Thursday, November 04, 2010

Here We Go Again ...

   
The Greece Central School District Board of Education plans a community forum Nov. 15 to gather information on the qualities & skills residents would like to see in the district’s next supt.

SCATS ~~ What did they do with all of the info they gathered by internet, by mail and at the meeting held one year ago? Did they lose their notes? Just because they didn't like what they heard doesn't mean it's no longer valid! What's changed, other than the fact the BOE has burned through another bunch of candidates they couldn't control?
 

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

All we need is someone willing to have half their salary dependant on performance improvements aggreed to by all parties. .

Anonymous said...

Maybe they just want to give the community an additional opportunity to weight in on this topic. Why does everything always have to be negative? You were just complaining that you didn't know what was happening with the search. Damned it you do damned if you don't.

SCATS said...

To 10:21AM ~~ OR maybe they just want to be able to say hardly anyone showed up so know one cares how they proceed. When was the last time this BOE actually listened to the community's input and acted accordingly? They ignored the "no" vote.

FYI ~ Having another forum tells us absolutely NOTHING about where things stand with the search ;)

PS ~~ You really ought to proof read before you post, Mr. BOE member ;)

Anonymous said...

I agree with scats. This forum won't shed light on what's been happening. If they wanted to inform us, they would make a statement at a board meeting, issue a press release, send another mailing........... Oberg has been 'leading' with the sounds of silence and his head in the sand. Par for the course.

Anonymous said...

Hire a woman, they work cheap!

SCATS said...

To 1:22PM ~~ Great idea! When can your wife start? lol

Charlie Hubbard said...

Scats, you make the best point of all - if this school board did NOT care what the community (the owners of this school district) said with their vote on the budget please tell me 'why' any member of that same community would believe the board now wants to hear what the community thinks. 'Why' would any member of this community think their opinion would be 'respected'?
You (the board) are going to do what ever you want anyway - right?
I have yet to hear the board say what they did was wrong. In June I heard 5 board members vote NOT to have another vote based on the cost. Phony as that was I did NOT hear the other 4 challenge that phonyness or voice a concern. In August I heard a vote of 8-0 to increase taxes via the tax warrant and again NO concern voiced over the way things had been done. To this day I still have NOT heard a concern from the board - no apology which tells me they 'still' think what they did was OK - the reason - the law 'allows' them to be disrespectfull to the community so it must be OK.

Until the board and administration 'stand up' and tell the community their opinion will from this day forward be respected and heard - until that happens the community should tell them to go pound salt. Perhaps they could at least tell us 'which' opinions are going to be listened to.

chubbard005@rochester.rr.com

SCATS said...

Well said Charlie. Adding insult to injury, this BOE continues to add back in things they subtracted out! We're starting out with a tax rate for the upcoming budget that is right where it was when the community said "no!" History repeats itself so fast in this town.

Anonymous said...

10:21 I filled out one of the online questionnaires. They had the input from the community since I am sure others filled out the form or went to the meetings. Can't they at least start with that data or is it that obsolete? Has the complexion of the district changed so much in 1 year?
Or did the previous input give them the final 2 candidates which the board interviewed and insulted and paraded before the community and discarded?

Anonymous said...

Not really a related story, but did anyone catch the story on Hornell issuing Macbooks to every child in a particular graden with plans to continue in future grades? Yes....Hornell! Glad we make the choice to spend our money on desiel fuel instead!

SCATS said...

To 7:43PM ~~ A few yrs. ago, someone told me that certain classrooms at Buckman Hts. School had a laptop for every student. Just don't talk about this too loudly. I don't want the geniuses on the BOE getting any ideas ;)

Anonymous said...

Yes, I heard the story too. They get laptop computers to keep with them 24 hours a day, and we get extra bussing. That's freaking insane! I want to say that Kearney kids got the same thing a few years back, but donated of course. This Hornell thing however just spotlights how we choose to waste money in Greece. I'm quite certain Hornell can point out educational benefits for the laptops, I'm just waiting for Greece to show the benefit of the bussing!

Anonymous said...

Yes, buy more technology to sit, unused. But if buying it makes you feel better, do it. Great idea.

Anonymous said...

Hey Scats, lets hear something positive for a change-not one Greece school made the "need to improve list". I'm sure you'll take credit for it. Try thanking the teachers/administrators of the schools who worked for this. You always bash them, try saying a new word "THANKS".

Anonymous said...

I have had kids going to Buckman for the last 6 years there are no classes that have laptops for the children. It amazes me what rumors spread because of the ignorance around PYP IB.

Anonymous said...

I happen to think this forum is the boards way of explaining away the stupid chump change comment. A new way to show how much they care about the community.

SCATS said...

To 6:45AM ~~ There is no way in H-E-double hockey sticks that I'm going to thank or congratulate Greece employees for doing WHAT EVERYONE EXPECTS THEM TO DO in return for the salary received!! Keeping our schools off the "needs improvement" list is performing at a minimal level, not "exceeding expectations" and certainly not akin to going the extra mile!

Anonymous said...

6:45 So if the schools do just good enough it is the teachers that get the credit. If the schools are falling behind like our middle schools have been it is due to the families on the school lunch subsidy program.
Good results are due to teachers. Bad results are the fault of parents.

Anonymous said...

5:33, just to clarify, you support spending money on gas for no educational benefit, rather than on the tools our kids will need to be proficient in using in their future? I can agree that perhaps neither are worthy of the expense, but if you had to choose one, you spending on... Gas?

SCATS said...

To 4:12PM ~~ By jove, I think you've got it! I'll bet the teachers and principals expect a raise for keeping us off those "needs improvement" lists, too.

Anonymous said...

4:18-
It isn't a question of "gas" or "technology". That is a senseless hypothetical proposition.

The issue is truly this simple: spend the money in a way that will benefit student learning and performance. Buying more technology that will likely go unused makes sense only in Greece.

1:1 laptop initiatives are effective ONLY with a well thought-through plan. Henrico County VA pioneered it 5+ years ago to national accolades. It crashed and burned later because their Mac books were "cool", but implemented without a plan.

Greece can't put measurable goals in its Superintendent's contract and you expect they can put measurable goals to such a technology initiative? Puh-leeze.

I've been told that Ann Mitchell relies on her secretary to manage her lotus notes meeting calendar. Now THAT's leadership worthy of leading a 1:1 laptop program for the kids!

On the other hand, buying laptops for kids makes a community feel like they are doing something constructive. Do it, Greece. Just keep your expectations low as it plays out.

Anonymous said...

6:24, I agree with you, our bussing and/or laptop purchase are both horrible ideas.

Anonymous said...

8:20-
Then we are both very smart people.
;)

Really, Really! said...

good read