's vs Whose
Who knows the difference between who's and whose? Here's a lesson whose time has come.


Who's

Who's is a contraction of who is or, less commonly, who has.

Who's watching TV?

Do you know who's going to speak?

Who's ready to go?

Who's in the kitchen?

Who's this?

Who's already eaten?


Whose

Whose is the possessive of who or, somewhat controversially, which.

Whose book is this?

Do you know whose car this is?

I know a woman whose kids study there.

Whose side are you on?

An idea whose time has come.


The Bottom Line

The trouble here is due to the apostrophe, which on 99% of English words indicates possession, but on this one simply indicates a contraction. If you can replace the word with who is or who has, use who's. If not, use whose.


http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/whoswhose.html