Friday, December 30, 2011

VanOrman Doesn't Understand Her Duties

  
Regarding the upcoming potential changes to the structure of some Greece Central School District Schools, Greece school board President Julia VanOrman told the Greece Post: "We have to make sure we have their (the community's) support and engagement."




SCATS ~~ Getting support from & engaging the community is NOT your job! Your job is to ensure that ALL Greece Central students receive the best and most equitable education possible at a cost that's reasonable to the taxpayer's who must foot the bill.
  

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

and if she made a statement that didn't reflect (even if it wasn't sincere) a desire to engage the community and get support, you'd lob tomatoes at her then too. Are you EVER satisfied??!!

Anonymous said...

She promised her buddies she would save school choice. They'd eat her alive if she changed course now. That's just how it is in Greece politics. Screw the working slobs until the middle class is extinct.

SCATS said...

To 7:55PM ~~ She's never tried it, so you don't know that. Let's face it, if you could tell fortunes the way you imply, you'd be wealthy & doing something other than reading/commenting here ;)

Anonymous said...

So if in your definition the goal is equity, then how can you promote neighborhood schools? The neighborhood around Longridge is going to get Longridge a school with about 65% free/reduced lunch and the neighborhood around Criag Hill or Paddy Hill or Kirk Road will get them about 20%. Hence the difference between Athena and Olympia right now, as the result of a neighborhood schools model. Do you care about that kind of equity? What do you mean by equity? Facts are facts: there is a direct correlation between wealth and achievement.

Anonymous said...

And so would you, Scats. You don't even let people get up to the plate. Never try to engage the community....people are painted as "do nothings, know nothings"....Say they NEED to engage the community.....they're told that isn't their job. Pick a side of the fence, Scats...then stay on that side and quit trying to find fault with every single word that comes out of everyone's mouth but your own.

SCATS said...

To 8:53AM ~~ There is NO equity in a system that provides K-5 to the minority who come from all over half of Greece to attend one school, is there? However, there are known benefits to providing that kind of continuity to elementary aged school children. Stability, consistency, etc. help young kids feel safe. If there weren't benefits to K-5, there wouldn't be a HUGE wait list at Pine Brook ;) Letting kids get to know their neighbor's kids helps bring neighborhoods together & fosters a sense of community. That's certainly helpful too. And then the convenience factor for parents helps to get them involved when several kids attend the same school ;) This ain't rocket science!

To 10:02AM ~~ Your over-reaction is QUITE telling! lol

Anonymous said...

This free and reduced lunch label is the latest in the excuss making senerio used by public education. Using this item to promote equity (whatever that means) fits in with that excuss making.

To borrow a term from another poster your posting 8;53 is 'shallow'.

Anonymous said...

attendence lines can and should be drawn around schools with socioecomonics in mind. Concentrations of poverty can be minimized without gerrymandering.
Remember, PineBrook and Parkland are only 1.8 miles apart! 11% vs 66%. We should do better. The BOE and Superintendent need to stop worrying about what adults want and should do what is right for the kids in this district.

Anonymous said...

Scats,
Over reaction? I think not. Just pointing out the flaws in your logic...inconsistencies in your behavior. I see you don't care for that. I figured as much. Tis okay - when and if the BOE decides to garner community support for whatever direction they decide to go in -- we shall see your claws come out again. Sadly, it is quite evident that unless everyone operates in a manner that you see fit or that you think is appropriate and just - that it's just not acceptable to you and your sheeples. :)
Over and out.

Anonymous said...

The 'equity' in neighborhood schools is that the rules and lines are clearly drawn, and they apply to EVERYONE. Applying to everyone is basically what 'equity' means. "You live here, you kids attend here". "You want your kids to attend somewhere else? Find out where the boundaries for that school fall and get within them". No hidden wizard of acceptance, no magical drawing, just clear cut transparent rules, for everyone. Equity!

SCATS said...

To 4:38PM ~~ There is no "flaw" in my logic. You're just worried that so many others feel similarly to me ;)

To 4:44PM ~~ Excellent point, but 4:38PM doesn't get the "logic" I'm sure ;)

SCATS said...

Oh, and one more thing ... equity also means that the schools have the SAME curriculums, SAME length of instructional day, SAME extracurriculars ... cookie cutter education for the masses in public education, since our taxes are supposedly "equitably" charged.

Anonymous said...

You don't worry me in the least, Scats. In fact, I agree with you more often than I don't. But I HIGHLY doubt that people actually think community engagement is NOT the BOE's job. Why don't you do one of your little polls and see?

SCATS said...

To 11:42AM ~~ The BOE's job is to ensure we have a Supt. After that, their job is as a policy-making body. "Engaging the community" is a political aspiration that isn't included in the official job description. IMHO, they ought to stick to their assigned script/role ;)

Anonymous said...

11:42 if they really wanted to engage us, they'd put this whole school structure mess on the ballot with the real price tags for a vote. Let the taxpayers tell them what the community wants.

SCATS said...

To 2:47PM ~~ That would require a backbone!

Anonymous said...

Scats: Any idea or any source that can advise on what happened on Cherry Creek Lane this afternoon? Multiple police cars on scene with shot guns drawn. 3 of that cars passed us at such a high rate of speed are van shook as they blew by.
Concerned citizen of Greece that questions randomness of the crime in our town :)

SCATS said...

To 4:51PM ~~ I have heard nothing and see nothing on the media sites. Maybe by Wednesday we'll be told it was targeted ;) Until then, I'll post your comment on Facebook & see if anyone has any insights.

Anonymous said...

NO KIDDING....
She never has and never will.
It is all about control and how good she looks to her "Pals".
She has been to numerous clinics, forums and workstudies on our dime to learn the true duties of a board member. To no avail...
Very sickening...

Anonymous said...

If so many felt similarly, we'd see the results in the BOE elections, the BOE candidates, school budget votes and EXCEL votes.

And, we don't.

SCATS said...

To 10:19AM ~~ I couldn't disagree more strongly!

It takes FIVE VOTES to accomplish the simplest change on the Greece BOE. For any one candidate, it's an exercise in futility. On top of that, Joe Moscato proved that a private citizen has access via FOIL to info that never sees the light of day for BOE members.