Saturday, September 11, 2010

Gov. Christie (NJ) Responds To Teacher

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mr. Christie speaks in terms and in a language that our district (and apparently districts in NJ) will never understand. He starts by using truth, honesty and reality which in and of itself is over the heads of the GTA. I wonder what Mr. Christie would say to a band intstructor making 83k for working 188 days a year? I know, I know, it's all about the kids!

Anonymous said...

This should be required viewing for every politician and school board member in our state followed by a class in growing a backbone.

Anonymous said...

I love how he calls out for her behavior during his speaking. That's awsome.

Anonymous said...

You see NY isn't so bad after all. NY pays 9% less than NJ for health care. Everyone needs to stop complaining and realize that the grass is greener on the other side.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a very reasonable request by the Gov. But why is one group of people responsible for fixing the enire states problem? Why can't everyone be taxed 1/10 of a percent more? That woould solve evryones problem!!

Anonymous said...

How refreshing to hear someone in power not be afraid to say this. Our governor has been making cuts but does not stand up to the unions vocally. And from what this governor says there was a veiled threat on his life in an email from the head of the Bergen County Education Association union head. Why didn't that make national news?
And what was that about a billion that Obama gave NJ and took away? Did NY ever get that?

Mr. Anti GTA said...

Someone should show this to GTA.

Anonymous said...

Raising everyone's taxes doesn't sound like a sustainable solution to me. How about living within your budget? That is what every family needs to do.
Raising taxes seems so easy, yet it is a downward spiral, circling the drain. Eventually taxes in one location get so out of line that people leave. What then? Raise the remaining taxpayers' load to cover hose losses?

Anonymous said...

10:21, your right, it doesn't fix anything in the long term. The bottom line is that a similar ("What Are You Doing To Help Fix This") speech should be given in relation to the (growing) segment of our population that contributes nothing except more mouths they can't afford to feed.

9:16, you mentioned, "But why is one group of people responsible for fixing the enire states problem?" To that I would say that while it may not seem fair, starting with the teachers (salaries/benefits) in districts that continue to spiral downward in performance is a good place to start. Ather reason to look in the direction of teachers is because the deal they got right now is beyond comprehension. Make no mistake about it, it's not their fault they got it so good, that blame lies on those that gave it to them. And before you claim that it's not so great to be a teacher, refer to the article in the D&C last year that outlined the incredible number of qualified people trying to get those positions, but can't. Simply put, it's a buyers market and as such the buyers should never over pay.

Anonymous said...

To 4:35...
It is still not their problem to fix. For most it is not the fault of the teachers that their districts are spiraling downward for performance. I would think that at least 95% of all the problems with this is the families that these kids come from. They don't care. They are the filth of society that will continue to plague this great Nation and Greece is knee deep in it!!

SCATS said...

To 5:08PM ~~ 95%? Really!?!? What percentage of the trouble comes from the image in the mirror?

Your argument might start to become believable IF we were to ever hear that any of the troubles with our nation's schools were due to the teachers. Of course, that will never happen, which is the hallmark of this dysfunctional system.

Along similar lines, I'd like to see teachers step up and appreciate those parents & students who are working hard to go to school, learn and do their best. But that also never happens. God forbid should a parent who is doing their job EVER EXPECT a teacher to do theirs better.

Anonymous said...

I guess I missed the GTA march calling for more family support/participation/better behaved students. If that's "95%" of the problem with student performance, and the GTA membership is really "for the kids", it seems that march would be taking place... like yesterday. Maybe I missed it?! The only thing I hear from the GTA is $$$.

Charlie Hubbard said...

What a breath of fresh air this govenor is - why? - because he speaks the truth.
Unfortunatly we have allot of people who can't handle the truth. They know who they are.

Honesty, integrity, and straight talk cannot be a 'part time' endevor.

An elected official looking out for the people who pay the bills (taxpayers) WOW.

Anonymous said...

Nice!!! This guy strikes me as someone who wouldn't declare a school safety "emergency" two days prior to school starting and shell out $125,000 of taxpayer funds behind their backs.

Anonymous said...

Well SCATS, why is that Churchville-Chili, Spencerport, Brockport, Penfield, Fairport, Pittsford Mendon don't have Grad rates like Greece (North Rochester) and Rochester City Schools? Must be that GCSD and City have "bad teachers". Why are the City teachers the highest paid in the region then? Is it "hazard pay"? Or are they doing the best that they can with what they have?

SCATS said...

To 3:58PM ~~ The Rochester City Board Of Education should be asked that question, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

To 8:12 pm...Sure GTA can march for better behaved kids. That will get them a lot. Kids that come from families that give a crap about them do better in school!!!!

Charlie... you are right about "Honesty, integrity, and straight talk cannot be a 'part time' endevor. (sic)" Unfortunately, as you well know, the BOE, GCSD Admin can't do it.

I have one question for Charlie and Scats. Can you name one honest DO administrator?

Anonymous said...

No Scats that is a question for you. I want your opinion.

SCATS said...

To 4:08PM ~~ Nope. I don't trust any of them and haven't for a very long time. But my skepticism goes far beyond the walls of DO and reaches into the individual schools. I'm not sure there are any truly trustworthy administrators in this town. Sad, isn't it?

SCATS said...

To 4:10PM ~~ I'm not sure RCSD teachers get the pay they do for either reason you cited. My suspicion is that the union has twisted the arm of the BOE repeatedly over the years.

I think Greece Central has SOME good teachers (i.e. a few), but I don't believe the majority of them are above mediocre. I also think we have too many that are barely older than the students they are teaching (inexperienced) and that contributes to our poor performance, too.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Scats...You are right. There are none. So my question is, how can a teacher do their job effectively when they are always looking over their shoulder because they can't trust their Administrators? They are expected to "toe the line" and not question anything, even if they are advocating for their students. It is happening right now. Administrators will make up lies and stop at nothing to save their own job. Sad, but true!

Anonymous said...

SCATS..thanks for your honesty. You do make some good points about the young teachers. Look at it this though, you are saving a bunch on money in salary;)

SCATS said...

To 4:23PM ~~ The issue you bring up here is one that YOUR UNION LEADERSHIP NEEDS TO ADDRESS! Isn't that what you pay dues for? What is your leader doing to change things for the better? Aside from gripe about a contract, I've heard nothing.

By the way, the former Rochester Mayor Johnson & former Supts. Rivera & Janey contributed to the mess in city schools. I believe the current Mayor & Supt. are the best thing to happen to that district in decades.

SCATS said...

To 4:27PM ~~ I'm not sure your statement is true in that school/student performance has fallen so much we've added numerous extra staff to try to help the increased numbers of poorly performing students. It's a vicious cycle.

Anonymous said...

"Sure GTA can march for better behaved kids"

...Again, tell when they actually march on this issue, rather than money, benefits, and more money.

Anonymous said...

"Why are the City teachers the highest paid in the region then?"

...3:58, What part of supply and demand don't you understand? They are paid that much, in part, because there are FAR less qualified perspective teachers seeking those positions. Another reason is so that those teachers already employed don't jump ship to "whiter" pastures. Can you say the same about Greece? Of course not! So then I ask why are we paying them so much in Greece, where qualified perspective teachers are waiting in droves, trying to get even a foot in the door here?