Monday, March 19, 2012

Let The Whining Begin!

  
Greece Central School District's
Pre-Budget Hearing
Tuesday @6:30 PM


The lie ... Julia VanOrman, BOE Prez. ~~ the district is “looking at doing business differently than we have in the past.” (source)

SCATS ~~ How is this "different" when all sorts of contortions were made to retain schools-of-choice but give NO REASON FOR WHY THEY EXIST? Oh, I get it! They "looked at it" but did little to make real change!
 

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have never been a fan of schools of choice. However I must disagree with your rational that nothing has changed. The simple fact that the lottery produced few winners then past practices shoots that argument in your foot. For sure a large number were placed on a waiting list for each school is proof enough for me. In the past, if ther were 200 openings, .200 would win a position. WhatItake away from this is that the mandatory attendance boundaries have been expended to include more children living in adjacent areas contiguous to each school and will attend without subject to the lottery process Having said that,your characterization Julia's statement as being a lie is unfair and not supported by the facts.While not perfect I think it would be fair to say that district is going to operate and do business much differently beginning next September DON'T BE SO NEGATIVE,! Iwould be nice to feel some positive vibes for a change from your desk.

Anonymous said...

I got kids at three schools. No one I know is happy with the school consolidation plan. They seem to have annoyed everyone now. And they didn't save much money in how they did it. What happens next year when there's no more schools to close, reserve funds to count on? It's time to really think about getting out of Greece.

Anonymous said...

Same old, same old. Next year they will have to cut deep to keep up this charade. What will happen when the sports boosters go bonkers over sports team cuts? Oh yeah, it won't be Julia's fault.

Anonymous said...

So we squeaked by keeping the increase under the cap even though we are laying off and eliminating positions and closing 3 buildings. How will we keep below the cap next year? As Julia said we can't do this again year after year. We always seem to be acting or rather reacting to a crisis situation. She is correct that we need a 3 year plan at least. Maybe there is one that is not being disclosed because of the emotion that would be created. Has the administration disclosed this plan to the school board or are they like the rest of us being spoon-fed the budget plans? Let's hope the finance people in the district are not waiting until November to react to the state of the NY State economy and caps for plans for the Greece budget 2013-2014.
They were reluctant to cut any more this time around since the base for that plan would be lower and it would be harder to stay below the cap. The sports will be cut next time around. Librarians were cut this time because there is no contract requirement for size of school body regarding the librarian. There are requirements in the contract for the ratio of PE and Art and Music teacher currently. That is why none were cut even though the elementary building were consolidated. Now that there are more kids at the Paddy Hill and Parkland and Brookside buildings there will be strange numbers like 1.6 and 1.8 PE and Music teachers there. No such advantage for the librarians so farewell to those made redundant by the consolidation.
But if the district continues the specials but changes them to be taught by the regular classroom teachers as allowed by the regulations there will be many specials teachers made redundant. That will be next year.

SCATS said...

To 10:41AM ~~ The over-riding issue is that we have yet to right size this district ... i.e. downsize it to the level that's appropriate for the fewer number of students we have attending. Add to that the fact that we are trying to educate 100's of kids who don't belong in Greece schools because our "leaders" lack the spine to rid the district of this blight and we may never have our budget under control. Sadly, those who are responsible for this mess playing out in future years will be long gone from the range where they might have to accept some blame.

Joe Moscato said...

The more I read posts on this site, the more convinced I become that most of you malcontent anonymous bloggers definitlely access you thought process from a part of your anatomy where the sun never shines. I agree with .2:58'scomments.Changes we are seeing happening now should have taken place years ago.Had we had the right Superintendant and the right board members the resulting pain of today could have been avoided by a solid reorganization plan that was phased and spread out over the past three years.I proposed such plan Back 2007 which was supported by a 5-3 vote. Unfortunatly, the Boily led board never made ACHROMOVITCH follow through as was the usual case when WORK on his part would be required. God Forbid that should happen !!
Why do you always blame Julie. Or for that matter any board president for matters beyond their control. If you really wont to hold someone accountable might I suggest the teachers and their leaders .Their greed and unwillingness to help out a cash strapped district and community are the major players in this multi act Greek Tragedy as they are unwilling to help out even for the short term by agreeing to a one year pay freeze.Imtoldthis would result in close to a 2 million dollar savings next year .Instead they would rather standby and do nothing to help and watch their fellow teachers lose their jobs resulting in program cuts. Now you decide who the bad guys are and place part of the blame where it really belongs.Unfortunately in my opinion no thought has been given to what group of stake holders have the most to loose,our students whose educational opportunities are. Beginning to evaporate and will continue on until next years budget that will be forced cut more programs while providing fewer opportunities for our children.

SCATS said...

To Joe ~~ Don't forget that this is Julia's SECOND STINT AS BOE PREZ. Also remember that JULIA IS PART OF THE BOILY BUNCH. Since HMO, the BOE has allowed any gains made to spiral backward, plunging GCSD even further into the cellar than we used to be.

Joe, we both know the ONLY REASON ANY CHANGE IS HAPPENING IS THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

This district needed to downsize EVERYTHING, not just a few buildings. The longer they put off doing the right thing, the more the students will lose and that's BEFORE factoring in GTA's greed.

Anonymous said...

But SCATS, if they cut to the "right size" years ago, they would still nee to stay under a cap guide. Salaries and benefits for a workforce that commands 75% of the budget will always put us over the cap unless we rewrite the contracts. The Unions need to understand the cap and that we either lay off workers to meet the cap, or they have to make the same kind of agreements that every other union and work force has had to make in the past decade- higher contributions to retirement, reduced health benefits.

SCATS said...

To 6:55PM ~~ Since our enrollment has fallen by nearly 3000 students, why shouldn't we be laying off teachers & staff?