Tuesday, December 13, 2011

"I Could've Wrapped Your Package"


Julia VanOrman said to Joe Quirk ...

Quote of the Meeting ...
 

64 comments:

Anonymous said...

At least she didn't offer to unwrap it.

Anonymous said...

Were any specifics mentioned about how the demographics of SOC would be brought into line with the district demographics? I don't think a postcard application will do much if anything. Seems like much of what was recommended has more to do with maintaining SOC than overall academics or saving money.
Pinebrook was 11%poverty rate- District was 38%(2009/2010). How on earth will that be remedied with the sib rule still in place. They would have to only except low income kids for years

Anonymous said...

Having not attended the meeting last night, I'm stuck reading the D&C's version this morning. I should say first that I have had a declining faith in our district over the last decade or more. Having said that, I never thought in a hundred years that they could have screwed this up any worse. Well according to the D&C, I'm wrong. What a total mess this district has created. "Move a few here, but keep this there". "Move all these kids there, but bring these other kids the same age in". I am so glad to have gotten my children out of school while Greece was still reputable.

A post card lottery program...really? Yet they are going to make sure the lottery schools reflect Greece's demographics? Think about how stupid those to statements sound together. What does that mean, they are going to run a crooked, fair lottery?

Anonymous said...

Did you get a hold of that dad who was interviewed by one of the tv reporters complaining about how it would disrupt his children's life--blah blah blah and then he said it's all financial. Well, DUH!!!

SCATS said...

To 7:13AM ~~ Pine Brook was never mentioned as far as I recall. In fact, I mentioned to a friend that PB will be essentially unscathed in this plan. They did talk about how they would split the attendance for Apollo and send those who live west of Mt. Read Blvd. to the new 6-8 school at Olympia & the rest to Apollo/Odyssey.

To 7:27AM ~~ I would love to summarize last night's meeting, but it went so fast. They promised to post it on the district's website. All I see so far is a link to a 2 page "FAQ" sheet. As far as I'm concerned, I don't even understand the basics of how a postcard lottery would work, let alone how they will get the current Odyssey population aligned demographically after creating the new school at Apollo. It sounds like the current Odyssey will move, period. The new Odyssey Junior will be for the second class kids. Maybe they can segragate them within the building - separate water fountains, separate bathrooms & let them sit in the back of the bus on the way to school too.

To 8:28AM ~~ I saw him. He represents what you get when you divide a community for 20+ years. No wonder things are in such a mess.

Anonymous said...

Why is Odyssey not being moved to Olympia directly? Why disrupt two buildings of kids for the price of closing one?! Many of the kids at Apollo can not afford more disruption in their lives. How is this move good for them? Answer: It is NOT only Odyssey kids!!!

Anonymous said...

I have heard that Olympia is already full, where is the room going to be found?

Anonymous said...

I had to miss the meeting last night.
Just to make sure I have things straight....
We are going to leave schools of choice mostly unchanged.
We are going to close three buildings and create two additional k-5 schools.
OA moves to Apollo and we create a middle school at Olympia.

SO...
What happens to the elementary kids left in k-2, 3-5 schools?
Have we, in effect, traded in a two-tiered system for a three-tiered system?
Has any change to Open Enrollment been discussed?
Where will the savings in transportation come from?
How, specifically, will they manage to have SOC reflect district demographics?

It seems that these so-called recommendations create more questions than they answer.

Anonymous said...

And what about the option to open yet another middle school within a hallway of Olympia with adding another principal? There are so many unanswered questions and they did not show the information and data to back their recommendations last night! More credibility would be given to some options if the data itself was shared to show the reasoning behind it to help us say "AHA, I see why!" Instead, we left with quick info shot at us and wondering... "HUH? Now why would they want to do that?" Unfortunately they may never share that info with us.

Anonymous said...

More affluent white kids BUMP lower income, racially diverse kids from building they currently occupy-Wow new level of disgust!

Anonymous said...

Just wait the basement at Olympia will not be used for classrooms...

SCATS said...

To 12:54PM ~~ You mean you want to send Odyssey kids back to the school (Olympia) they were trying to avoid??? That would never fly in Greece!

To 1:30PM ~~ A family of 2 can fill up a 5 bedroom house. Thus is likely the case with MOST of Greece's schools. Rooms that were once classrooms can be made classrooms once again. In the end, SCATS was correct that we are severely under-capacity given our space available. Last night we heard that GCSD could CLOSE FOUR
(4) ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS in addition to Odyssey. That's 5 schools out of 20 that aren't needed, a waste of resources on 25% of improperly utilized capacity.

SCATS said...

To 1:35PM ~~ Yes, SOCs get to continue. In fact, we're going to create more by adding Odyssey 4 Dummies at Apollo to house 45% of Apollo's kids. The rest go to Olympia, as you stated. I believe they plan to get rid of signature schools, but keep open enrollment. It's not clear to me if Barnard is counted in the upcoming buildings closing, or if they already consider it to be closed (which I believe it is closed, but still used to store records). It sounds like there's no worry about saving on transportation. Babs doesn't want to touch the ridiculous babysitter's arrangements either.

Yes, these recommendations come without us getting to hear HOW THEY GOT TO THESE OPTIONS. We're NOT hearing the discussions, seeing the data used or getting to hear the questions the BOE has! ALL of that has been done behind the scenes. Our BOE is leaving us to ask questions next Tuesday about options few understand.

SCATS said...

To 1:41PM ~~ I agree 100%!! If enough of us gripe about it at Tuesday's meeting, they will have to give us the insight.

Anonymous said...

No matter what happens someone isn't going to be happy. I would think having k-5 schools would be more cost effective than using 2 buildings to split up k-2 3-5. Less staff less building maintanence less overhead. Keep west ridge open and combine other schools to k-5. Seems like everyone on here wants to make west ridge parents and students always the target. That dad on the news was obviously upset. His daughters go to school there. He is very involved in school PTA and is always helping out at events, writes the school newsletter. If you don't have a child who attends west ridge, you don't understand this school is very family oriented. I know every parent in my child's class, I always know how my child is doing. The children all get along well and have many playmates, sleepovers, birthday parties. I had a son who went to English village. And lakeshore and I didn't know any parents, and never knew exactly what was going on even though I tried.

SCATS said...

To 3:20PM ~~ EXCUSE ME, but your remark about not understanding if your kids don't attend West Ridge is beyond arrogant!!

In fact, the reasons you gave for why West Ridge is so important to the families who attend there are THE VERY SAME REASONS EVERYONE ELSE DESERVES TO HAVE AND SO MANY WANT TO HAVE K-5 SCHOOLS!!

The K-2/3-5 structure has split the neighborhoods, the community and the politics in Greece. It's exactly what certain folks wanted to the detriment of everyone else.

SCATS said...

To 1:30PM ~~ Regarding Olympia's capacity: I just looked up some data. In the 2001-02 school year, Olympia had 1327 students attending. Last school year, that number was down to 1138 students & it was projected to fall to 1073 students for this school year. So it appears there is quite a bit of room available for classroom space ;)

Anonymous said...

Scats-your remark abhout the WR parent being "beyond arrogant" is ridiculous. It's a great thing when a parent can be proud of the school thier child goes to, and perhaps if more parents (at ALL the schools) were as involved in thier child's education the whole district would be in better shape. That's what makes the schools of choice successful. It's not about income or race...it's about the schools structure and level of parent involvement. It's a combination of things that makes a good school. And, you can fix the split neighborhoods...but then you will be isolating the "poverty" levels to certain schools anyway.

SCATS said...

To 4:29PM ~~ What makes your remark so arrogant is that YOU can't fathom that those sitting on waiting lists & other "lottery losers" know what they are missing by not getting into a school-of-choice! It's insulting to be told we "can't understand" because we lost the lottery! That's total BS.

Anonymous said...

If this district thinks for one second that my soon to be 11 year old daughter will be sent off to some hallway in the ghetto that is Olympia to start 6th grade next year, they are out of the f'ing mind! We chose to keep her in the neighborhood schools. Many of us that left our kids in neighborhood schools did so to avoid the potential future instability and uncertainty of lottery schools. We've been the one's saving this district transportation money all these years, while the select few have gotten their private education on our dime. Now we are going to be punished for that?!

Anonymous said...

Hey 4:29, why should your kids get an experience my kid can't get? I assume you pay taxes like I do, so why is your family entitled to better than mine? BTW 4:29 be careful not to over emphasize the wonderful experience at your lottery school, many of your co-supporters claim there is nothing different about those schools.

Anonymous said...

Scats, you wrote fact, the reasons you gave for why West Ridge is so important to the families who attend there are THE VERY SAME REASONS EVERYONE ELSE DESERVES TO HAVE AND SO MANY WANT TO HAVE K-5 SCHOOLS!! Isn't that what I said in the beginning of the post? I agree. My point was why are you so adamant to close west ridge instead of fighting for more k-5 when it seems more cost effective than paying for 2 schools along with the other reasons I stated?

Anonymous said...

Does west ridge have a waiting list? I don't think so. Pinebrook does but I don't believe west ridge does.

Anonymous said...

My kids went to lakeshore and ev. THEY would be very upset if they closed-they loved these schools! I, as the adult, would make their transition to a new school as exciting and simple as possible. Please stop the melodrama and get a grip! Your kid's school should not be YOUR social life- closing a school is upsetting but should not be devasting!
How dare anyone think that they and their kids have some sort of corner on being more upset then someone else and their family would be from a different school.

SCATS said...

To 4:38PM ~~ I can't say that I blame you for feeling that way at all. The Apollo kids that get sent to Olympia ... what shall we call them? The Lost Students of Greece? Sounds about right.

There has been a LARGE exodus of families leaving Greece in recent years. The school district IS THE REASON WHY ;)

To 4:45PM ~~ Good point! Those schools are tyhe all the same as the rest ... until we talk about making a change. Then they suddenly become extra special ;)

To 5:02PM ~~ Some schools MUST close. West Ridge is one of the district's older buildings & in need of more repairs. That makes it a logical choice for closing.

To 5:08PM ~~ I know they no longer had a list for Kindergarten, but I thought they did have some on lists at a couple of grade levels. At least that was what I heard last time Nadolinski spoke about the topic, approx. 15 months ago.

SCATS said...

To 5:31PM ~~ Ahhhhh!!!! A voice of reason amidst a sea of dysfunction! THANK YOU FOR THAT :)

Anonymous said...

Your scared west ridge family will be intact it's just moving to a different building because the one it is in and that is under enrolled is costing too much to keep repairing, so why are you so upset.? They get to stay with the same kids but potentially just add more kids at a new location since they can't get enough people who choose to go there even though it is a lottery school. You aren't losing anything
In the process, in fact you will be gaining a more updated building. From what I see the ones that are getting the short end of the stick here are the Apollo kids that are getting ousted from their school to make room for the odyssey elite. Then if your not one of the fortunate ones that gets to stay in the new mini odyssey you get hosed even further by having to go to Olympia starting in 6th grade. They should be the ones upset not west ridge .

SCATS said...

To 6:12PM ~~ The kids who get to remain at Apollo will NEVER get into IB. Why? Because they are going to be the POORER kids who live East of Mt. Read Blvd ~ the newly drawn line between "haves" and "have nots" in Greece. Since they mostly aren't IB material, we are calling their new school "Odyssey 4 Dummies." The ones who might have made it into IB but who are going to be sent packing to Olympia we call "The Lost Boys (and Girls) of Apollo." They can scavenge for an education.

Anonymous said...

Personally I hope that everyone of the "special" Odyssey kids get's their a$$ kicked by the "non-special" Apollo kids that get to remain! You aren't going to separate little Johnny from Tyrone out in that parking lot! Finally our lottery parents will get to see their precious angel bobbin his head to Busts Rymthes tunes in their Dr. Dew beats! Word!

Anonymous said...

The parkland kids will be losing out if Westridge just comes over and takes over. Many of these kids live right next door. The events at this school and parent conferences have been highly attended because they are able to walk. Some of these families don't have cars. But... They won't be able to go to school at the school in their backyard because Westridge needs a new building. Nice!

Anonymous said...

I listened to the meeting last night and 2 items stood out.

It was quite evident that the committees focus was the preservation of schools of choice first and foremost THEN it was a matter of how to do it.

The number of questions from the board???
there were hardly any??? I would have anticipated an hour or more of questions and answers.

Anonymous said...

And out come the teeth and claws! The WR parent who is highly active as PTA seems to be forgetting one important thing....the PTA is "one voice...every child" it doesnt mean just your child or just the children in your school or schools, it means the voice of every single child in our entire district no matter what school he or she attends and no matter who their parents are, whether they are PTA or not and what their socioeconomic status is!

This is a time for this community to stop the segregation and stand as one and instead the claws are going out towards one another....which only gives the BOE more power! Why not put our efforts into hosting our own residents meeting to discuss these options? Why do we only have to speak out in front of the BOE and pit ourselves against each other like savages? Every single child in the district deserves an equal education that is being paid for by the taxpayers of our district. The residents have an opportunity to take a stand here and demand the data that was not shared....we have a right to know the impacts of current conditions just as much as they do and the facts to back it up! Challenge these committees to produce these documents!

Put your anger where it belongs ...at the former leaders of the BOE and focus your energies where it will be productive! It will not be productive attacking the other parents but by trying to figure out how to tackle this mess upon us...TOGETHER!!!

Anonymous said...

It's a shame you missed the recommendation that IB classes be opened district-wide by application.

Anonymous said...

6:12, You can add the Parkland kids (many from English Village) to the list of the mad. Their kids were walking distance from their front door for k-2, and now they would be shipped clear across town. All to allow room for the West Ridge elite (a/k/a Pine Brook Runners-Up). Only in freaking Greece. It's probably just a ploy to get more people to apply their kids for West Ridge (@ Parkland).

SCATS said...

To 6:36PM ~~ I had to laugh!!

To 6:39PM ~~ I think I agree with you. It seems it would be better for the PL/BS folks if BS were to move to PL & WR moved into BS. The older kids from BS could handle the move better than the younger kids, IMHO. And it would possibly help to keep the folks in the apts. more involved, which would be a win-win situation for the district.

SCATS said...

To 6:46PM ~~ There were several things that seemed to NOT be considered. They include: elimination of SOC, elimination of the sibling rule, elimination of secondary option, making the lottery an OPEN, PUBLICLY HELD EVENT, among other things.

The BOE is going to quietly email their questions & receive emailed responses. They do NOT want the community knowing anything more than the dregs & leavings they permit to be sent our way! It is WRONG!! The community needs to put pressure on Babs to inform us ALL of what data was used and other info shared that caused these specific options to be crafted. Tuesday night should be VERY interesting. I hope people speak up & demand to hear what's on board member's minds. We need to know how they are representing us.

Anonymous said...

And....the brookside kids would be able to walk to school saving on transportation. It makes to much sense to actually happen!

SCATS said...

To 6:51PM ~~ I'm with you on this. I do think you will have to include the BOE and Supt. though. I think Babs might actually be useful in such a capacity.

To 7:02PM ~~ They can open it all they want, but they didn't create any more slots for participants than they already have.

To 7:05PM ~~ I agree and I think WR should move into BS to prevent that problem.

SCATS said...

To 7:42PM ~~ That's what makes us the Dysfunction Junction.

I can't fathom moving OD into AP, then splitting up AP into different locations also disrupting Olympia, all to preserve SOC. It would be so much more simple to return the OD folks to their home schools - mostly from AP & OL anyway. Those two buildings could easily absorb these kids back and with less chaos than creating 2 new schools.

What parent in their right mind would want to send their 6th grader to Olympia???

SCATS said...

By the way folks, don't look now, but Pine Brook comes out of this essentially unscathed/unchanged ;)

Anonymous said...

For crying out loud, Apollo is the already the feeder middle school for Olympia. What difference does it make if the kids living west of Apollo move to a new middle school on the Olympia campus? The -- as you said so eloquently -- "ghetto" of Olympia is already their "neighborhood school." The schools are a half mile apart. A

And nice racism on display there with the Busta Rhymes and Dr. Dre references. A true laff riot, that. Lulz! And, "Tyrone." I just can't stop slapping my knee. ROFLMAO. Such clever stuff.

Anonymous said...

It's not the WR parents that are as you put it pulling out their claws. We are just voicing our support for the school. It is the other people commenting on here that are attacking the WR parents... Calling us arrogant and saying we shouldn't be so upset if they closed WR.

SCATS said...

To 8:03PM ~~ You make it sound as if the MS at Olympia HS will be in the area, instead of inside the same building. The issue you overlook are the large numbers of city kids attending Olympia who DO NOT LIVE IN GREECE, and they never attended Apollo. I wouldn't want to send my 12 yr. old to Olympia.

To 9:02PM ~~ Like 3:20PM said, SOMEONE isn't going to be happy, no matter what change is made. WR supporters should be PLEASED they aren't losing their school, period! The numbers justify closing WR. The expenses of updating that building justify closing it too. The fact that you get to keep your school of choice but have to move should be something you welcome. Telling everyone else they "can't understand" how nice your kids have had it when they already know IS arrogant, snooty AND selfish.

Anonymous said...

Why are we not just closing the WR building period. We are going to maintain that building for the Family Support center and records? It is an under utilized building! Get rid of it.

This is all a shell game, these proposals. Lets not forget that the 2 principal positions will most likely be lost through attrition. Not really downsizing and as for staff the lowest paid in the district are who will loose jobs, not the huge benefit/pension folks. Smoke and mirrors all while SOC is left untouched with ZERO sacrifice. IT SHOULD BE A SHARED SACRIFICE, but yet again the poor underserved, that simple goto the school that they are assigned will yet again be displaced and shuffled so that a chosen few can have things pretty much status quo!

Anonymous said...

8:03 when you get a chance tell me WHY my kid needs to be moved to Olympia at 11 years old! The fact that it's a feeder or right down the street doesn't explain why the move should be necessary at all.

Anonymous said...

Kids survive just fine with middle schools at Arcadia and Athena. A dedicated wing at Olympia is no different, well except that Olympia has more of those non-white faces.

As far as the city kid crap - I need more proof than "a friend of my sister's cousin's brother's cable repairman's uncle's buddy said the school resource officer at Olympia guesstimated a quarter of the population doesn't live in Greece."

True fact, for the disbelievers: people of color really do live in Greece and go to Greece schools.

Don't give me that "check out Black Walnut around dismissal time for the city parents lining up to bring their little gang members back to their true homes," bs either. I'm there frequently. It doesn't happen.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like each lottery school is going to have a certain percentage of "disadvantaged" kids, which I am assuming means free and reduced lunch kids. If statement isntrue that would mean that pine brook would be getting a certain percentage of them too. Which in turn means fewer lottery spots for the special class of families that makeup blue ribbon school. Itbis aboutntime we makeneach school equal. Share the benefits as well as the disadvantages of having a makeup of different kids not just high achievers. How will the streaming of this certain percent of disadvantaged students effect the waiting list, I can only imagine the pine brook and odyssey parents are going to have a fit when their spot on the waiting list is jeopardized or their sibling doesn't get in because of this new population that is going to be accepted

Anonymous said...

WR is a great school because the parents and students make it a great school. There's a lot of parents support the PTA and are involved in running after school clubs like scrabble, gardening , etc.. Any school could do this. It's not because WR is school of choice. So calling that parent arrogant just makes you look arrogant!

SCATS said...

To 10:01PM ~~ But you are WRONG! Olympia is different. There's just one cafeteria, for example. I would bet $100 you wouldn't want your pre-adolescent going there ;)

By the way, you need to get to Ridge Rd & Bonesteel in the AM to watch the city kids arrive. There's quite a line of traffic dropping them off. Why don't you ask Olympia's principal directly about the 20+%? I double-dog dare you to do it :D

To 10:24PM ~~ What makes that parent arrogant is their fairy tale notion that no one on the outside could ever understand how truly wonderful WR is. GAG ME!!

Anonymous said...

There is a chart up on the website detailing all the recommendations made, it's actually pretty decent. And I noticed they have put up a survey question asking opinions on the recommendations...surprising!

Anonymous said...

uh-huh......West Ridge is so great it can't come up with enough kindergartners to keep itself going. Time to save us the money. Close this thing.

Anonymous said...

My kids already go to Olympia. I wouldn't have a problem at all with a middle school there. I, and they, think it's a perfectly fine school.

And 10:20 found the golden nugget - all the SOC -- even Pine Brook -- will be adapted to reflect the district's overall demographics.

Taking the current parkland population and mixing the kids with a new West Ridge and a K-5 at Brookside dilutes the poverty level among different schools, giving all the kids a better shot at achievement.

I see the pros of some of these proposals as being: two additional k-5 schools; a much larger Odyssey program; an opportunity to replicate a small-school middle school experience like Odyssey's for a needy population at Olympia; repairs to the overwhelming disparity in poverty levels among schools; the closing of four buildings; the possible sale of two buildings; significant transportation savings by combining bus runs; a simplified soc application; and serious savings from reduction in staff and administration.

I disagree with the idea that the WR building should be closed entirely or sold. If Barnard is sold, the district will still need a facility for records storage and the family resource center. Also, who wants another Britton Road school situation?

How come no one else has mentioned the possible closings at Paddy Hill or Kirk Road? Is the only real concern closing Parkland because it's easy for people living at Affinity to walk to?

I think it's far better to offer a neighborhood attendance zone that gives many Affinity kids automatic entry to a relocated West Ridge program.

Funny...just a few months ago it was all the rage to talk about how the city kids were getting dropped off on Black Walnut and running over to Olympia to fight and do all their "ghetto" things. Now they've moved the dropoff to Bonesteel? Is there a revolving schedule? Like, in months with 31 days, they drop off on Black Walnut and in months with 30 days it's Bonesteel? And outlier February, that's just a free-for-all?

SCATS said...

To 11:49PM ~~ If your kids are already at Olympia, of course you won't a middle school there, because it won't be your 11-12 yr. old that has to adjust ;) As far as the city kid issue goes, they are picked up off (end of school day) in the Black Walnut neighborhoods. In the morning, they are dropped at the border to the city/Greece. See the difference?

Anonymous said...

8:03 I didn't racism in what you read. I caught realism. There is a difference. If a person of color discusses Waylon Jennings and Wrangler jeans are they also a racist?

BTW be careful calling someone racist when it's you that seems to want to keep these schools segregated via a magical lottery.

Anonymous said...

Its not just about the kids next door who can walk to parkland....did you know that Brookside parents are bused on school buses from parkland and basil marella park to attend open house because there is NO PARKING? Secondly, as a parkland parent, I would love to see the demographics even out more for the benefit of my children...I am an active parent in the school! However, I live closer to paddy hill and kirk road! Now you want to take my kids 4 miles away from my neighborhood when there are perfectly fine schools right around our home! Lets see, how many schools will my kids bus pass to drive to Brookside every morning? Oh look...they are passing a west ridge bus...,wave hi sweetie!

SCATS said...

To 2:32PM ~~ I'm not sure who you are addressing your comments to. Yes, I'm aware of the parking limitations at BS. Please read SCATS' option on the most recent BLOG posted & tell me what you think. I know it's not going to be possible to satisfy everyone, but getting back to basics to control the budget is imperative.

Anonymous said...

When we say we go to Greece it could mean many different and unequal things. I could go to a pre-K thru 2 school. a K-2 school, a pre-k thru 5 school , a K-5 school, a k-5 school of choice,add signature schools to that mix, the school my babysitter lives closest to, a 6-12 displaced school at Olympia that has been created to accommodate the needs of the Odyssey academy, or the Odyssey academy at Apollo, or the 6-12 that will be housed at Apollo to prove that the odyssey principles cannot be replicated because my demographic will be far poorer than the existing Odyssey (that will be very apparent in this experiment to use them as a control group to see the difference in achievement with the existing odyssey elite) the 6-8 or 9-12 schools that each have their own principal at Athena and Arcadia.
Let's remember that the 6-12 that is proposed for the other side of Apollo is not a school of choice since kids will be assigned there depending on their home address....east or west of the Apollo building. Talk about the wrong side of the tracks all in a nice neat package at Apollo with the right kind of kids (present odyssey) in the same building.
Will there be a different attitude from the administration there regarding the newcomers ? Will the original Odyssey crew be Sue's favored children?

SCATS said...

To 7:19AM ~~ Re: "... a 6-12 displaced school at Olympia that has been created to accommodate the needs of the Odyssey academy"

Odyssey's only "need" has long since expired. That was the "need" to be ... to alleviate changing boundaries.

Re "a different attitude" I see this playing out as the "wicked step-mother" scenario ... like in Cinderella. Sadly, those kids' carriage will turn into a pumpkin before they get through final exam week.

Anonymous said...

Very good analogy of Cinderella. In fact Cinderella's step-mom took over Cinderell's fathers household after he died. So Sue in this case is taking over the building that rightfully belongs to the Apollo children. Now they (the 55%) will feel like outsiders since she will love her present Odyssey parents and students more. And it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy that the Odyssey mystique cannot be replicated. They will look even better by comparison with their cohorts in the same building not achieving in the same way.
What a diabolical scheme supposedly in the interest of saving money and better utilizing space.

And why was it a given with each of these committees that the schools of choice were not to be tampered with? They had to be given a scenario to start with and this must have been a part of it. Why weren't the committees just told here is the district and the enrollment and the space and you figure something out. It is unbelievable that they ALL chose to retain the schools of choice untouched except by relocation. That was a mandate as they began their deliberations.
Even the decision to keep the Odyssey school population intact instead of using the entire Apollo building as a bigger Odyssey is a concession to the extortion of the choice parents and staff. "to preserve the smaller school setting" .... give me a break.
The superintendent must have been warned by the board not to meddle with the school of choice parents.
As a community we should know the charge and mission and plan and the "givens" that each committee started with. And why were the choice schools not to be changed or eliminated.

Anonymous said...

Back in November after Sue Meir gave that "early" special presentation at OA about the merger options, the Elementary Committee posted their three or four recommendations on the GCSD website and one was to close Westridge and have students go to their "home" schools. That recommendation is now gone! What happened? Did the BOE step in and say NO WAY, won't even consider...??? If that recommendation is still somewhere I did not see it.

SCATS said...

To 9:07AM ~~ Extorsion is the perfect word choice!
Re: the supt. ~ I think she was more than "warned." Threats and/or blackmail is commonplace in closed door meetings in Greece. Oddly, it's more often done BY the supt. than TO the supt. But hey, whatever works for the "special" schools, right?

I agree that we should be given the charge of each committee. We should also be given the DATA that drove those charges ~~ specifically the DATA JUSTIFYING KEEPING SOC & THE LOTTERY.

SCATS said...

To 12:54PM ~~ I know it WAS there. But the BOE has been much less than "transparent" with us on this entire thing! They are running scared. They prefer to stir the pot as little as possible because MOST OF THEM ARE BENEFICIARIES OF SOCs! They aren't going to PO their kids' classmates & parents!

This entire situation smells bad.

Anonymous said...

The data's been up all day, cupcake.

And, the committee charge was exactly what the document on the district's website says it was.

Lol.

Dang. I hope the reading comprehension skills reflected here aren't indicative of all the district's grandparents. No wonder you all needed to work at big daddy Kodak.

SCATS said...

To 10:59PM ~~ WRONG! The data was NOT up this morning.

By the way, since I'm not gay, I sure as heck am not your "cupcake."

I'm not a grandparent either.

And I have never worked for Kodak!

Gee, that makes YOU wrong FOUR TIMES in one short rant. A Greece grad by chance?

Since you struck out so badly with your spewings on here tonight, I'm not posting your other pathetic attempt to gloat on the other thread.

Better luck next time, lonely boy ;)