Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Do Schools-of-Choice Represent "Academic Apartheid?"


Educator Compares Schools That Work vs. Those That Don't

"When a system allows schools to be tracked while segregating its highest achievers in specialized schools or academies, schools such as Jamaica are left with a student body that is made up of lower performing students. It is academic apartheid."

SCATS ~~ That sounds like what's happened to Olympia HS!
Five things make a "failing" urban school & a "succesful" suburban school different:
  1. Parent Support
  2. Tracking
  3. Discipline
  4. Leadership
  5. Teacher Hiring Methods
   

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

The attendance boundaries that keep the city separate from the suburbs and therefore separate students by wealth is definitely apartheid in NY state. We are supposed to not separate by race according to the federal law prohibiting school segregation. But by carefully separating "city districts" from the suburban districts in NY they have defacto segregation. As far as segregation within Greece the difference between the students at choice vs boundary schools is minute. Look at the terrible conditions in Rochester and Buffalo and Utica and NY city for real crisis conditions.
Possible solution? Blend us into a greater Monroe County school district. Would it be better? Maybe not but it would be fairly offered to all the students. Imagine the outcry from everyone in Greece if that were to happen. Even the people at Olympia would be telling how wonderful their school is.
In the 60's they tried bussing to equalize demographics when they should have just redrawn the boundaries. Imagine the student population at Olympia including the 10th ward kids. Imagine the eastside kids of gGreece going to Charlotte. let's fill Barnard with the kids from the city as well as dewey stone kids.
So let's not quibble about a little over zealous parents at the schools of choice. It is nothing to compare with the difference between East High and Olympia as they both stand presently.

SCATS said...

To 1:09PM ~~ So those stuck on waiting lists that get Apollo or Olympia over Odyssey, or those stuck at Parkland over Pinebrook should just suck it in & take it? I don't think so, but nice try at downplaying an inequitable dual system in Greece schools that very much appear to be segregated based on school-of-choice demographics, not to mention the IB program.

Anonymous said...

Our SOCs are "academic apartheid" and it will kill this district if it is allowed to continue and expand (I have heard talk of expansion). Just because it is on a smaller scale than Buffalo and Rochester does not mean we should be let off the hook for allowing it to continue.

Anonymous said...

What 1:09 fails to acknowledge is the fact that this is going on WITHIN a set district. City vs. suburb is a topic for sure, but inequities whites within a suburb vs. minorities within the SAME suburb is totally disturbing, and it's happening right here in Greece. Worse yet, I can't point to any other suburban district that tries to get away with this crap.

Anonymous said...

Smithsonian Magazine has an interesting piece on public schools in Finland.

Anonymous said...

4:36 - Care to share? Maybe a link?

Anonymous said...

Us this the link?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/Why-Are-Finlands-Schools-Successful.html

Anonymous said...

The article mentions some key facts in FInland:
1. The teachers are selected to go after the required Master Degrees in Education. They choose the best to be teachers: it is not a choice made by the students because of short work year, tenure, etc. so ALL of the teachers are top notch.
2. The teachers are all very accepting of the challenge to tutor and provide special education as needed to the children who are failing. Their motto seems to be, "Whatever it takes" not, "I teach to contract"

Anonymous said...

You want to pay the taxes for income and "vat value added tax" in finland, be my guest.

Anonymous said...

They pay less per pupil and less in percent GDP in healthcare -with better results on both counts.

Anonymous said...

Finland is also NOT diverse like the US....comapring Finland to the US is like comparing veggies to meat...they are in no way similar.

Anonymous said...

Have you read the Finland piece? Keeping your head in the sand and repeating the same old excuses sounds like a SOC parent /administrator. While obviously not as diverse as the US, Finland does have diverse schools and when compared to countries with similar demographics Finland still kicks butt.

Anonymous said...

6:21 am I did read it...I am opposed to SOC and again FINLAND IS ETHNICALLY HOMOGENOUS, to imply that the methods in Finland would work in the IS educational system is a stretch. Our SOC are the finland schools...homogenous and every one else left in the dust. Hence why the SOC is wrong, the ethnic an cultural diversity coupled with ONE FITS ALL curric. is a primary reason our kids fail.

Anonymous said...

don't track kids, involve parents, hire the best teachers, do what it takes... and your against this because????
Both these articles highlighted very similar issues.