Sunday, November 28, 2010

If There's Nothing To Hide, Why Act Sneaky?

  
It's Sunday afternoon and I'm sitting with a friend in the Tim Horton's/Cold Stone Creamery on W. Ridge Rd. in Greece. As I gaze out the window, a Greece Police car with two young officers pulls in and parks behind a construction site trailer located next door. That's when I noticed a second car is parked next to them, hidden from direct view by the trailer. The two officers get out of their car and two young females emerge from theirs. The four obviously planned this liasion - they walk together in a group and begin chatting as they entered Tim Hortons.

I'm quite aware that police officers are entitled to coffee/meal breaks and I have no problem with that. What I'm not clear about is any logical explanation for hiding their vehicle from view, especially if everything else is copacetic.

I wonder, is it appropriate behavior to schedule breaks to meet with members of the opposite sex while on duty? If it is, why hide it? If it isn't, Chief Todd needs to pull in the reigns.

To be fair, I've seen other GPD cars "hidden" behind other coffee shops and restaurants around town at times, too. I'm wondering, why don't they park with the rest of us commoners, instead of next to a dumpster, construction trailer, out building, etc? For that matter, why park in the Fire Lane at Wegmans while flirting with the girls in the deli who are dishing up your $6 meal? If we can't do it, why should the cops when they aren't on a call?

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I wonder, is it appropriate behavior to schedule breaks to meet with members of the opposite? If it is, why hide it? If it isn't, Chief Todd needs to pull in the reigns."

Police officers shouldn't be allowed to have breaks to meet with females which are often times wives or girlfriends?

This post is probably the worst I have ever read on this site. The only thing wrong with this situation is a member of society with too much time on their hands watching police officers go about their business. No wonder they hide their cars so people like you won't bother them when they are trying to take a break.

SCATS said...

To 6:44PM ~~ Re: "Police officers shouldn't be allowed to have breaks to meet with females which are often times wives or girlfriends?" That is the question. I didn't answer it, I asked it.

How often have you met with your wife or girlfriend (presumably you weren't married at the time) and hidden your work vehicle from view while doing so? Never? I thought so ;) Thus, the questions and the post.

Anonymous said...

The answer to the question is obvious. Officers should be allowed to eat with whoever they want on a break. That shouldn't be anyone's concern and I can't believe it would even have to be asked.

SCATS said...

To 7:30PM ~~ Had both cars been parked in the nearly empty lot, there wouldn't have been any questions to ask and no sneaky behavior to observe, capisce? ;)

Anonymous said...

6:44 sounds like Scats really got his panties in a twist on this subject. Maybe it hit a little too close to home? You gotta love when people complain how bad the blog is, but never miss reading it LOL!!!!

Scats, I suggest that next time you get the car number and post it with the other facts. Then the situation with the cops could be handled by the higher ups. Just my two cents worth.

Anonymous said...

I agree, this post is ridiculous. Where they parked is a perfectly legal parking spot. Meeting someone for lunch or a break, whether male or female is also perfectly legal. There is plenty wrong in Greece, this ain't one of them. Let's keep our focus on the stuff that needs it.

SCATS said...

To 7:59PM ~~ Actually, I have it.

To 8PM ~~ The cars were NOT in the Tim Hortons lot. They were in the construction site adjacent to it, behind a trailer.

Again I ask, how often do you hide your car before entering a business if everything you're doing is above board? This reminds me of all those GPD cars that used to park outside the Tub 'n Tan. Of course, there was NOTHING to see there either ;)

Anonymous said...

The behavior of these cops and their two lady friends reminds me of my teens when they've been up to no good. They hide. They get sneaky. They whisper and text. Maybe the problem here is that too many Greece policemen have girlfriends in addition to their wives. It wouldn't be a first time for that, now would it?

Anonymous said...

On the topic of Greece Police...my daughter and I were eating lunch at the Mt. Read Wegman's last week, and two uniformed GPD officers sat down close to us. In about five minutes of conversation between the two officers, my daughter and I heard numerous swear words, and a story about how they were looking forward to a trip to Albany to go out drinking. Do whatever you want and speak however you'd like, but not when you are a GPD officer in uniform in public. It was a wasted opportunity to make a good public impression on me, my daughter, and the others around us. Too bad.

Anonymous said...

Just because they were parked next to the Tom Hortons lot behind a trailer automatically means they were trying to hide? Sorry, but no, that theory wont hold up in a court of law. But I guess I'm just not as suspicious and cynical as you are. And I have been to that Tim Hortons a time or two. I go thru the drive thru then park in the lot next door to eat. I guess I'm up to no good too?

Anonymous said...

8:45 PM
It was a wasted opportunity allright.

You could and SHOULD have recorded it and posted the recording on the Internet.

Anonymous said...

It's a boy's club. Get over it.

Anonymous said...

Something else that is just not right. At the Brueggers in the Latta Long Pond Plaza many times an unmarked command staff car and marked units as well are sitting in the parking lot locked and running. On occasion I left the coffee shop did some shopping at Weggies and about 20 minutes later the two cars were still sitting and running so long that the ice under the cars had melted. With the fiscal challenges that this community faces this is an insult to the people who pay the bills.

SCATS said...

To 11:40PM ~~ The "lot next door" is behind the trailer on the construction site. So WHAT are YOU hiding??

To 5:31AM ~~ Oh I see ... so then nothing changed with Chief Todd in command? Now, I get it.

As often happens when I question questionable behavior, I get knee-jerk, defensive responses from people with guilty consciences or their protectors. I'm still waiting for people to get over their defensiveness and provide a logical response to the questions I asked, starting with: If there's nothing to hide, why behave in a sneaky fashion?

Anonymous said...

To 11:40PM ~~ The "lot next door" is behind the trailer on the construction site. So WHAT are YOU hiding??

Not a damn thing, just eating my bacon club and timbits.

Anonymous said...

I guess some of us don't consider it sneaky.

Anonymous said...

How is what they are doing behaving in a sneaky fashion? So is someone who parks at the rear of a parking lot or in an adjoining lot suspicious too?

They probably want to be parked away from intruding people. Contrary to what you feel, some police officers who want to take a break don't want to be bothered by citizens.

Anonymous said...

Scats,
Maybe they were getting together to plan a friend's surprise birthday party.

Maybe they were getting together to put the final touches on a surprise 50th wedding anniversary for their parents.

Maybe they were getting together to measure the sizes of various dumpsters in the greater Greece area.

Or maybe they just decided to parking the back because they hate hearing the cops in the donut shop jokes.

Enough logical responses? And none of them includes the dirty little innuendos you so coyly suggest.

SCATS said...

To 3:30PM to 4:50PM ~~ Some of your "explanations" only work for the cops, not for the women they met. The others don't work at all given that the 4 people all went inside, instead of the drive-thru ;)

To 4:50PM ~~ I see little "logic" in anything you wrote. You really shouldn't be blogging on the taxpayer's clock, now should you?

Anonymous said...

Get off your high horse 4:50. How many of the cops involved in the meltdown under Rahn had a little sumpin' sumpin' going on the side? Try all of them. There's even a special name for the women who lend themselves to hanging out with cops and firemen whether married or not.

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Anonymous said...

There you are now - Wiki-SCATS.
Rather than have a life of your own, rather than have facts in evidence, rather than have the balls to identify one's-self - let's sit in anonymity and accuse the very people you hope will protect you when the inner-city-types come out to rob you of being subversive by not parking in the fire lane or handicap spot like you likely did (without the permit). You have been "busted".

I sign myself,

"Equally Anonymous"

SCATS said...

The comment posted at 6:12PM was deleted by BLOG Administration for name-calling. Several other comments were received and are unacceptablr for posting.

It's fairly obvious that I've really hit a nerve or three with this particular BLOG. Apparently, sneaky behavior is meaningful, but then most of us already knew that.

To 8:12PM ~~ It would probably shock you to know that I respect the law. Thus, I've had no tickets, because I don't do what the masses do by trying to bend the rules.

Since the responses on this thread have dissolved into totally illogical drivel reacting to a topic that appears to be right on target, I'm unlikely to post new comments unless it says something new, meaningful and appeals to the common sense of mainstream people.

Anonymous said...

Just a couple of comments. Regarding Police protecting us. It is not and never has been the job of the Police to offer individual protection to us. The responsibility for your protection rests with the individual. The problem with Police today as I see it is that there are not many entering the Police Service because they really want to be Police Officers it is merely a paycheck and good benefits. As for not wanting to be bothered when on a code 37 or 38 your union tells us that as a Police officer you are on duty 24/7 please clarify your comment.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible that there is an unwritten policy in Greece Police that if possible they park behind the restaurants where they take their breaks. It would be like an exterminator using an unmarked truck. Pay no attention to the man wearing a mask and spraying chemicals.
If there were police cars there it might look like they were doing their jobs and responding to a crime. Too many times it might look like it was dangerous to sit and relax at that establishment. Why else would they deliberately park in a hidden area?
Having the school police at the high schools in an unknown schedule serves the same purpose. If we see a police car at Olympia we might think it was not a police response but just regular assignment. Hide in plain sight there.

SCATS said...

To 7:55AM ~~ Thanks for reminding us about who the police truly serve.

To 11:10AM ~~ It sounds like the "Chamber of Commerce Rule" ~ park out of sight so you don't drive away paying customers. While it makes sense on the one hand, it fails to explain why the young women who met the cops were there first and also hidden. As I said earlier, it was fairly obvious this was a pre-planned liasion. It also fails to explain why it's OK to park right in front of a place like Wegmans, blocking the Fire Lane!

As for the schools, I've seen a GPD car parked right in the front bus loop repeatedly this fall. Apparently they want everyone knowing they are on premises ... or are just too lazy to park in the actual lot.

SCATS said...

At Apollo, I meant to say ;)

SCATS said...

An FYI to readers ~~ I just logged onto Facebook for the first time in a bit and see that I have several positive messages and a couple of "likes" for this BLOG post. And I've received several supportive emails. Of course, I also received the usual faux threatening emails by the losers who think they know my identity. Balance is good :)

Anonymous said...

So I guess there is a benefit to being gay, no one knows when you're having a lurid moment over coffee and donuts at the sub shop. Marvelous. Only an issue for those meeting with the opposite sex.

Anonymous said...

I was just thinking the other day about the "scary" craigslist theats of a year or so ago. Remember the "Your identity will soon be revealed" posts....classic LOL.

SCATS said...

To 9:15PM ~~ If you want to call that a benefit ...

To 8:22AM ~~ Well certain people have to entertain themselves somehow after failing at competing ;)

Anonymous said...

Did you know that not too long ago, the GPD had a"Ride Long" policy. During their shifts, officer were allowed to let their wife's, kids, neighbors and even their girl friends ride with them for part or all of their shift. Iam not sure that is still the case under Baxter probably not. The female officers had the same privileges . So two cops having coffee with two females is nothing to get in a snit over.
For all we know, they were their wifes. Even so, if it was their female friends so what. After all, Tim Hortons is a respectable establishment with a huge clientele As such, I see no reason to believe they, the cops, we're engaged in sneaky conduct regardless as to where they parked their cars.

Anonymous said...

You are smart but not that smart. You have without realizing it given yourself away.That is usually what happens. Smart people eventually out smart themselves as in you case. Make no mistake some of know.but it really doesn't matter in the long run to me. But others, now that could be different matter entirely

SCATS said...

To 1:47PM ~~ I had heard about that .. amazing.

To 3:45PM ~~ Threats, threats, threats. I've heard & seen it all over almost 7 years time. I'm sure if anyone had any proof, which I'm confident they do not, it would have been written in the sky over Greece by now. I've collected a list of about 70 different names of people who are supposedly SCATS over the last 7 years. Chances are YOUR name is on it. Oh wait!! YOUR NAME IS ON IT :).

SCATS said...

By the way, it is most amusing that you attempt to make it look as if several different people wrote in to comment on the exact same thread that is 2 years old within a few hours of each other ;) You should consider a new hobby ... how about knitting?