Tuesday, December 13, 2011

GCSD's 2012-13 Budget Starts With $7 Million Deficit


Coupled with a 2% tax cap, a loss of federal aid & "flat" state aid, the time is NOW to DOWNSIZE the number of buildings, buses and employees to match enrollment levels.

Creating new schools within schools is NOT the answer!

Ousting non-residents is an absolute MUST!
  

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Scats, don;t oust them, charge them tuition.

SCATS said...

To 11:53AM ~~ My understanding is that these thieves are primarily the ones causing HUGE problems within our high schools, most notably Olympia. Greece kids don't deserve the disruption, no matter how much you charge.

Anonymous said...

Olympia at 6:30, right?

Charlie Hubbard said...

I would think this would be an excellent time to use some of this extra space for an 'alternative school'.

Anonymous said...

11:53, perhaps you haven't learned that pretty much anything "they" are asked to pay for ends up coming out of our wallet anyway.

Anonymous said...

It has been estimated that approximately 5% of the Greece student population is NON-RESIDENT.
Greece currently has about 11,800 students so 590 students should NOT be attending Greece schools.

This has been a problem for years that Greece has refused to aggressively go after these students and families. I really do not know why they allow this condition to continue for all these years.

Greece has a retired policeman who is in charge of finding and getting rid of these students but at best he only gets rid of maybe 20-25 students a year.

For some reason in Greece we have to prove that they are not residents while in other districts they have to prove they are residents.

It is my understanding that Greece only requires a single document like a telepone bill or other utility bill. So if you have a friend in Greece you get a telephone in your name at a Greece Central School District address and you are in Greece. Other school districts reguire multiple documents as a cross check.

One problem is that all 590 students are across all grade levels of K-12 in all buildings. There maybe more of a concentration in some buidlings but the chances are you could not reduce cost by cutting out any teachers because the students are spread out in different classes and different grade levels.

On the positive side Greece gets state aid on these students. Now we have 590 studetns times approx. $14,000 or $8,260,000 more money than they should. Maybe I just discovered why Greece doesn't aggressively throw these students out.

Enjoy

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To 2:49PM ~~ If you mean the BOE meeting, it's at Apollo @6:30PM tonight.

Charlie ~~ A great idea!!

SCATS said...

Doug ~~ A friend of mine chatted with a couple of the SRO's when GPD opened their new second precinct last summer. The SRO's claim that almost 1/4 of Olympia's students are non-residents based on administration's estimates. They claim these kids are bringing all sorts of problems into the schools, and I'm not talking about academics either - law enforcement related issues. They also claim that Greece is no longer going after these kids to oust them, God only knows why not. They claim it gets worse every year, but GCSD has turned the other cheek and is allowing the kids and the taxpayers to get screwed, for reasons unknown.

By the way, I seriously doubt that with the popularity of cell phones that obtaining a landline is required. I also don't buy the view that we'd see no lowered staffing needs if we got rid of these criminals. That sounds like a GTA do nothing excuse ... which would cover their backsides.

Anonymous said...

Doug & Scats.........the reason the district does not throw the non resident kids out of the district is because they would lose the STATE AID they get and they would have to adjust their enrollment figures again. If there are over 500 kids who go to our schools who do not actually live here then the district would also have to close MORE schools than they are already talking about.

Additionally, the board and administration do not collectivly have the stones to to lay off teachers so this is why we are getting the little schools of the chosen inside Apollo and Olympia.

We do not need the level of teaching staff we have for the number of students we have.

SCATS said...

To 6:37PM ~~ The truth came out tonight: Greece Central has sufficient capacity to close FOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS! That is in addition to Odyssey. If we closed 5 buildings, that would reduce ourt capacity by 25%!! That's huuuuu-jah!!

Anonymous said...

I seem to remember the district getting all kinds of flack a while ago when they did try booting out non-residents (like the woman who had 5 kids attending GCSD instead of RCSD), didn't they?

SCATS said...

To 11:18PM ~~ Who did they get all kinds of flack from? Other than that family, I mean.

Anonymous said...

There is always a cry about ,"It's not fair!" that some students who don;t live here in Greece cannot get a Greece education. These are usually the same people who believe that everything people work for and save for should be available free to everyone. All of the things we pay for are needed (food, cellphones, medical care, etc) so why not add education in a nonresident community. Heck, I shoulda sent my kids to the Harley school or Allendale Columbia!

Anonymous said...

If sibling priority continues how can the "new Lottery" created the diversity? For example if there are 120 spots for 6th graders at OA and more than half are sibs...that does not change who can attend or increase the odds of the under represented students.
Also is it true that after the move of OA they will have to re-certify the IB program to the tune of $23k? It appears as the cost to MOVE OA will be buried deeply in the OA operating budget.

SCATS said...

To 3:14PM ~~ I don't have a clue about how a "postcard lottery" operates. They didn't explain much. In fact, I think today people have more questions than were answered. We haven't been made privvy to the thinking or data that caused these folks to offer these options. I think we need to DEMAND it.

About the cost of IB, I think Odyssey pays fees every year to keep that program going. I know they don't like talking about it at all. Someone should FOIL the info on the costs of IB to the district, including the cost of subs needed when teachers go for training & other potentially buried expenses. It wouldn't shock me at all that they would have to pay some huge fee to get recertified.

Anonymous said...

Per IB certification if they move location they are subject to re certification.

SCATS said...

To 3:56PM ~~ I've heard that is true, but I'd like to see it in print. Got any quotes & websites we can see that spelled out on?