Sunday, May 16, 2010

Choose Very Carefully On Tuesday

     
Farmer      Grinnan       O'Connor

     O'Toole        7.6%      No              

    Yes           Mack         Smith        

 Race            Bus purchases     
               $195 million    No

Vote NO on the budget
Vote NO on the bus proposition
Pull Levers 5, 6 & 7   
Race, Grinnan & O'Toole
 

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do any of the candidates favor hiring an interim super as we continue to look for a more suitable candidate?

Anonymous said...

Tracey Farmer admits she sent her kids to city schools .....THEN MOVED BACK TO GREECE! Why would anyone vote for her knowing that Greece schools weren't good enough for her kids? Maybe she wanted to avoid our high taxes, lousy outcomes and political school board. But city schools??? OMG!

Anonymous said...

The SCATS curse is now officially cast. The budget and propositions will pass for sure.

SCATS said...

To 9:30AM ~~ What took you so long? I've been awaiting your barb with bated breath!

By the way, I have NOT predicted an outcome. I've only suggested how to cast your votes.

Anonymous said...

What was the original wording of the proposition that approved the reserve fund for buses? When was that originally approved?
We are now being asked to approve spending from that reserve. What was the probable term of that reserve fund? In other words when was that reserve's expiration date? Reserves are not infinite. It may be longer than the 5 years it was set up for. What was the maximum amount of that reserve and where have the funds come from that are supposedly in that reserve fund?
It is entirely possible that they are asking us to approve spending from a reserve that is expired with funds that were deposited into the fund illegally. Or we are asked to approve spending from a fund that is empty and we are only approving more money being levied to just outright buy buses.

SCATS said...

To 9:59AM ~~ You asked some great questions. I'll see if I can get an answer.

SCATS said...

To 9:59AM ~~ I asked a BOE member who responded with info pulled from BoardDocs. Here's most of the answers you sought:

1)What was the original wording of the proposition that approved the reserve fund for buses?
April 1, 2008 Boe meeting:
Shall the following resolutions be adopted:
RESOLVED, that the Board of Education of the Greece Central School District, Monroe County, New York be authorized during the school year 2008-2009 to budget and expend the amount of $194,075,636 and levy the necessary tax therefore.
Proposition 1- Building Capital Reserve Fund .... (removed by SCATS due to space)

Proposition 2- Bus Purchase Reserve Fund
Resolved that the Board of Education of the Greece Central School District is hereby authorized to establish a Capital Reserve Fund pursuant to Section 3651 of the Education Law (to be known as the “Bus Purchase Reserve Fund”), with the purpose of such fund being to finance the purchase of school buses, the ultimate amount of such fund to be $7,000,000, plus earnings thereon, the probable term of such fund to be 7 years, but such fund shall continue in existence until liquidated in accordance with the Education Law or until the funds are exhausted, and the sources from which the funds shall be obtained for such Reserve are (i) an initial deposit of up to $1,500,000, and (ii) amounts from budgetary appropriations from time to time, and (iii) unappropriated fund balance made available by the Board of Education from time to time, and (iv) New York State Aid received on bus purchases and made available by the Board of Education from time to time

2)When was that originally approved?
Approved by BOE 4/1/08, approved by voters 5/20/08
3)We are now being asked to approve spending from that reserve. What was the probable term of that reserve fund?
7 years.

SCATS said...

CONTINUED ...

4)In other words when was that reserve's expiration date? Reserves are not infinite. It may be longer than the 5 years it was set up for. See above
5)What was the maximum amount of that reserve and where have the funds come from that are supposedly in that reserve fund? 

7 mil. Year end fund balances. None will go in this year.
6)It is entirely possible that they are asking us to approve spending from a reserve that is expired with funds that were deposited into the fund illegally.
See above

8)Or we are asked to approve spending from a fund that is empty and we are only approving more money being levied to just outright buy buses.
In June of 08 and 09 the board approved moving not more than 1.5 mil to the bus reserve fund from year end fund balance. By NYS Ed law the board must take this action prior to actually knowing the exact amount of the year end balance so the language is - not to exceed- . The amount actually funded over the two years was 2.07mil

Anonymous said...

SCATs I am surprised, vote for Beth Race -- wasn't she one of the parents screaming to save West Ridge???? Gail O'Toole, didn't her kids enjoy all the benefits of Odyssey???? Doesn't sound like any cost savings will happen with them. They will just request "more data" and never make any decisions. The current board majority can't get anything done, maybe a change would be good!

SCATS said...

To 12:53PM ~~ Job 1 is to get rid of Achramovitch. If the Boily Bunch get elected, our troubles will be with 12% levy hikes NEXT YEAR!

Anonymous said...

By the way, Roger Boily doesn't have the board majority right now, so stop laying the budget blame at his feet. That you can lay at 5 other members who can't make a decision on what to cut because they need more data.

SCATS said...

To 12:57PM ~~ Boily was in fact the FIFTH VOTE in support of the budget. He said he "wasn't sure the Greece community could not afford a 7.6% levy increase."

Anonymous said...

If the budget passes, Boily and Co. will take it as a sign that we can spend even more doing even less than we're already doing. I pray Greece residents go to the polls and vote no tomorrow. I might have to move otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Thank you scats for the answers. So there is money in that account and its term will be 7 years which means that we cannot deposit any more money into it after 2013. The account should be used by that date also. We cannot deposit funds from the levy into the fund and spend in that same fiscal year. So they are asking us to let them spend funds that are already in the fund from a previous fiscal year?
BTW Jeff those funds were not put in the fund by the tooth fairy. They came from money paid by taxpayers.
And also Jeff....when we get the percent back from the state, you know darn well that money does not go back into the reserve. If it did the amount in there would never go down and we know that won't happen. Never did and never will. That money will disappear into a poof and we will be taxed again to fill the reserve to its ultimate amount.
And after 2013 the reserve fund will expire and they will have to create another one. We better keep on top of that.
It is a pity that the citizens have to monitor the financial activities of the board and administration as they try to sift items through cracks and loopholes.

SCATS said...

To 1:41PM ~~ You're welcome. I agree that it's shameful that the taxpayers must monitor the keepers of the district's cash. Trust is a word that no one uses in Greece govt.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we should make sure we don't let them put anymore money into that fund. They can transfer money into the fund sideways from our supposed "surplus" . So it is important to get an honest superintendent and board.

SCATS said...

To 2:10PM ~~ While an honest supt. is a great idea, one person can't make a dysfunctional system work. It's just like getting an honest police chief, but keeping the head of the snake ... and several of the previous regime's sidekicks. That lone person will either leave in defeat & disgust or become part of the dysfunction.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that we the taxpayers can't escape a whopping big school tax increase even if we defeat it this year. Between increased assessments and increased levies, even a contingent budget will cause sticker shock. Time to move.

Anonymous said...

Just got my expensive glossy mailing for Jeff Smith and crew. Roger went all out on this mailing.
Check your caller ID when you get the boiler room phone calls endorsing this crew tonight and tomorrow. See if it matches any numbers from either town hall or Republican headquarters.

Anonymous said...

Scats:Heads up-just heard on the news Leroy Superimtemdemt has stepped down for personal reasons.

She is a former Apollo principal, could she be the replacement for Steve A.?

It seems our other two finalists each had issues.

What do you think?

SCATS said...

To 5:11PM ~~ I suppose anything is possible, BUT did she apply before GCSD's "deadline?" Here's what WHEC-TV reported:

The Le Roy School District has a new interim superintendent following the resignation of Cindy Herzog, who had been on the job for three years.

Herzog cited family and personal reasons for her decision to step down. David Deloria has taken over on an interim basis.

SCATS said...

To 1:41PM ~~ Some additional info about the Bus Reserve fund that you may find interesting (quoted from my email):

" ... I think the term was for 7 years and its original purpose was to establish a reserve to replace a large procurement of buses made (I recall the number to be about 75 buses) a few years back when the "useful life" (about 10 years) of that purchase was approaching.

I can tell you with certainty that the reserve period has NOT been exceeded. I can tell you that the amount(s) deposited in the reserve fund were authorized by resolution of the BOE. ( I recall that we made two deposits into the fund) Education Law 3651 has been followed to the letter. This would be the first withdrawal of funds (if voters approve) from this specific reserve. Withdrawals can NOT be made without voter approval.

The proposition is authorizing (if passed) a withdrawal from the reserve to cover the "local" cost of the buses. Bonds will be issued for the remainder. The bonds will be paid off (with interest) by the state aid formula which delivers the money to the district over a period of years. This will insure that the tax levy in subsequent years will not have to be raised to cover the balance of the bus purchase ... "

Anonymous said...

Is the proposition also authorizing them to procure the bonds which will have to be paid off? Or can they do that on their own without voter approval? Or can they only purchase the buses if there is not a contingency budget ? Contingency budgets do not allow any purchases unless they relate to an unsafe situation like a floor that might break. Not buses.
So if that proposition is not just for drawing funds from the reserve, it is worded in a deceptive manner.
And Jeff might be wrong about the state reimbursement if the money is from a bond. The state reimburses for actual spending by the district not from credit offered in a bond form. We have to pay off the bonds before we get the money from the state. And the state has been a little reluctant to pay taxpayers and school districts money on time if at all. So don't bank on the state.

Anonymous said...

I am curious how do we know that the busses will be paid off by the state when the state is so broke and has passed no budget?