Friday, April 29, 2011

GREECE BOE DUPED?


Are Lyndonville Schools About
To Be Merged Into Oblivion?

Article 1: One faction wants the Lyndonville community to save its school district, and stop looking for mergers with neighboring communities.

Another faction, mainly senior citizens with escalating property taxes, wants Lyndonville to look at merging with Albion or Medina, or perhaps splitting up the district to merge with more than one neighboring district.

Article 2: Merging the Barker and Lyndonville school districts has been talked about in the past. This time, there’s more than talk. Barker has a $36,000 grant that will be used to hire a consultant team for a merger/consolidation study.

The respective school boards and superintendents met this week to hire an independent consultant. When the groundwork is laid, a movement to merge may begin in the fall.

SCATS ~~ I want to personally thank our BOE for rescuing Babs before she faced unemployment. She's exactly what Greece does NOT need: A Supt. from a shrinking district where senior citizens are feeling squeezed by taxes! Isn't that the kind of school district Greece already is?
    

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

Babs encouraged the Lyndonville district to look at all options. It didn't not matter to her if she lost her job. She was looking out for the best for both the taxpayers and the district. You have gotten a superior manager. She even waived her buy out clause in the contract if we did merge. Don't be so critcal.

SCATS said...

To 2:07PM ~~ How nice of her to be so honest with the district she has left behind. Ever hear of the phrase "passing the trash" as it applies in education circles? It's obvious the place she is leaving is like Greece: high taxes with complaining citizens in a shrinking school district. I'll become her biggest fan when I see her shutdown a few schools, end SOCs, get transportation under control, raise grad rates/test scores, reduce drop out/failure rates ... with a shrinking budget, lowered tax rate, BOE support ... but alas, I realize it's Fairy Tale Friday since a Royal Wedding just took place ;)

Anonymous said...

The managers at Penneys at the mall manage as many people as she did in Lyndonville. They are "good managers" too. We are looking for someone who will be able to interact with parents and community groups as well as very strong union leaders and staff as she leads the students to improve their learning. She appears to be lacking the experience one should have to "manage" Greece schools. She will have lots of on the job training for herself as she puts all the new upper management employees through their orientation since many of the present upper level is retiring. The union will LOVE her naivete.

Anonymous said...

Lyndonville - NO pool.
NO football team.
ONLY 650 students (smaller than Longridge!).

She's completely out of her element, if she had any. Wait until she meets our sports booster parent groups. lol

Tom_Klotzbach said...

I want to personally thank our BOE for rescuing Babs before she faced unemployment.

This is old news. The Lyndonville school board voted unanimously to proceed forward with a straw vote for consolidation; the Barker school board voted to not proceed with a straw vote. So no merger vote will take place.

As far as using the phrase "passing the trash", calling Barb Deane-Williams "Babs", etc. - it's so easy to post anonymously and make negative comments about people. There's no doubt in my mind that you would not make those comments directly to Ms. Deane-Williams.

Anonymous said...

Greece may be at his level in a few years, too. Our enrollment is dropping, homes are hard to sell, people are still leaving. Yep, give it a few years and we'll seem very comfortable for the new superintendent.

Anonymous said...

This woman will be fine. She has character. That is something that has been lacking in Greece and still is lacking in the current District Office. Right Debbie?!?

Cup of Coffee in Greece

Anonymous said...

We do not have high taxes. Do your homework first . If the tax rate was a penny someone would complain. If god was to run your district, scats would tear him apart. Are you always this negative?

Anonymous said...

Lets hope Babs stocked up on barnboots while she was still kicking shit around Lyndonville.

She better be bringing damn good manure handling skills and equipment with her to GCSD. Then again all she has to do at Greece is nod her head when prompted and memorize answers provided by the puppet master.

Anonymous said...

To Mr Klotzbach ~~ Old news? I think not! The first article was posted on April 10, 2011, barely more than 2 weeks before our BOE selected her for the position here. As I said before, if she is so wonderful, perhaps you should have worked to keep her. Since we already have the conditions she created in your district, we really have no use for her.

By the way, I promise not to start sticking my nose into how you run your district since I don't pay your tax bills, and I would really appreciate similar consideration from you to us poor slobs in Greece, NY. Thanks.

To 8:47PM ~~ You need to read this article:
http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S2088348.shtml?cat=566

Anonymous said...

Everyone should view the documentary 'Waiting For Superman', a review of the workings of the public school system and it's effects on kids. Fascinating and eye-opening. Clearly the kids are the losers.

SCATS said...

To 11:53PM ~~ I've tried to rent that film a couple of times. It's never available, but I appreciate the reminder to keep watch for it.

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is that anyone I know who has moved south complains about how poor the schools are there compared to here. If we complain about our schools here what must be going on down there?

Tom_Klotzbach said...

To 11:33 Pm -- The votes by the Lyndonville and Barker school boards took place in December of 2010 and January of 2011. Stories on the merger study were in the newspapers locally and in Buffalo.

And as I stated before, we did not want her to leave Lyndonville. We can't force her to stay.

As far as sticking my nose into the affairs of the Greece district, I posted to the blog when people started making pejorative comments about Ms Deane-Williams and Lyndonville. I'm not letting those comments go unchallenged. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.

Anonymous said...

http://journal-register.com/local/x1414105827/Four-seek-three-seats-in-Lyndonville

So 6:37 was from a long time board member in Lyndonville. He heartily supported the merger of his district with Barker or anywhere. He is very supportive of our new superintendent but wants her to be here. Then she is safe and protected from losing her job there.
Funny how the district of lyndonville is not making headlines with who they will be hiring for superintendent or even an interim announcement. That district is even more unappealing to candidates than ours. Especially since it will be mout very soon.
Why is he so protective of her?

Anonymous said...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/lyndonville-ny/TNTBDRE964AU2HA8V#comments

Here are some comments in response to an article titles"is the lyndonville superintendent worth $158,000?"

Anonymous said...

Scats- that film is avail. at the Gates Public Library- no rental fee. Altho they will be closing for a month in mid-May because they are moving into a new building.

SCATS said...

To Tom Klotzbach @ 6:33AM ~~ Based upon the comments in the link posted by 8:10AM, I have no idea who the "we" is that you said wanted her to stay. Those comments cover the spectrum from her need to control (she'll fit right in here!) to her lifestyle choices that might negatively impact her ability to lead.

Yes, you ARE sticking your nose into Greece's business here. It appears your town will be celebrating her departure. After you finish responding to all 60 of the comments in the link posted by 8:10AM that concern her position & career in YOUR district, then you can feel free to respond about the implications of her coming to Greece. Until then, please bite your tongue.

To 10:43AM ~~ Thank you. I'll order it from the library ;)

Anonymous said...

Out of the frying pan and into the kiln. Barb is definitely out of her league now. Greece Central folk will chew her up, spit her out. How will she handle our angry sports boosters? Lyndonville didn't have football. How will she handle school of choice parents? Lyndonville has no choice! Our boe will use her, abuse her, scapegoat her ...... she won't even know what hit her.

Anonymous said...

...http://www.topix.com/forum/city/lyndonville-ny/TNTBDRE964AU2HA8V#comments

Here are some comments in response to an article titles"is the lyndonville superintendent worth $158,000?"...

Is the original article available? Or am I blind and not seeing it.

SCATS said...

To 1:01PM ~~ Those are just the comments. I don't see a link to the orig. article. I'm rather surprised the comments haven't been made to mysteriously disappear as damning evidence ;)

Anonymous said...

Evidence of what, Scats? Evidence that even s*** kicking towns like Lyndonville (words lifted from this blog; not my own), have mean-spirited, small minded, rabblerousers just like Greece. I think that Ms. Deane-Williams will be more than capable of handling all of you in Greece -- the only difference is -- will YOU be able to handle her?! She in no shrinking violet...get ready Scats. My prediction is that she will put you and your litter of negative minions in your place rather quickly. I, for one, can't wait to see it happen.

Anonymous said...

I'm rather surprised the comments haven't been made to mysteriously disappear as damning evidence ;)

That's a D&C tactic. The small-town newspaper may not stoop as low.

SCATS said...

To 2:54PM ~~ Tell me that after she completes her full contract here. No one has in quite awhile. By the way, a consultant's report from a number of years ago pegged Greece Central as having a very "toxic" environment. Guess what? That report was written about GCSD's history largely before this BLOG became necessary ;) As long as GCSD remains DYSFUNCTIONAL, "my place" is right here helping to get the issues out into the light of day. Her place is to fix our district's budget and other ills, raise educational outcomes and end the dysfunction, not worry about those who might oppose her. After two searches with over 50 responding candidates, she's the best we could do!!! lol

To 3:33PM ~~ Sometimes candidates from other areas get their history erased on here. I've seen it during this latest round of candidates ... even photos were removed ;)

Anonymous said...

...My prediction is that she will put you and your litter of negative minions in your place rather quickly. I, for one, can't wait to see it happen....

I can't wait either but for a different reason. I'd love to see someone clean up the GCSD and I hope she's the one to do it. I'd also love to see this blog gone- but only when it is no longer needed to open closed eyes. Until then- keep reading.

Anonymous said...

The comments are from a forum board. They were in response to an opinion about our new superintendent while she was/is in lyndonville. The original comment was not offered above the 60 comments. Sorry. But the 60 comments seem to chronicle someone that will get along very well with the after-meetings of our present board.

Anonymous said...

"Completes her first contract here..." You DO realize how Superintendent contract work, right? Of course you do....you're the omniscient SCATS. UNLESS the BOE decides not to extend a superintendent's contract, it continues on imperpetuity. For example, let's say a Supt. is given a 3 year contract...each year, the status of the Supt. is reviewed and the board decides whether to extend it or not. The maximum length that a contract can be is 5 years, the minimum 3. SO, if at the end of year 1, the board can decide one of 3 things. Don't extend which means the person IS DONE (regardless if the year of the "end date" is 2 years away), OR they can extend it by one year continuing the 3 year length...OR they can extend it to a 5 year contract. Learn some things before you go making assumptions about things you know nothing about.

As for things "disappearing" on the internet -- that's hard to accomplish unless the sites were owned by the school district where pics disappeared. For example, if there were something published (picture or text) by someone else, the person involved would have to request a "take down" notice of the owner of the site, publication, etc. That takes time, effort, energy and money. I think you are trying to whip the community up into a frenzy unnecessarily. You don't even know this woman....my God, the President of the US takes over after running much smaller things and no one loses their mind as much as you people do.

Give her a chance without the distraction of name calling, negative assumptions, etc. Doesn't she deserve that at least? I would think you would want the same courtesy were you starting a new job. If she can't or doesn't deliver, that will become evident soon enough -- without your help. Give it a rest already.

SCATS said...

To 4:44PM ~~ Amen to that! I'd love to be able to retire.

To 5:19PM ~~ Forum boards like that are usually where comments are left related to some news item. The original story is gone, but the overwhelmingly negative comments remain and provide insight into what Greece has just bought. God help us.

To 5:41PM ~~ Yes, I do recall how contracts work & they certainly aren't as cut & dried as you would lead us to believe! Example: Achramovitch was given a lousy performance review and told he was personna non grata considerably more than a year before we were able to dislodge him from Greece. You can't simply say "Sorry, but you aren't wanted any more." That's why it's called a contract. It's legally binding ;)

As for getting info off the internet, are you suggesting this lady with the glowing support of former BOE members had no political favors she could call in?? Even I have made things about myself vanish from the internet. If she can't do that much, she won't last here.

Last but not least, I'm wanting to know what she "delivered" in Lyndonville that would make us want her in Greece. It's more than a fair question, but apparently there is nothing anyone can point to since she left that district in similar condition to what Greece is already in: A shrinking student body and climbing taxes/budgets.

WHAT DOES SHE OFFER TO GREECE?

Anonymous said...

"WHAT DOES SHE OFFER TO GREECE?"

Well by god the woman is from Lyndonville, maybe she's going to ride in and kick some ass. She sure don't belong to the Greece Chamber of Conjobs or the Kiwanabee clown club, so who knows.

Personally I'm hoping she knows how to work up a decent lip of chew and play that high priced air conditioned piano we got living in air conditioned comfort like Pete Barbuti. I'd even settle for her playing like a girl. Maybe she can at least find that damn piano.

We had 1 super who bought a whole damn TV studio nobody knew a damn thing about, and nobody had any use for, and we got a damn piano nobody can find, and how many handicap lifts sitting in storage. Maybe Babs can kick some ass and not even slow down to take names. Maybe she drives a pickup and won't be needing a District car.

Does Babs have one of them fake doctor degrees like all the brilliant supers we had before? If not there might be hope.

Who the hell am I kidding?

Anonymous said...

It's a nickname for Barbara, yes scats. But MOST well mannered people don't just automatically dub someone a moniker such as that without a personal connection or permission. You're doing otherwise looks juvenile and condescending....

SCATS said...

To 5:39PM ~~ FYI, Barbara Streisand proudly goes by Babs.

Don't forget, "looks" can be deceiving (the GCSD budget is a perfect, for example!). Since you don't know me, you can't know whether or not Babs and I know each other, or whether or not I have permission to call her Babs :)

This ENDS the discussion about the nickname. Let's get on with what Babs will be doing for (or is to?) Greece.