Tuesday, February 15, 2011

GCSD Issues School Choice Fact Sheet

  
The Greece Central School District's Board of Education plans a study session on School Choice scheduled for March 15th @6:30PM. A public hearing will be scheduled into the future following that meeting.


Eliminate Sibling Priority at Schools of Choice

STATUS:. Proposed
Acceptance to one of the district’s three Schools of Choice would be for one child only. Younger siblings wishing to attend a School of Choice would have to apply and be accepted through the lottery process individually.

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

What a crock of crap! If I understand correctly, the only reason this garbage is even coming under a microscope now, is because of the incredible expense in this finacial climate, not the fairness of the system. So my question is: Sibling rule or not, where is the savings in the proposal? If their selecting now to ackowledge the system isn't fair, their admitting it hasn't been fair during the last two decades! They can't even say they didn't realize that, it's been brought up as far back as I can remember.

SCATS said...

To 3:38PM ~~ It wouldn't surprise me to find out that tackling the sibling rule was an idea the Supt. got after reading SCATS following last week's BOE meeting. I listed it as an unchanged item in my BLOG at that time (along with the lottery, etc).

Look at it this way, they aren't trying to save money, they're trying to save face! By using an interim Supt, they get to have a scapegoat for the decisions they lack the b*lls to make themselves.

Anonymous said...

TO 3:38pm.

too bad....you got almost everything you wanted. They just didn't fall on the sword and say you were right all along.. get over yourself and see the victory in front of you

SCATS said...

To 4:20PM ~~ Now, now. Just because schools-of-choice won't be nearly so inviting without the sibling rule is no reason to take out your anger on 3:38PM. In fact, I bet that elimination of the sibling rule is the first step to eliminating these schools. They will quickly become less popular, waiting lists will shrink then disappear, soon there will be no reason at all to retain them ... oh the possibilities ...

Anonymous said...

Excellent point 338. If we wern't in this economical mess the fairness of the system wouldn't even be an issue. I hope this opens the door to a law suit for those not entitled the private school education for the last 25 years. They are totally admitting it's been biased right along. Throw in the race card others have talked about, and watch how far it could go.

Anonymous said...

To Scats from 4:20

That's my point. I think no sibling rule will eventually have schools of choice disappear.
That's a good thing.
I just hate to hear people whine when they actually start to get exactly what they want.
I have no horse in this race, aside from my tax dollars.
These suggestions are a step in the right direction and we should all be happy. Instead of nit picking that no one groveled for your forgiveness.

SCATS said...

To 5:30PM ~~ I'm not seeing the request for forgiveness in 3:38PM's comment. Sorry.

It occurs to me that O'Rourke should take one more step here ... make Pinebrook & West Ridge each a K-2, 3-5 school ... two schools on each campus but contained in one building. Open enrollment for each level (K-2 or 3-5) via lottery with no sibling rule and we can get rid of these ridiculous facades for Greece reality sooner.

Anonymous said...

The administration and school board it would appear WANT to dig the lack of credibility hole just a little deeper.
Come budget vote time the community will have even more reasons than last year to say NO to what is proposed PLUS not getting anything done after last years NO.
To borrow from another poster it's all about TRUST.

Anonymous said...

This sibling rule discussion is to get people off of the BIG issue..that is a min. of two elementary schools plus Barnard could be closed starting in Sept. 2011. That would be a real dollar savings for the school district.

Sincerely,

Doug Skeet

Anonymous said...

"I have no horse in this race, aside from my tax dollars"

Guess what, a change in the sibling rule ain't doing squat to your tax dollars anytime soon. Also, I was wondeing if you're as smug and rude when your not Anonymous? My guess is your not!

Anonymous said...

Go back to neighborhood schools. Better for everyone.

SCATS said...

By the way folks, it turns out that this "FACT SHEET" wasn't created until today! So when we were all listening to last week's BOE meeting, it is true that O'Rourke never mentioned the sibling rule as being potentially eliminated. And where did Ms. Part-time Reporter come up with the notion that Odyssey's student body will be comprised by one-third each of students coming from the three new high school zones created under the plan? I see no reference to that anywhere else, not in the Attendance Committee report or the Fact Sheet.

Anonymous said...

Scats
I think I remember the super mentioning the 1/3 from each attendance zone during his recommendations last Tuesday.
I am beginning to think that the lovely reporter actually spoke to someone at district office.

SCATS said...

To 10:42PM ~~ Doesn't it seem odd that neither the Fact Sheet, nor the report mention this detail, at all?

Anonymous said...

It is also odd that the reporter does not give the source of her information. There is just an invitation to read some report but obviously some of her "facts" come from unnamed source or sources.
Aren't reporters supposed to say ......according to Mr. Jones or ......Mr. Jones said......." or paraphrase what was said and attribute it to the person?

Since the sibling issue was not spoken of at the board meeting(which was held a week ago and just got into the paper)why was it in the story without the source?
And the dividing of Odyssey into 3 parts was not spoken of in the meeting or in the report or in the fact sheet which was put together after complaints this afternoon.

Anonymous said...

Did you catch the part about Odyssey being moved into the current Apollo building? I'm not sure why that would need to happen or what would become of the 1000 kids currently at Apollo.

Anonymous said...

actually the committee report does have the 1/3 1/3 1/3 for OA only if it was to remain as a secondary option NOT as a school of choice.

As for the sib rule it will not cut down on transportation. A family of 3 kids below 6th grade could have kids on 3 busses One for PB one for k-2 and one for 3-5...

Anonymous said...

6-12
 Eliminate open enrollment secondary option  Maintain Odyssey Academy as a 6-12 open enrollment school, with 1/3,1/3,1/3
representation (or percentages based on enrollment balance needs) from the three
middle/high school attendance zones  Maintain priority area around Odyssey Academy

This is under item #17...

And the Super. did not follow the rec. of the the committee BTW

Anonymous said...

I am glad they are doing anything. In this case one step at a time is better than no steps at all. I say lets first understand where they are and then lobby to improve on that. Lets not just bitch based only on gossip! I learn a lot just my making a couple phone calls. Try it, it does work!

SCATS said...

To 11:44AM ~~ What "gossip?" This discussion is based upon info shared at a BOE meeting last week, a 143 pg. report from the Attendance Committee, a Fact Sheet issued by the district, and some less than professional reporting by the media. Maybe you should put down your phone and try actually reading the documents your tax dollars paid for.

Anonymous said...

Are we supposed to claim to to happy that the district if claiming to ackowledge problems with the system, only as a tool to help pass or justify a budget? Where were these admissions over the last 15 years? The problems have been present right along! I agree that it's a step in the right direction, but why does it need to be done in steps at all. Fix it now, and it's done!

SCATS said...

To 6:03AM ~~ Yes, I caught that part the night O'Rourke read his recommendations at the meeting. I'm rather shocked that neither the report nor the fact sheet explains where he would house them after moving them to the Olympia campus. There has been a push in recent years to physically pair-up Olympia with Apollo as the other middle schools and high schools already share a campus. I think the reasons for doing so are largely being driven by the sports boosters. Odyssey would have their own fields at their school facility (they are at Long Ridge currently) if this move were made ;)

SCATS said...

To 11:53AM ~~ I agree. They should just do it. I also think Doug Skeet's assertion is correct: Doing this now is a diversion away from the need to close several schools ASAP.

Anonymous said...

We are in pretty rough shape if Brighton is causing dissent with their limited community hours in the pool they bought 10 years ago. Also Mary Alice in Pittsford is feeling the pinch and recommending using their "rainy day" reserve accounts.
When the east side is feeling disharmony and dissent it does not bode well for the rest.
All of this posturing about the schools of choice and transportation costs are just a drop in the budget. They are terrified that they will not be able to pass even a bare bones spending plan if most of the Greece community that votes feels like they are on the wrong side of the tracks if they are not in a school of choice family.
These recommendations are not promises and have not been presented as such. This is a con game to try to placate the community and still not alienate the choice parents that have warned the administration they won't pass a budget without their choice schools. The minute they get what they want after the vote or decision to go to austerity, those recommendations will disappear. Nice bait and switch.
"We feel you pain and know what should be addressed , but nothing will change because there will not be a transportation cost reduction".

Anonymous said...

So, when will the Greece BOE start considering the K-8 model that has finally reached the Rochester district?
Maybe as part of the re-allignment of schools, we should look at this model as part of the change????

Anonymous said...

To Scats - 11:56: Where would Apollo kids go if Ody. takes over the current Apollo building? We are talking about 1000 kids. They won't fit into Athena Middle or Arcadia Middle....and I don't know what the heck Olympia "Campus" is. Is it a new building they want to build? Would it be the old Ody.? Would they just jam them into the Olympia Library?

SCATS said...

To 12:32PM ~~ I hate to say it, but I think you might be right on with your comments. It all goes back to our lack of trust in a district who has taught us previously that they are devious, pull the "bait & switch" tactic, doesn't it? Sad, but reality isn't always pleasant. I hear a budget falling with thunder-like impact, don't you?

To 1:37PM ~~ O'Rourke didn't address it at all as far I'm aware. The Olympia campus is just that, the Olympia HS location ... I wonder if he envisions a new school building? OR possibly he thinks that by channeling 1/3 of Apollo/Olympia students into Odyssey there will be space at Olympia for the rest? Sounds like an idea that needs much more work.

Anonymous said...

So kids may be moved after starting 6th grade next year in their now homeschool if OA is relocated to Apollo, because some kids may be rezoned to ATSM and ACMS? This is beyond crazy! All this so school of choice can stay the same? If you are going to redistrict do it for the entire district Then the real saving could occur, reduce bussing close buildings reduce staff the possibilities. Bussing will be reduce a small amount but as long as SOC remain we will have a can of worms bussing map.

Anonymous said...

There should be no exceptions to anything, kids go to school in their neighborhood - period.

SCATS said...

To 5:59PM ~~ Not a can of worms, but a bowl of spaghetti according to the Supt ;)