Saturday, October 16, 2010

Lighted Athletic Fields In The News

  
Greece Sports Boosters Remain Mum ...
At Least In Public

Over the weeks since school opened. I've heard several news stories about how "special" night football games under the lights can be. The first was a BLOG by 13WHAM's Evan White.  

These stories are also usually accompanied by those who bemoan school districts like Greece that have no lights yet, while pushing for lights in districts like Fairport that seem interested despite the cost and the neighbor's protests. Oddly, the Greece Central School District wasn't mentioned for its lack of lighted fields and none of our usually very verbal sports boosters were quoted.

This week, the D&C ran an article titled: "Athletic field lights illuminate concerns" in which Greece was merely mentioned for lacking lights. Again, no one went on record to support getting lighted athletic fields, as they did the last time we had an interim superintendent in place.

Have Greece's booster clubs given up? I highly doubt it. I'm betting they are still working overtime on it, but away from where the community can see what we'll be made to tolerate once they are able to finally sell our school board on a plan. Until then, stay tuned. We'll continue watching and listening ;)

 

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I bet those games are extra special for residents who live nearby

Anonymous said...

First of all, schools exist for education, not sports.
Second of all, we should be working to improve our education performance before getting wrapped around the axle over sports.
Third, what's so wrong about playing on Saturday afternoon? (Other than the green-eyed observation that some "well-to-do" districts have lights, I mean)
Where is the benefit in graduation rate, or scholastic performance in having lighted fields?

Anonymous said...

2:21, you forgot to mention that thinking about turf fields and lighted games in this economy when we're already on an austerity budget defies common sense. I get SCATS' point about being vigilant since we have an interim super in charge. There's no accountability once he leaves.

Anonymous said...

All our superintendents are "interim". It's the same for the other districts. With very few exceptions they move from place to place and state to state with their 3 to 5 year contracts and then eventually settle down somewhere after the age of 60 so they can every so often fill in as a true "interim". None of them are accountable.

Anonymous said...

The turf fields come with their own unique issues. Once installed, they need to be regularly maintained & sanitized. It would be interesting to see how many schools have taken out artificial turf fields because of health/safety issues.

Anonymous said...

To 10/16/10 @ 2:21PM......AMEN!! My sentiments exactly!

Yuckles d'Clown said...

Greece doesn't deserve a performing arts center.

Greece doesn't deserve lighted athletic fields.

In case you think I'm being all negative, let me turn it around:

Greece deserves the reputation it has carefully built over the last decade.

Anonymous said...

The residents? You buy a house bordering a school...I guess to ask them to tolerate the few months a year the fields are used isnt asking that much seeing as the rest of the time (winter months) they dont hear a thing. Going to all the other smaller disctricts and playing on their turf lit fields just makes it more embarassing to be a greece resident. Does GCSD do anything right? To 4:25 - the cost to the light the field? Isnt it funny smaller districts can pull that off, instead Greece pays their inept AD's 118,000. Please! Since when is greece cost aware? Only when it pertains to the kids! PS to 221 why is it other districts can do both? sports and academics, Greece doesnt seem to be very successful at either hmmmmmmmm

Anonymous said...

Oh yes we wouldnt want to encourage night time games for fear it will keep a resident up beyong 830 pm. I mean afterall, it isnt about the kids. Why patronize kids keeping grades, discipline, team spirit...and playing sports. Ironically every other district has had lights and now they are slowly putting in turf. Of course Greece, the disfunctional school district isnt on the same page. *sighs* why oh why is it always us? To address 221 wake up, sports are part of a high school career, as is band, drama..are you opposed to the plays as well? I mean doesnt that cause traffic jams - oh my how do the residents cope? Get real! You dont have to be a sports parents to see that even "well to do" districts have lights! Are you claiming that East Irondequoit is a wealthy district? To sit there and say sports attributes nothing to academic rates tells me your child was cut from a team!

SCATS said...

To 9:20AM ~~ Unless YOU live near one of those schools, YOU have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Once lights go on a field, the district could put those field into use 24/7 if the wanted to, because local/town ordinances for noise, etc. do NOT pertain to school districts.

To 9:37AM ~~ You are WRONG. Not every other district has lights. Let's "get real" about Greece's reputation on the field, in the stands and in the classroom. After we deal with all of those issues related to behavior and discipline and academics, then maybe Greece will deserve lighted turf fields. Until then, we've got some of the most belligerent parents in the stands of any district around, and they keep showing it on here.

Anonymous said...

9;20 and 9;27
A solution to both problems;
Eliminate the 'need' for security in the high schools 'control yourselves' will free up more than enough money for lights and turf.

Anonymous said...

English Road park lights are ready to go. Use them. Quit moaning.

Anonymous said...

Sanitizing and upkeep on artificial turf is more costly by 3 times than the real surface. There is more chance for injury and infections.
In this economy there is no chance for lights in Greece. Even if someone wanted to raise money , it would not happen. They lost their chance during better economic times. Now the festival for youth is gone because of planned fights. It won't happen.

Anonymous said...

to 9:37, we can have sports and the benefits they claim without playing night games. Can;t the benefits come on Saturday afternoon? Or is one of the benefits learning how to have what everyone else has? What benefits come from lighted field?

Anonymous said...

6:26-Community pride.

Then again, I think I have it backward. Community pride and unity drives the installation of lighted fields.

With very little of one, it is difficult to envision the other ever happening.

Anonymous said...

6:05 am- Do you really expect "the community" to rally for lighted fields? Did you forget Greece is predominately populated by senior citizens? Supporters of such projects are the minority not the majority.

Anonymous said...

To 605 and 827:
Community pride would come from academic achievement; pride would come from not being at, or near, the bottom on every academic measure in the suburbs!
I don't think the senior citizens would object to the cost of education if they saw some real achievement.
No one is saying "no" to sports, just to the increased cost and maintenance of lighted fields. Or do you think the sports parents will pay the light bills and maintenance costs after they pay for the installation?

SCATS said...

To 11:21AM ~~ You hit the nail on the head! In Greece, the sportsboosters are the tail trying to wag the dog. It has been to the detriment of the district. Academics MUST be put first and foremeost. Until we succeed in the classroom, the extracurriculars are nothing but a distraction from where the resources need to be focused.

Anonymous said...

If the punks in Greece started all those fights during the day (Greece carnival, etc.) just imagine how many fights would occur at night!

SCATS said...

To 6:34PM ~~ The fight at the mall carnival involved young people who came to Greece on a bus.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if you all had this attitude when it came to putting in the "performing arts center". Or is it wonderful if your son is a ballerina, just not an athlete at GCSD.

P.S. Thanks 221 for the tip on schools exist for education. Whoathunk?

I guess the point I was trying to make was, districts all over the county have added turf lit fields. Even during austerity budgets. A Senior night played in the day, hmmm what am I missing? I guess I have to question how the district could put the fields into 24/7 use. The negativity on this site, which I know is from the employees up on the 3rd floor of Cardinal Mooney, is partly why greece is such a failing district.

Anonymous said...

Make Greece a safe community again: Ban Buses.

Anonymous said...

to 1:25, you cant be serious?????? You buy a house bordering a school and the sound of kids playing on a field upsets you?? I mean why live in a suburb if something like that upsets you? Move to Hamlin with 10 acres! Disgusting the take you all have on a school, or is it because you all work for the district? Tell you what, if you hate it so much, give me back my tax dollars. I am sure there is someone that will take your job, and possible look at it with a brighter outlook.

SCATS said...

To 4:25AM ~~ A-PAC was "sold" to the community along with a laundry list of other promises by an administration that snookered everyone. A-PAC wasn't built on a contingency budget, but using a bond issue.

GCSD can do ANYTHING they want once those lights go up, even a carnival is possible.

Your knowledge of what goes on at Apollo's third floor leaves much to be desired ;)

SCATS said...

To 5:46AM ~~ And police cars with lights & sirens??

To 9:31AM ~~ Do you realize that Greece's high schools were built decades ago, long before there was ever talk of adding lights, even in those other districts? Many longtime homeowners still reside in some of those neighborhoods bordering Greece schools, so telling them to move to Hamlin seems more than a little bit cold. Those people paid for the school YOUR kid attends!

By the way, you can hear the noise from those fields for quite a distance. It doesn't remain in an isolated area.

Anonymous said...

To all those who think sports can only be played on a lighted field:
What is the advantage to sports or education by having them? Don't the same benefits from sports participation come from daylight games?
I agree that we need extra-curricular activities like sports, plays, concerts, but we have those now, without lighted fields.Where's the benefit?

SCATS said...

To 3:13PM ~~ There is NO ADVANTAGE! Just like schools-of-choice, it's little more than a status symbol for parents who like putting their noses up into the air.

Anonymous said...

I almost drowned the last time that it rained hard.
-A

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Scats, my point exactly.

Anonymous said...

BYOFL: Bring Your Own Flash Lights. Problem solved. You're welcome!

Anonymous said...

In the absence of anyone listing a benefit of a lighted field over the existing sports participation option (Saturday afternoon), I move the discussion be closed.
Enough light (no pun intended) has been shed on this subject.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they are turning the lights off in the Performing Arts Center to be eco-green as they are with the sports field. *sighs* and I had hopes that my son would be a ballerina!

SCATS said...

To 5:30AM ~~ Your son will be a ballerina even in the dark, if he's a true ballerina ;)