Tuesday, September 28, 2010

GTA Votes To Approve New Contract* With The Greece Central School District

  
Anonymous said...
F.Y.I The teachers approved the new contract.   9/28/2010 8:27 PM

Anonymous said...
Scats... I have suppported teachers on this blog for many months. I will no longer do that. You are right. Most teachers in this district must be incompetent. For them to vote for this contract is appalling. The district won. The district will now save thousands per teacher. This contract was approved by the young and dumb new teachers in this district. Thank God I don't have a child attending this District. These "teachers" are inept. If they can't look at simple math for the amount of money they just lost over the course of their entire life, THEN how can they teach your children basic life skills. They just got a $500 raise to lose $3500 in medical coverage/year for the rest of their life.

Scats...I will never doubt you again. You were right. Greece residents should have great concerns over their child's future education.   9/28/2010 9:46 PM
 
* Contract still must be approved by Board of Education vote as a formality.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

And the dumbing down of America continues.......

Anonymous said...

When/how will we know the facts of the contract contents? I hope we get more than press release informtion.

SCATS said...

To 7:57AM ~~ As soon as the BOE formally votes on the agreement, it will be available under FOIL.

Charlie Hubbard said...

If the board has any integrety left they will have the details available to the public today.
We are talking about something that has been over 4 years getting done.
I have every reason to believe the community and our kids have been 'had' again - prove me wrong.

Remember item 17/page 30 of the Comptrollers audit and the boards acceptance of that audit and the recommendation within (April 2008)

show "the benefit to the district" of any new contract.

The board convieniently avoided this with the last two contracts since the audit.

The bottom line is - if anyone tells you the terms cannot be made public NOW - don't buy a used car from that person.

SCATS said...

To Charlie ~~ Re: "If the board has any integrety left they will have the details available to the public today."

That's a very big "if!"

SCATS said...

Word is that the GTA contract was approved by under 50 votes. Sounds like there is a division, possibly between younger and older members. Could get interesting.

Anonymous said...

Scats.. your facts are wrong again. It was not 50 votes. It was 80 votes. And this is how you divide the community by your inaccuracy of the facts (sarcasm...Heavy sarcasm)

SCATS said...

To 3:21PM ~~ Assuming you are correct (which I'm not) a difference of 30 votes among 1100 teachers makes little difference.

I'm big on division. I can even do it on paper :)

By the way, I was right about Achramovitch getting this "deal" with GTA ;)

Anonymous said...

You do realize that Acromovitch sold you down the river, with the latest court case, right?????

Anonymous said...

Do the great teachers and the Hacks get a $500 raise ? Give the great teachers a $800 raise and send the Hacks packing . Hey ! I just solved all of GCSD problems .
" A Hack is a teacher that wants to work in Greece because we pay the most and expect the least."

Anonymous said...

Can someone clarify how the Teachers lose $3500 a year (meaning the district saves this amount)?

If that is true - I'm guessing the only way the Teachers approved it was they were not informed of this by their "leadership".

SCATS said...

To 6:12PM ~~ Of course he did, but try to get the BOE to hear that. I dare ya ;)

To 6:41PM ~~ My understanding is that they must switch to some sort of a lesser insurance plan, thereby they forfeit $3500 in benefits but gain $500 as a raise.

Could it be that the younger teachers learned math in Greece under Walts??

Anonymous said...

Can we please stop acting like teachers don't normally get raises.
They get a raise each and every year. They like to call it "step increases", but it's raise.
Boo hoo for the poor teachers having to pay some lore for health care, welcome to the real world. Well, not really. I'm sure they still get there 100 days of sick time and summers off and paid time to prepare and work day that is significantly shorter than working people.
I can't stand another teacher complaining about getting paid better than most their students' parents while working 2/3 off the time.
Be happy that you can still retire at 55 and collect a pension for the rest of your life. The rest is will keep working till we're 80 to pay for your retirement.
I think the GTA should have given back. Forgone any raise, picked up more of their healthcare and relaxed some of their ridiculous "work rules".
The community would have jumped for joy, heck maybe we would have worn GTA T-SHIRTS to help them celebrate.

But PLEASE stop complaining about having to accept a little bit what the general public has been taking for years!

Anonymous said...

Hey Charlie,
The GTA leadership gets more release time

Anonymous said...

Scats you ^&%$#/! about the teachers wanting too much, but then question why they settled for "so little?"

Please explain!

ps Meg stills has a job.....in a forward thinking community... RCSD still has Dr. Dyce-Faucet...and Greece has yet ANOTHER Iterim.....

Anonymous said...

If teachers switch to the slightly less expensive insurance then they save a bit of money and pocket the raise. If they keep the current insurance that most of them have then most of their raise goes into paying the difference in premiums.

Losing $3500 in coverage is absolute nonsense.

Anonymous said...

They don't forfeit anything in benefits. The cost depends on what kind of services you use. The cost of the current health insurance was going up every year. Yes, there is a change in coverage, but the teachers still have excellent coverage! They are not as dumb as you would like to think.

SCATS said...

To 7:26PM ~~ Where I did question it? I just reread my remarks on this thread and can't find that part.

Now that YOU brought it up for questioning, I'd like to know: what made this agreement worth so many years of engagement in a standoff with the district? I don't see it.

SCATS said...

To 7:34PM & 7:41PM ~~ Did you two get lost and land here after debating ad naseum about Athena's forfeited games? LOL

If the teachers aren't forfeiting anything, then why was the vote so close?? What caused this split?

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 7:22
If what you say is true then we know the union is still in charge and running the show.
After you finish dinner with the board - stop over.

Anonymous said...

Charlie,
Would love to chat!!!! You have no idea how much information I have and can provide to you. I could save the District, literally millions, in John Rivers claim! The District would actually need to view me as a help not a hinderance.

Charlie Hubbard said...

to 10:09
Wouldn't it be nice if you could have a board member you could TRUST to talk to, for that matter 'anyone' in the chain of command you could TRUST.

chubbard005@rochester.rr.com
775-6015

Anonymous said...

to 7:34 pm
you obviously are a teacher or Greece graduate because you can't do simple math. If you go from a $11,000 insurance to a $7,500 insurance then you are losing coverage which in turn cost you money. In order to maintain that current level of coverage at $11,000 then you have to make up the difference. That difference is $3,500. That seems to be a "little" more than the $500 raise that you are receiving. Where I went to school they call that a loss.

The future of Greece doesn't look too bright.

Anonymous said...

Since teachers pay 10% of their insurance then a $3,500 decrease in the cost of the plan will save them $350. A change in plan usually means a change in copays not coverage. When my company changed plans- which I had no say in- it went from a $15 copay to a $20 copay for doctors.

Anonymous said...

$500 raise????????

And the moon is made of green cheese.