Sunday, November 13, 2011

Did The ARMS PTSA Get Their Bingo License?

  
SCATS ~~ It appears that this "Game Night" ( previously called "Pizza Bingo") is NOT a legal operation in the eyes of NY State's Racing & Wagering Board which oversees all games of chance.

NY's Rules for Free Bingo clearly states that: participants may NOT pay "anything of value for the opportunity to participate in a game of bingo" and that "the total value of all of the prizes awarded shall NOT exceed one hundred fifty dollars in ANY calendar day."

Since the ad clearly shows that prizes will exceed $600 in value, this can NOT be considered as an operation under the Free Bingo guidelines, therefore a license is required.

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16 comments:

Anonymous said...

So they are in violation of the code both by charging to play....the fee which includes 2 cards per person for bingo....and the promise that the prizes will exceed $600. They will be guilty of a "misdemeanor". LOL Do we have a bunko squad in greece like they were always calling for in the old TV show Car 54 Where are you? Bingo Police?
Also the code states that the games can't legally be held more than 15 days during the calendar year? There are lots (all of them) of senior facilities including the Greece Senior center that are in violation of that limitation. Maybe Johnny will be hauled off in cuffs after all. Maybe his complex that he lives in is one of them.
I can just picture it now....
"B 32....N 15.... G 12....BINGO... RAID Run for your life! Assume the position, Granny. Oh MR. Supervisor? Sorry, but no one is above the law"

SCATS said...

To 12:04PM ~~ The sad part is, only one year ago West Ridge School had to change their plans for the same kind of violation. I blogged about them twice, you can look it up in the archives, if interested. These PTA groups really ought to know better ;)

Anonymous said...

I don't know why but this reminds me of Charlie Sheen.

"Winning!"

Anonymous said...

Are there not bigger things to worry about in Greece? Anyone who attends makes a conscious choice, and it also provides a nice family night. Have we completely forgotten all the other "violations" within the town that we are now going after a Bingo night?

SCATS said...

To 5:25PM ~~ I didn't realize that following laws was dependent upon rank ordering them in terms of importance. If you don't like the law, work to get it changed. Otherwise, the law applies to everyone equally ... even the PTA's, Boy Scouts, clergy, etc. ;)

Anonymous said...

5:25 Yes there are bigger things to worry about in Greece. Many other laws have been broken even by the police. This is not a good example for children. They will think they can pick and choose which laws they will follow and which they will break, like the people that are now in jail or the Robutrad scofflaws. The rule so far in Monroe County and Greece is , if you can get away with it there is not a problem. Is this what we want to teach the children?
All they had to do was a little tweaking of the flyer and the terms of the procedure. If there was only an admission price for food and not the bingo cards that would be in compliance. Every person of any age could get 2 cards. And the prizes should not exceed $150. Who would attend only for that prize? This is a fundraiser and an event to bring families together we hope. That's all they were in violation for. They are not planning on having this event more than 15 days like the senior center and all the senior residences in NY state? Since the parents did none of that they are left holding the bag and having to cancel the event.
They should thank scats for pointing out the error of their ways and eat some humble pie and fix the flyer. But then they would have to admit they read the blog. Let's see if that's the case.

Anonymous said...

Scats,
Perhaps you should take a better look at the website you link to.

It appears to me that this bingo night falls well within the laws concerning "Charitable Gaming" I reference to bingo.

There are separate rules governing "Free Bingo". Clearly this bingo night is meant as a fundraiser ans not a free bingo night.

Thanks for stirring the pot and not presenting the facts correctly.

SCATS said...

To 6:56AM ~~ It's Greece where those in charge NEVER EVER admit to any wrong-doing: But we'll be watching :D

To 7:06AM ~~ Better have a second cup of joe & start over. There's only two kinds of bingo in NY state: licensed & free. The ARMS PTSA group is neither at this point. That means they aren't operating legally .

Anonymous said...

How do you know that they do not have a license for this event?

Anonymous said...

Maybe ARMS PTSA is licensed. Maybe the whole school district is. It only costs $18.75 for the license for the year. It would be a good investment.

SCATS said...

To 10:23AM ~~ The change of name from "Pizza Bingo" to "Family Game night" reveals that someone thought (erroneously) that changing the name made it copacetic. It doesn't.

To 1:31PM ~~ Maybe pigs fly, too lol

Anonymous said...

Scats,

Right. They are trying to disguise the fact they are having bingo by calling it "family game night"

The they go ahead and put BINGO in large letters and describe the games in sufficient detail to make sure folks know it is a bingo night.

They sure are pretty sneaky!

SCATS said...

To 7:21PM ~~ I said nothing about disguising the name or being sneaky. I believe some were under the impression that as long as it was called Family Game Night, they could then do as they pleased. They were wrong, just like you ;)

Anonymous said...

So this is a family night that is promoting good nutrition with the pizza and sugar laden soda and cookies. Well balanced treats that the first lady would definitely promote. Maybe the sauce is the vegetable group. And then the aerobic activity of listening to bingo letters and numbers. Maybe the jumping with enthusiasm shouting bingo is the payoff. So we are promoting early gambling, sedentary lifestyle and law breaking. Surely there is another way to raise money.

Anonymous said...

I think I'll attend this and take pics of all of the illegal activity. Maybe I can record the $600 give-away of goods and document it for the authorities. Sounds like a fun night. Then I'll look at how our PTAs blow-off their sales tax responsibilities. Another fun project.

Anonymous said...

I look forward to the coverage of arrests made during this illegal gambling session.
Good thing we know the date time and place.