Tuesday, May 17, 2011

How Safe Is A Visit To The Greece Ridge Mall?

  
Police Blotter Shows What We've Known All Along ... But What The "Powers That Be" Refuse To Openly Acknowledge

May 15
200 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 14
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 13
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 12
200 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, grand larceny of an auto, valued at more than $100.

May 11
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 10
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 9
400 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.
1 block of Maiden Lane, petit larceny.

May 7
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 8
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, robbery.

May 6
200 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.
600 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, petit larceny.

May 5
2800 block of W Ridge Road, petit larceny.
1 block of New Prince Lane, petit larceny.
1100 block of Maiden Lane, petit larceny.

May 4
200 block of Fielding Road, grand larceny of property valued at more than $1,000.
100 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, grand larceny involving a credit card.
300 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, robbery.

May 3
100 block of N Glen Drive, grand larceny of property valued at more than $1,000.
400 block of Greece Ridge Center Drive, grand larceny.
100 block of Crossroads Lane, identity theft.
700 block of Maiden Lane, petit larceny.
   

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looks like a lot of shoplifting going on and getting caught. Doesn't look like crimes like assault, mugging are happening there.
I'd say a trip to the mall was pretty safe.

Anonymous said...

I thought we had extra cops from GPD cruising the mall. Doesn't look like we're getting what we're paying for.

SCATS said...

To 3:26PM ~~ Please show us where it says anyone got caught shoplifting. These are just a few reports that shoplifting has happened, not cases solved. All of these events happened in 13 days time, but I'm pretty sure there were more cases not listed in the blotter. They pick & choose which crimes from a lengthy list they want to print.

By the way, if these many people are shoplifting, then we're going shopping elbow-to-elbow with a crowd of thieves, many of whom may take it to the next level after honing their skills. You ignored the more serious crimes listed which included:

grand larceny of an auto;
robbery;
grand larceny involving a credit card;
grand larceny;
and another robbery.

To 3:53PM ~~ With all of the security guards, cops, cameras and other devices, you'd think things would be working more smoothly, right?

Anonymous said...

Most serious crime of all... Auberger is still sitting on his throne!

Anonymous said...

This data doesn't mean anything and I don't think you can make any real opinions based upon it. But...

1) There are a lot of shoplifting's at the mall. Unfortunately, this is a crime that is hard to prevent. You can't put an officer at every store.

2) There are no arrest or clearance rates. You don't know how effective the department is being.

3) This isn't all that much crime. Greece is a town of 100,000 people; crime will undoubtedly happen. For years the crime has been and continues to cluster around the mall. As long as the rest of the town stays relatively crime free and short of getting rid of the mall, this trend will continue.

4) You can't make some statement about the upper brass hiding something. You provide no context. How does this compare to towns of the same population Part 1 crime? What about last year? What about over 5 years? Again this very limited data set proves nothing, except for some very generalizable statements.

Anonymous said...

This is a wilmorite issue. Not a GPD one.

SCATS said...

To 5:19PM ~~ Greece PD provides services to the mall that we foot the bill for, like it or not.

To 4:57PM ~~
1 - AGREED.
2 - I already stated earlier that this does NOT show crimes solved.
3 - It also does NOT show ALL crimes for the period of time covered. I bet a number of people who live in/near the Dewey Ave. area would disagree about crime being centered at the mall. I'm also sure there are other such neighborhoods in a town our size. It isn't well-publicized so that people can believe in the fairy tale about Greece becoming a Safest Town once again.
4 - I don't care about comparing to other communities. Using their figures doesn't resolve their troubles, instead it's used to dilute the magnitude of ours by certain folks. I am interested in whether things within Greece are improving, staying the same or getting worse.

Anonymous said...

To 4:57 you are either John Auberger (Scats you don't allow name calling but please let this go through) or you are drinking the saMe Kool Aid? Would you let your children go to the Mall at Greece Ridge and let them walk around by themselves?

The question is "How Safe Is A Visit To The Greece Ridge Mall?"

Anonymous said...

To SCATS,

I wrote the 4:57 response so ill respond to your response. The Dewey Avenue thing is true and crime has been a problem there, but I feel calls for service and reports in the general area of the mall and ridge road would far outweigh the Dewey avenue area. I would agree though, the Dewey Avenue area has had more violent crime over the years. This may well be a result of a sort of displacement of crime from the City of Rochester. It would be interesting to evaluate this.

Other than the numerous apartment complexes in town, there has never really been one other area of Greece that has popped out as a problem area. This is just how it has been, the demographic of that Dewey Avenue area is quite unique to the town and that really is a big issue there.

I'm not too sure if anything is or isn't being left out. Without knowing, I won't comment any more.

Your point about not comparing to other towns is taken, but this is one of the best ways to gauge crime. This really can give jurisdictions a good sense of to police. It would be nice to know crime in the previous time period to compare for any changes though, like you said.

SCATS said...

To 7:19PM ~~ Re apt. complexes ~ The English Village (Affinity Lane) complex is notorious for calls and they are in the middle of Greece.

Re: "I'm not too sure if anything is or isn't being left out..."

You see, that's a problem because under the corruption Auberger/Rahn permitted, we can't know if the stats from the past are correct or not! (Baxter has even mentioned this publicly.) That makes it a waste of time to try to compare to any other community.

Overall, I think we're pretty much on the same page here, though terminology like "displacement of crime from the city" seems to suggest the criminals erroneously stepped over the boundary line separating us from them. I see it as a problem that has grown in the city and expanded into Greece.

Anonymous said...

Since it doesn't look like anyone was harmed in any of these incidents, it's say pretty safe, actually.

SCATS said...

To 9:36PM ~~ If you were approached in the parking lot by someone demanding your wallet, would you assume they were unarmed, or armed? I assume that thieves are armed. I am fairly certain store employees are told to not approach people under suspicion for this very reason.

Anonymous said...

Affinity Lane has really gotten better. Ironically enough, the old administration teamed with the management there and really got rid of a lot of the problem tenants. The call volume there has decreased markedly in recent years.

I'm certainly not Auberger, but I was raised in Greece and since moved away, but I never had any problems going to the mall as a child. Shopliftings aside, most of the problems at GR come from opposing parties being there at the same time, a lot of whom come from the city. This is a problem in suburban malls everywhere as places to shop have closed in urban areas.

SCATS said...

To 10:24PM ~~ Things have changed drammatically at the mall in recent years. The bus stop by the food court is a big reason why those changes came, too. For the most part, it's NOT Greece residents causing the chaos. However, the chaos is impacting us with imposed curfews, shutdown carnivals, seniors who don't feel safe visiting after dark ...

Anonymous said...

Between Doan car boost and the robberies in the mall parking lot , it might be not safe in all of ridge rd. Remember the number of thefts from cars parked behind the restaurants on ridge near the 390?

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of fear mongering here. The high number of shoplifting (petite larcenies) inflate the numbers. There are no muggings, assaults, armed robberies, etc shown. I'll continue to go to the mall and all of you who don;t want to go just free up parking spots closer to the door for me. Thanks.

SCATS said...

To 7:39PM ~~ As I told someone with your perspective who posted yesterday, you ignored the more serious crimes listed which include:
grand larceny of an auto;
robbery;
grand larceny involving a credit card;
another grand larceny;
and another robbery.