Sunday, February 05, 2012

Learn About Greece Fire Districts

Greece Fire District Overview
Organizational, Operational & Financial Structure
    • Why are there four districts?
    • How are they governed?
    • How do they calculate the tax levy?
Questions answered by a representative from the Barnard Fire District at the next meeting of the Dewey Corridor Neighbors
Wednesday, February 8, 7PM
Aldersgate United Methodist Church
4115 Dewey Avenue
  

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Did NG & Greece Ridge TAXPAYERS get compensated yet for the Union Firemen playing pumpout in the Southern Tier?

I just got my Fire Tax paid, and now the Union Fireman got the guts to send a donation letter. WHY should I contribute to their Union?

Where is all the 2% money going?

I'll bet a whold dollar none of that will be answered!

Anonymous said...

For the millionth time you are not getting compensated. There is a thing called mutual aid. We don't pay for outside help when we get it.

SCATS said...

To 2:14PM ~~ It hasn't been anything close to a million, yet.

Anonymous said...

2:14 Please post up the Mutual Aid agreement that involves NGFD or GRFD and any Department in the Southern Tier as signatories.

You also might want to look into interdepartmental billing for services delivered as well.

This was a UNION bonus for some of the boys and you know it! The Commiseration played along because it wasn't costing them, just taxpayers.

Where is all the 2% money going?

Anonymous said...

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GMU/10/209-e

http://www.co.ontario.ny.us/emergency_mgt/Hurricane Preparedness Plan-OFP & C Resource Management.pdf

Also for the record the Greece Departments that went down state didn't go to pump basements, the went as requested by the state with a swift water rescue team, and made rescues while deployed.All costs to the districts are reimbursed by FEMA(yes i know still tax dollars)and if we had a disaster here would any be mad if there was an out of town fire truck pumping out your basement?

SCATS said...

I'm still waiting to hear WHY Greece "needs" four fire districts? We're paying more than they pay in Pittsford or Brighten to support our FDs! Even the city doesn't have more than one district. Why???

Anonymous said...

Just for the record, if there is a formal disaster declaration FEMA reimburses mutual aid costs incurred by the agencies participating in the response and mitigation effort. Western states use this extensively during fire season. Yes it is taxpayer money but the local share is greatly diminished. Greece having four fire districts is a concept whose time has come and gone the town could easily be called a city. We need one fire department period. Look at your fire tax bill then look at your town tax bill. The town like who is running it or not provides a lot of service for about 2 times the rate that the fire district charges not to mention that the town has a substantial multiple in the number of employees and pieces of equipment as opposed to the fire districts.

Anonymous said...

7:49 Thanks for proving my point.
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/GMU/10/209-e
7. Reimbursement of assisting municipal corporations or fire
districts. Whenever the governor activates the state fire mobilization
and mutual aid plan pursuant to subdivision four of this section, claims
submitted by an assisting municipal corporation or fire district for
expenses allowed by subdivision two of section two hundred nine-g of
this article made in performance of its duties on behalf of a receiving
municipality or fire district pursuant to such plan may be reimbursed in
the first instance by the state from any local assistance appropriation
established for such purpose. Reimbursements of such claims from such
appropriation may be made only upon certification of such claim by the
state fire administrator to the state comptroller and audit of such
claim by the state comptroller prior to payment. Expenditures for such
reimbursements from such appropriation shall be considered a liability
for outside aid as described in section two hundred nine-g of this
article and shall be repaid by the municipality or fire district
receiving assistance pursuant to the state fire mobilization and mutual
aid plan.

When will NGFD and GRFD taxpayers be paid? We probably won't be compensated for wear on equipment, but we damn well are due payment for all the Union Fireman Bonus pay.

Anonymous said...

This neighborhood group will soon be without a President. And no one wants the job. Wonder why????

Anonymous said...

By the way,

http://www.co.ontario.ny.us/emergency_mgt/Hurricane Preparedness Plan-OFP & C Resource Management.pdf
is an informal management plan agreed to by Monroe and Ontario County Fire Departments, NOT a LAW.

BIG DIFFERENCE UNION MEMBERS

Send the bill & collect!

Anonymous said...

If it wasn't for those "Union" firefighters no one would show up when you call for help!

SCATS said...

To 7:50AM ~~ If they're collecting a paycheck, they're supposed to show up, just like the rest of us working stiffs ;)

Anonymous said...

No kidding they have to come when they are working? Boy scats your the smart one! What I said is this, if there was NO union Firefighters then no one would come when you called for help! The day of the volunteer has long come and gone!

SCATS said...

To 11:43PM ~~ You've misquoted yourself in a lame attempt to try to "one up" me. Sorry, but you got caught!

Only if you live in certain fire districts like RRFD (I heard they were "driven out") are there no volunteers ;) Others still have volunteers!

Anonymous said...

No scats, that's were your wrong! The entire town of Greece cannot get volunteers to respond on a consistant basis!

By the way I did not get caught misquoting myself at all! All I was saying is that if the town of Greece did not have the UNION Firefighters, no one would show up or if they did show up it would not be in a timely manner!

If you have all the answers to the problems in the town of Greece then do something about it! Instead of hiding behind your computer! Run for town board, run for commisioner, join a FD. Your doing nothing but pointing the finger at everyone!

SCATS said...

To 12:35PM ~~ Between your assumptions & the conclusions you jump to without facts, you're hard to communicate with. Nowhere did I say anything about "the entire town of Greece" ... those are YOUR words, not mine. It is a FACT that at least one of our FD's has NO volunteers, not a single one.

Re: "All I was saying is that if the town of Greece did not have the UNION Firefighters, no one would show up or if they did show up it would not be in a timely manner!" You did NOT say it well enough to be understood ;)

Re: "... do something about it!" I have and I do :) What are YOU doing???

Anonymous said...

Once again Scats try getting some facts straight prior to writing. In fact RRFD still has volunteers, although there are only about 6 of them. They still have them and still do a fund drive! This I know for fact. Feel free to call RRFD to verify this!

SCATS said...

To 1:20PM ~~ That must be a VERY WELL KEPT SECRET!! A Greece firefighter told me RRFD had NO volunteers last summer. And yesterday, I was told that the Commissioner from Barnard FD told an audience Wed. night that RRFD has NO VOLUNTEERS, as well.

Anonymous said...

It's simply not true! if you ask anyone who lives in the Ridge Road fire district they will tell you that they received a fund driver mailer from the Greece Ridge Fire dept. By law a district cannot solict funds. These members are required to respond to a certain amount of calls, attend training and attend meetings. Granted they are not interior FF, but they are able take the Firefighter deduction on their NYS taxes.

SCATS said...

To 1:49PM ~~ receiving a fundraising mailer isn't proof of anything. This is Greece where laws are broken everyday. Ask Auberger ;)

Anonymous said...

I normally do not get involved, but it is true that there are volunteers at Greece Ridge. I am related to the President.

SCATS said...

To 5:33PM ~~ What sort of documentation of that can be obtained? What would that document be titled?