Tuesday, January 03, 2012

How Much Did YOUR Tax Bill Go Up?

 
Much ado was made by politicians last year (an election year) over keeping our property taxes flat. Both John & Maggie promised to hold the line. On top of that, a new 2% property tax cap has been put into place for NY State. Given these things ...
  • Why did my county/town tax bill rise yet again?
  • Why is it that all local fire districts didn't have to adhere to the 2% cap* when the town, county & school districts all did?
The person who wrote the comment below makes a good point even though it wasn't just the North Greece Fire District that sent that help to other areas.

Anonymous said...
I keep trying to forget, but I just got my County tax bill and read it.

The Union Firemen sure seem to be doing well. When will NGFD collect for all that OUT OF DISTRICT pumping they did? 
1/03/2012 4:14 PM

* "Chapter 97 of the Laws of 2011 (Part A-Property Tax Cap) establishes a tax levy limit (hereafter referred to as the “property tax cap”) that affects all local governments, most school districts in New York State, except New York City, and a host of other independent taxing entities such as library, fire and water districts."
 

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

intersting how much did tax bills go up for people? Didn't Auberger also claim taxes were down.

Anonymous said...

Funny, my bill's remained pretty static since '08.

SCATS said...

To 6:36PM ~~ Auberger is the "John" I referred to in the BLOG post ;)

To 7:16PM ~~ Consider yourself lucky!! Have you actually set them out side-by-side to compare them? While some fire districts exceeded the 2% cap in Greece, "Greece town light" was up by a whopping 18%!

Anonymous said...

Some special district are up and down, but the aggregate number's pretty much the same.

SCATS said...

To 10:36PM ~~ The point is that fire districts were supposed to also comply with the 2% tax cap. If North Greece could do it, why did Ridge Road not only fail to do so, but failed by increasing over 4%?

Anonymous said...

No.

My point was that my bill's been pretty static since '08.

Your point's apparently something else.

Why the heck should I know anything about a fire district I don't live in? Why are you asking me?

Anonymous said...

WHY are property owners in NW Greece paying for townwide lighting when most of NW Greece doesn't have street lights?

Could it just be another sellout by Rainbow Antelli as he term limited out?

How much are county taxpayers putting in Antelli's pocket for the office he rents in the plaza he owns? That store sat vacant most of the life of the plaza, now teh taxpayers rent it for Ricky Boy.
Ricky's on the County payroll.
His wife is on the County Payroll.
How long till his kids are on the taxpayer's back?

Wassup with that folks? Rick was REAL close with Merrit before Merrit went to State Custody.

Did Ricky give somebody a ride home?

SCATS said...

To 11:48PM ~~ No. My point is what the BLOG is supposed to be about (rising tax bills despite a 2% cap, election promises, etc.) and that's what your comment is anticipated to be in response to. Excuse me, but I forgot that this is Greece where nobody wants to know about anything except what happens in their little corner of paradise. That's how we end up with scandal after scandal & the ones responsible for them re-elected time and again. Thanks for the reality check ;)

Anonymous said...

Yes. Exactly. You end up with the same people voted into office because I don't pay attention to the politics of the Brighton Central School District...

And, the 2 percent tax cap isn't really 2 percent at all. Google it and check it out. It's a chimera.

Anonymous said...

11:48...in Greece we all pay high fire taxes. If you are not in ridge fire district you are in one of the other 3.
Who approves the budget of the fire districts? Or do they get to increase whatever they want and the rest of our town expenses have to be lowered to keep us under the cap? Is there one fire marshal for greece? Is that a firefighting professional? If we are paying for them in the taxes, why do we get solicitations by mail to donate to them? Are those considered tax exempt donations? When they travel to other locales to provide relief from disaster, do they volunteer their time or do our taxes pay for those expenses? How many volunteers work for the fire departments?
I understand it takes money to provide training and salaries for the professional fire fighters and equipment and educational programs, but who approves the increases?

Anonymous said...

The Board of Fire Commissioners approves the budget. The Board with 3 out of 5 members can vote to exceed the 2% tax cap. No money is collected when the firefighters go to another jurisdiction to assist. All fire dept's in NYS are part of a mutual aid program where any area can call for help if needed and other areas send the help. It is similar to RGE when they sent trucks downstate to assist with the storms early in the fall. At somepoint this area may need help and it could come from any where in the state.
If you dont like the way the districts are being run start to show up at commission meetings and vote in elections in most districts no more than 300 people ever vote.

Anonymous said...

The fire district issue(s) should be one the D and C tackles this year. They say they are going to do more to make government more transparent.

GO for it Meagan etal

SCATS said...

To 12:02PM ~~ Let's face it. The sheeple of Greece are getting ROYALLY SCREWED by their FDs. Compared to everyone else around us, including and perhaps most notably the wealthier east side towns, we're getting RAPED by what we shell out in taxes for FD protection!! It would likely be cheaper getting the same services provided by the mafia. On top of that, Greece seems to be the only place around with MULTIPLE fire departments ~~ FOUR of them! Not even the city has risen to this level of "need" and I doubt they ever will. Yet Greece's FDs claim they try to prevent a duplication of services, HA HA HA!! They sure haven't prevented a duplication of empires what with the MANY buildings that now house RRFD & NGFD. Does anyone ever use that gym next door to the FD on Long Pond? Exactly WHY did they acquire that building??

SCATS said...

To 1:23PM ~~ They did a piece on it last year. I doubt they'll cover that ground so soon again. It might upset someone.

Anonymous said...

Be nice to us Union Firemen we are in charge. We come when you call you know.

Oh sure we sit around 23 3/4 hours of every day and collect fat paychecks in our provided clothing, and you wish you had our racket, but you don't.

So we rape the ape on overtime, our brother Union Officers OK it. So we got a gym, you really don't expect us to watch cable all the time, and with the crackdown on taxpayer provided porn we gotta work our energy off someplace.

We are the Union, the Mighty Union.
Unlike teachers WE actually do some work.
IAFF Forever!

Anonymous said...

Any fire commissioner who would vote to exceed the 2% tax cap should be expossed and FIRED asap.

Think about the mindset these people have.

Any board member of any fire district who cannot keep spending within that 2% limit should also be expossed and fired asap.

Anonymous said...

Um...you can't fire an elected official unless you vote them out.

How many people even know who their fire commissioners are? Or that there's a vote every December?

SCATS said...

To 7:54PM ~~ I posted a BLOG & a Facebook entry about the December FD elections. Aside from the Greece Post, not a single mention was made in any other local media that I could find.

Anonymous said...

12:02 when RG&E or NYSEG goes to another companies territory or another company comes here all services delivered are billed and paid for along with meals and lodging for the manpower.

The Pumpoff contest to the South was a BIG donation from Greece taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

Gymn rooms you gotta be kiddin me I saw a realy fat dude get offa fire truck at ridway and long pond and he coudnt get his coat zipped up too fat looked like he was the boss to

SCATS said...

To 8:18PM ~~ Just because they have a gym doesn't mean any of them actually use it. I wonder if every firehouse has their own?