Thursday, April 19, 2012

GCSD Taxes To Rise 2.63% Despite 2% Cap


Anonymous said...

Scats, this is off the topic but I wanted to know if I heard it correctly. Channel 10 reported that the new GCSD budget will raise taxes 2.63%. I thought the NY tax cap was 2.00% or inflation, whichever is lower. Can someone in the know help me understand?    4/19/2012 7:57 AM


From WHEC-TV: "The nearly $200-million spending plan also includes a 2.63-percent tax increase and the purchase of 19 new buses."

Budget presentation tonight at
Apollo MS in the CAFETERIA @7PM

SCATS ~~ I'd ask about the impact of the PILOT & COMIDA tax breaks given to the Mall at Greece/Ridge. According to Scott Hoot, there was more than $90 million worth of assessments related to the mall removed from the tax rolls and there is a 1.5% net tax base DECREASE for the year! 

Thanks to our TOWN BOARD and SCHOOL BOARD, Greece voters get the additional burden of making up for these giveaways by paying more!
             

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

don;t forget the tax breaks given to Bryant and Straton almost $700,000
Breaks to give to to private for profit education means that tax payers subsidize for profits at the expense of public education

Anonymous said...

The law regarding a 2% tax cap specifically excluded increases from pension costs. If the increase in pension costs is greater than 2%, it is exempt from the cap and can be added to the tax base.
Also the law is written to disallow an increase of greater than 2% in the "tax levy" not the "tax rate". Those two figures do not always conincide.

Anonymous said...

If this is true we should demand that board place the bus purchases ona separate referendum and not snook through as a budget item with overal budget proposal. An example of another of " Company Board of Education"
If they fail to do this, We the People should vote down the budget if exceeds the 2 percent mandate. If the budget is voted down the board would have resubmit the budget within .30 days, Split off the bus purchases aa a separate item or impose a contingency budget. A contingency budget would NOT allow the purchase of new buses.

Anonymous said...

The bus proposition is seperate from the budget. And the tax cap is in reference to the tax levy which is below 2% not the tax rate.

Anonymous said...

Wondering now what is coming next year when there are no more schools to close and positions to lay-off. Obviously the new school of choice policy was a joke, but did we ever hear what sort of money, if any, it actually saved? We are in for a rude awakening tomorrow, once we run out of these extras that are used to make these budgets easier to swallow today. At some point, these expenses will need to be paid out of pocket, rather than by selling off items and positions.

Oh, and last time I checked, Greece was still in the toilet as far as results.

Anonymous said...

The better question is why is the tax rate higher than the tax levy this year? Is the town projecting a decrease in total town assessment?

I hope the D and C gets this all straightened out and reports consistantly across all distrcits this year!!!

Anonymous said...

It appears that the tax levy increase is 1.07, which is below the mandated 2 percent. From the PowerPoint it looks like the tax rate increase is 2.63 . The budget can pass yet the proposition can still fail, however buses do need to be purchased and it seems like the least inexpensive way to do that.

Anonymous said...

No comments from Joe two-faced Moscato? Writing one thing on this site and saying another thing in person. How was Joe's meeting yestarday? And who was it with???

SCATS said...

To 5:30PM ~~ My prediction is that next year the budget will be "saved" once again. This time aided by sale of 1 or more empty school buildings.

To 4:19AM ~~ Yes, there is a decrease of over $90 million due to the PILOT for the Greece/Ridge Mall. You & I get to make up the difference. Isn't that a sweet deal?

To 9:57AM ~~ So you think the budget is "good"?

Joe Moscato said...

9¡:59 There is nothing anonymous about who you are. I know who you are.Above all you a coward by not doing as I do And put my name on anything I put on this site. You are a poor imitation of the office you holdA realman would not hide behind a vail of secrecrecy. I real man would call me names to my face.Sometime in the not to distant future I will give you that opportunity. Your the same rat that gave personal information belonging to me to a third party. We will discuss that also at that time Soon!,!!,

SCATS said...

To 9:59AM & Joe Moscato ~~ You two need to take this spat off of here. Further remarks about it will not be posted.

Anonymous said...

You're all confused, the 2% rule is with regard to budget to budget increase. The rate of increase to the taxpayer is a different number and that is why you can have a 2.63% increase to an individual homeowner. The Greece budget is under the 2% tax cap.

SCATS said...

To 1:22PM ~~ Sorry, but you're wrong. From the Comptroller's website: "Under this law, the growth in the property tax levy, the total amount to be raised through property taxes charged on the municipality’s taxable assessed value of property, will be capped at 2 percent or the rate of inflation, whichever is less, with some exceptions. Local communities have the ability to override the cap."

http://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/realprop/index.htm

Anonymous said...

Scats,
You are right. But tax levy and tax rate do not need to be the same. Also please don't forget that large increases in pension costs are exempt.

Anonymous said...

Greece's budget is under the tax cap levy proposed. They are within the boundaries set and do not need any percent to pass the budget, it is very confusing especially since every districts percent can vary. It will be a budget vote like any other year, they do not need to go to revote if they so choose not to.

SCATS said...

To 8:55PM ~~ They need enough votes to pass the budget which means over 50%. If the budget vote fails, "the school board can resubmit it to district voters in original or revised form. However, if the budget is defeated a second time, or if the board chooses not to resubmit, the district must revert to a contingency budget.

Under a contingency budget, the school tax will be frozen—with no exceptions or allowances.
"

Anonymous said...

Point is they won't revote..they very rarely do. So it will be business as usual if it fails. If it passes it won't be by a landslide. Seems like the same ad every other year except that the levy had to be under the two percent wich it is. Seems like the same old same old. Not really much different.