Thursday, November 11, 2010

Average Local School Salaries Range From $24K To $51K

The average salary in the Greece Central School District is $37,003, according to the Empire Center.

Median Monroe County household income is $51,799, according to census data.

Superintendent Jean-Claude Brizard of the City School District, who earned $248,520 in 2009-10, and Pittsford Central School District Superintendent Mary Alice Price, who earned $246,242 made the list of the top 100 highest-paid school employees in the state.

The average salary "is a statistic, but I don't know what it could possibly illustrate." ~~ Interim Supt. John O'Rourke, GCSD

SOURCE

Empire Center: Teacher & School Employee Salaries

SCATS ~~ Did O'Rourke study math using the Math Investigations curriculum we finally ditched?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Greece does not seem extremely high except for a few at the top

SCATS said...

To 5:52PM ~~ To some extent, I think we have let many of the the older teaching staff retire early.

Anonymous said...

But the budget is made up of the average salary multiplied by the number receiving it! As our student population drops, shouldn't the number of staff, teachers, administrators be coming down? Any reports of the number of admin/teachers and the student/teacher ratio over the past 10-15 years?

SCATS said...

To 7:07PM ~~ The average salary is used to budget? I've never heard that before. I agree the number ofneeded teachers and classrooms and schools and buses should all be reduced with declining enrollments. They are using special ed as their excuse here, just like they use the free/reduced lunch numbers as the excuse for not educating anyone. Guess what a new study showed recently? That white kids from non-impoverished homes aren't doing well in the US either!

Anonymous said...

Please remember this number takes every employee and divides that number into the total school budget. It is hard to know the value of this average salary number because some districts reported part-time employees, such substitute teachers and other districts did not report such teachers

If we could assume equal reporting, it does show that some school districts are more efficient than others. For example Hilton can operate at $28,600 per employee and in Greece the average is $37,003.

With this example we can say Hilton runs their school district23% more financially efficient than Greece Central.

Sincerely

Doug Skeet

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ Maybe you know the answer to this: When building our budget, do they use the figures from our actual payroll, or do they use "averages?" I guess I assumed they knew what the payroll figures were then added X% for raises.

Anonymous said...

I think 7:07's point is that the employee costs go into the budget as an aggregate cost. We should see a reduction in the staffing as our population decreases.

SCATS said...

To 9:11PM ~~ As I said earlier, I agree!

Anonymous said...

Using average salaries is useless in my opinion. We should be using "median" salary which would be more telling. Meaning half of the teachers are earning below the median and half are earning above the median. The D&C story was not researched very well and it did NOT inclued the lucrative health care benfits the union enjoys. And you can't use average salary and then use median income for residents in a story. Apples and oranges comparison.

Anonymous said...

They build up the budget based on the number of employees at each wage step and then increment that for the next year. They over estimate the total $ by under estimating the number of retirees. At the end of the fiscal year they have money left over and pat themselves on the back for doing a good job of managing our money (if they haven't used that extra money to cover up some other shortfall).
The public then congratulates them for once again doing a good job of lying. And so it goes.

SCATS said...

To 6:42AM ~~ You're right about comparing apples to oranges, but maybe they didn't teach that you can't do that under the previous math curriculum ;)

To 3:40PM ~~ So, you're onto their methods, too?

Anonymous said...

The average salary "is a statistic, but I don't know what it could possibly illustrate." ~~ Interim Supt. John O'Rourke, GCSD

SCATS ~~ Did O'Rourke study math using the Math Investigations curriculum we finally ditched?


To 6:42AM ~~ You're right about comparing apples to oranges, but maybe they didn't teach that you can't do that under the previous math curriculum ;)



So now you're agreeing with O'Rourke? ;) Doh!

SCATS said...

To 4:26PM ~~ No, I'm not agreeing with him. I'm agreeing that apples & oranges can't be used as a comparison in math.

Anonymous said...

I've used Apples and Oranges when I make fruit salad. They go together quite nicely!

-A

Anonymous said...

So then you are agreeing with him since that is what he is saying... it's a statistic with little value...

SCATS said...

To 6:20AM ~~ No, I am NOT agreeing with O'Rourke. O'Rourke lumps ALL statistics together. I simply agreed with a previous comment
(11/12/2010 @6:42AM's) that stated apples and oranges can't be compared. Please TRY to keep up ;)