Sunday, September 05, 2010

Skewed Priorities ...

   
Greece Central School District classes don't begin until Thursday (one of the last districts to open in Monroe County), but all three Greece high school football teams have already played games.
   

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is interesting how we show our independence and what that demonstration says about us.
The state tells us when Regents Tests will be given, so that's the end of the school year; the Section V Athletics agreements tell us when sports will start, so that starts the football season.
WE decode when to start school, and we choose to start later that many schools. Many districts, in other areas, start a week or more earlier than Greece. I agree with you, SCATS, that speaks volumes about our education priority!

Anonymous said...

But don't we all have to have the same minimum number of school days for the students? Do these earlier starters have more days in class? Or are we providing fewer days of class as part of a bargain with the teachers union to make the per day rate of pay higher?

SCATS said...

To 11:13AM ~~ Yes, all districts have to attend for a minimum number of days as prescribed by NYSED. However, last year BOE member Gale O'Toole brought up the fact that Greece attends school for the least number of days AND Greece has the shortest school day in Monroe County.

It all adds up said...

Fewest instructional days +
Shortest instructional day +
Low standardized test scores =
Lowest paid teachers in the county

Right?

SCATS said...

To 12:15PM ~~ Nope. At the very least, they make much more than parochial/private school teachers.

I don't have and have not heard anyone mention that any comparison of pay among public school district teachers in Monroe County has been made. If you know someplace where that info is available, please let us know. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

SCATS
Under the current contract, not the expected new one. The contract the Greece teachers have in place, when they say they have gone four years without a contract, they have a salary scale that gets them to maxium salary in 23 years. That is faster than any other teacher contract in Monroe County.

We can thank Dr. Waltz for that. It was common to get to max. in 35yrs. then 32 yrs and then 30yrs. Most districts are at 30yrs. Steve agreed and the BOE at that signed the GTA so they reach max in 23 years. A teacher starting at age 21 will be at max salary at age 44 and every year there after until retirement. I know of NO other school district teacher contract that has that provision.

Max, in Greece I think is at $87,500. Each teacher in Greece who in not at max. got an index raise of approx. 3-4% each year with "no" contract. Each teacher at max got no raise but got to max, thus thousands of dollars more each year, with "no" contract.

Enjoy

Doug

SCATS said...

To Doug ~~ Thanks for clearing up 12:15PM's misperception :) I was hoping you'd have the data and you didn't disappoint.

Anonymous said...

Just want to put out for public consumption that a teacher in the Rochester City School District can max out at $105,631. Read into that what you will...

Anonymous said...

And a "teacher" in Rochester, who had not picked up a piece of chalk in many,many years (because he was the union president) retired at the max salary and max benefits.
Read into that what you will...
Does Greece allow the teacher union president to collect full salary and benefits without being reimbursed by the union?

SCATS said...

To 8:33PM ~~ My understanding is that something close to that is coming soon via a new contract with more "release time." Nice job huh?

Anonymous said...

More release time for union members *leaders* = watch those test scores soar.

Anonymous said...

Max teacher salary in Greece is 83,000.

SCATS said...

To 9:16AM ~~ That's a boatload of cash for a job that's 185 or so 6 - 7 hour days. And please don't bother to tell me about how much extra work teachers do. They certainly have no corner on that market!

Anonymous said...

My figures show $83,000 per year at 185 days at 7 hours per day to be $64 per hour PLUS a benefit package like no one I know.

Anonymous said...

When there are board members with spouses who are district employees those board members have something to directly gain or lose with their vote. I fail to see how this is not a direct conflict of interest and at the very least questionable ethics. Full union release time is a practice whose time has come and gone. Other town bargaining units do not have this provision. Don Palozzi is a double dipper who should be called out on this we cannot afford it any more.

Anonymous said...

I forgot to clarify Palozzi is the GTA business agent or president. He is also not a resident of our town last time I checked so he has no interest how much we pay in school taxes. His only interest is more of our money for his members . Like Teachers union hero and national union leader Shanker said, I will advocate for students when they begin to pay union dues. Palozzi is no different

Anonymous said...

SCATS

The GTA Pres. is released at least 50% of the time. A secondary teacher schedule is five teaching periods. The GTA Pres usually teaches two periods with no supervision period. Of course he gets full salary and benefits from Greece Central.

He also has at least two asst. maybe three with paid released time.

This issue has also been a "bug" with me. Why should the taxpayer pay full salary/benefits to have someone conduct union business including negotiations with the district for the teachers.

Why shouldn't union members pay the salary for union officiers with their own dues?

Enjoy

Doug

SCATS said...

Doug ~~ I don't know how it breaks down into percentages. I think he gets .8 of an EFT currently. I'm hearing he will have all of his time on "release" in the new contract.